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Tim Thomas is a dope: It's a scientific fact.

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For me it has nothing to do with politics. Guys screw their careers up all the time. Wade Redden did it by signing for too much money, Jeff Finger did it for (being no good) and going to Toronto, Dipietro did it by not committing (even a little bit) to good training habits.

Every one of them got made fun of relentlessly on this forum and every other forum. Timmy is not exempt from being clowned on just because he was better than they were.

Two things. First, you're right. Guys screw up and can be ridiculed for it. Second, someone on the previous page brought up a Fox News study in a childish attempt to belittle Thomas (wasn't you, I know), so some of the hate has to do with politics. I should have qualified that in my previous post.

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So Wade Redden made too much money? Honestly, I don't get it.

Tim Thomas can make $3.75 Million. Without checking, I'm going to guess that that's probably close to, or is, the highest amount of money a 39-year old free-agent goalie has ever signed for.

What did he mismanage? Obviously his image, right?

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If he was the best lawyer at the best law firm in the country, and then one year later he was at one of the worst law firms making half as much money, EVERYBODY would agree that he had mismanaged his career.

Whether it was worth it or not, to become a better father, is between God and Timmy. But the career implications of it are pretty much not debatable.

I absolutely disagree with this statement. I'm an attorney and know quite a few attorney's who have left bigger, more prestigious firms to go to smaller firms or even to go into solo practice. They generally make less than half the money they did and almost all of them think it was a wonderful career move. There is motivation behind career choices that goes well beyond just the biggest/most prestigious/best firms and salary. There are time issues, pressure issues, expectation issues, area of practice issues and many others.

Tim may like less pressure, he may like Florida better than Massachusetts, who knows what else but all of those can factor into his career choices.

Additionally, you keep saying:

He currently plays for a garbage team for half the money he did in his last full NHL season.

While technically this might be true, it is at best misleading. His last full NHL season he made $5M this year his salary is $2.5M but he has $1.25M in bonuses, which are easier bonuses everyone seems to think he will easily meet (similar to the little doubt DeKeyser would reach his bonuses). With his bonuses he would be getting 75% of what he made his last full NHL season. Additionally, the 2012-2013 season that he sat out he was supposed to make $3M. Tim should be making $750k (20%) MORE than that this year. Also, you cannot over look the huge tax saving he is getting being in an income tax free state as opposed to a state that taxes income at 5.3%.

He may really like where his career is, he is making a lot of money, playing with very little pressure, warm climate. He may have made a perfect career choice for himself.

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Thomas goes a little Hextall on a Bruins player who was crashing the net at the end of the game where Boston was winning 6-2.

At first it didn't look like much, but 38 seconds in it looks like a pretty good slash to Soderberg's neck. I don't know that I blame him though. Soderberg's stick was high on Thomas too.

It sounds like the guy's maybe not the best teammate, but he's a very good goalie and a competitor. I loved his hit on Sedin from the Cup Finals.

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I absolutely disagree with this statement. I'm an attorney and know quite a few attorney's who have left bigger, more prestigious firms to go to smaller firms or even to go into solo practice. They generally make less than half the money they did and almost all of them think it was a wonderful career move. There is motivation behind career choices that goes well beyond just the biggest/most prestigious/best firms and salary. There are time issues, pressure issues, expectation issues, area of practice issues and many others.

Tim may like less pressure, he may like Florida better than Massachusetts, who knows what else but all of those can factor into his career choices.

Additionally, you keep saying:

While technically this might be true, it is at best misleading. His last full NHL season he made $5M this year his salary is $2.5M but he has $1.25M in bonuses, which are easier bonuses everyone seems to think he will easily meet (similar to the little doubt DeKeyser would reach his bonuses). With his bonuses he would be getting 75% of what he made his last full NHL season. Additionally, the 2012-2013 season that he sat out he was supposed to make $3M. Tim should be making $750k (20%) MORE than that this year. Also, you cannot over look the huge tax saving he is getting being in an income tax free state as opposed to a state that taxes income at 5.3%.

He may really like where his career is, he is making a lot of money, playing with very little pressure, warm climate. He may have made a perfect career choice for himself.

Fair enough, all good points.

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