In a town where everybody piles on the goalie no matter how good they are, and you want to bring Luongo, a PROVEN HEADCASE to this town? That's funny. You cannot win with Luongo. Last year's vancouver team was STACKED and Luongo cost them, almost single handedly cost them their chicago series. No way. He's not a proven goalie, and I can't see any team willing to pay more than 5 mil for him...
We have our number 1 goalie, who doesn't appear to be a headcase thus far.
Is he not killing penalties right now because of his injury or because of his age/speed? Becuase, if he's utilized less and less, he has to take a major discount to come back. The last thing the Wings want to do is pull a Pistons and hold onto players too long.
I love Lidstrom, I am so happy we got to watch him for 20 years, but it's a business and you are a commodity. And when you get used up, we move on. It's cold and harsh, but it's a fact in sports. I wouldn't mind him coming back, but he can't be a reason that we can't make the cap because we want to go and get an elite young, fast and talented player. That would hinder the progress of this team. I think with every year, he'll slow down rapidly, so it's tough to keep him for 5-7 mil in my view.
On the news they just showed the replay of the game winner...how DUMB did our team look? My God. 3 players bite hook line and sinker, including the goalie. And it leaves 2, not 1, but TWO predators wide open all day to put the puck in the gaping net.
Pathetic breakdown. It's those breakdowns that killed us this series.
What a dejecting feeling. All this talent and they can't muster more than 1 goal in a must win game.
You have to give the preds all the credit. All night they were SOLID defensively. They didn't even need Rinne to stand on his head. Most of the shots he stopped were easy saves, and we couldn't bury rebounds. Very very frustrating.
Howard isn't the problem, we can't score more than 1 goal or 2 goals a game. It's ridiculous.
I'm frustrated with the complete defensive breakdown on that game winner, where 3 players went for Kline INCLUDING howard. Howard looked stupid on that play. But whatever.
I'm tired of hearing the wings 'try to stay positive'. WIN THE DAMN GAME, stop talking!
Whatever. We need some size and we need SPEED. We have all the talent in the world, but we're too slow and the punishment in the playoffs wears us down.
See why do you pass it there when you have CENTER ICE position? You pass it off to a guy along the boards...at least keep going straight or open the ice up more. Wings been doing this a lot in the last 3 games. For god's sake stop playing the game along the boards.
You know what, I want the refs to stay out of it. I want the games to be high scoring and to have fighting in them. The more the merrier. This series without a doubt has been the most exciting playoff series in a long, long time. The NHL should model itself after this kind of hockey. Fans would come back to watching it. The Vancouver/LA game was boring as F*ck...and it ended 1-0.
Nobody wants to watch 1-0, 2-0 games...and the goals that go in are garbage, grinder goals. The super star players in the league are getting shut down and mucked up by this crap playoff hockey and it's 3rd/4th line garbage goals winning games.
The league doesn't get it. AT ALL.
The players did fine policing themselves, but now with the meddling of the league management thinking they can do better than the players, we get this garbage. Players running at stars who aren't able to fight, the enforcers are removed, there's no fear that a player like Probert is going to come off the bench and beat your ass for running at Crosby, or Datsyuk, or whatever.
Because our Defensef****** sucks man. Pretty simple really.
What do you want the kid to do? You cant get a shutout every game.
Our D is atrocious in our own end and has been for years. You realize that every goalie that has ever played here gets s*** on all the time? Think about it.
Just since 2000. Osgood Hasek, Legacy, Cujo, Howard, McDonald, Conklin. All those guys truly suck right?
Cmon man call it the way it is, our D is terrible. Last year we had Lids and a one legged Rafalski back there. And this year we have a broke Lids and Ianf****** White. LMAO yup its the goalie.
You hit the nail on the head. Remember Curtis Joseph ran out of town because he lost a bunch of 2-1 games? I think fans that look at it that way are just not that knowledgeable. You have to look at the shots the wings got on goal and realize that it wasn't Rinne that stole this game, and it wasn't Howard that lost this game. The wings mustered 1 goal this game, and it was in a moment of desperation. The goal by Datsyuk was a GIFT...granted, it took that skilled player to get it, but it was a gift mistake from the Preds. Let's be honest here.
I've been bitching about our defensive play for months, and it shows a lot more in the playoffs when the opponent is good, is focused only on playing you, and has size and speed to exploit your holes. When you have defensive breakdowns, you'll pay, and the wings have. It's my opinion that if the preds finish their great opportunities in game 2, we're down 3 games to NOTHING people!
We should actually be fortunate to be down only 1 game.
I keep complaining about this wings team, but it may be that they just don't have an answer this year for the speed and size they're playing against. The preds can't out 'skill' us, but they can out hustle us, out hit us, and they're hungrier. Those 3 things can trump skill. Look at the Preds forecheck. TENACIOUS!
It's just so frustrating that we as fans watch this team get away with a lack of speed because they have skill during the regular season. Then the palyoffs come, the game gets tighter, faster, and we have a lack of desire until we need to have the desire because we are down in the game. We don't have speed, and we don't have size on this team.
I was never an advocate for having to be tough and big, but I think that's the way the league wants it to win a cup. That's how the games are called now. If you don't have size and you don't have speed, you get beat. There's no protection for your star players so everybody runs at the star players today.
This is the league's doing, the bureaucracy, the brass thinking they can fix it, when the players had it under control just fine. Anybody that works for a big corporation knows how management loves to interfere with stuff. Well, they usually screw it up worse than it was...
You don't have to be an NHL player to realize by watching the games that that's the Preds game plan. pay attention. The wings have been trying to get that done for 3 games now and it's almost never there. There in the regular season, not in the playoffs.
Kronwall, Stuart, Ericsson, Quincey are all strong on the puck. Lidstrom is shifty and has great balance with the puck. White is neither string or weak on the puck.
I'd expect us to look much better in front of our own net the next two games on ice that isn't made from gluing refrigerator ice cubes together.
NHLRules is RIGHT. We are weak on the puck in our zone. What in the world is going on? We all of a sudden cannot clear the puck against a Nashville Preds team with, I'm sorry to say, mostly no-name players? Some have some respect, but they don't have Crosby's or Sedins, or even Doans on that team.
COME ON guys. Our defense is hanging on by a thread. And I still don't get it how we are giving up odd man rushes when we are supposed to be shutting the game down late in the 3rd.
I'm telling you, we should be thanking God WE aren't down 2 games in this series. The preds get the puck on their stick in that first period and they are up by 1-2 goals early, and if they finish at all in the 3rd, we likely have a game stolen from us.
I think the wings will play better at home, and God I hope so. Blown defensive assignments, inability to clear the puck, move it from the forecheck, these are real problems. If we were playing a SJ team, Chicago, St. Louis, etc, and played defense like this we'd be getting killed.
I have never been one to say "oh we need an enforcer, we need more size and hitting", but I think as this salary cap era goes on, that's exactly what the championship teams will be built on. It's sad. Who wants to watch 4 rounds of the crap we watched last night? I want to see star power on the ice. I don't want to see games grind for 60 minutes and the last flukey goal wins. That's boring. But that's exactly what this league is now.
The talent is spread out, and now its' about who has the better 3 and 4 lines. Look at what we were hoping for...HELM to come back and suddenly make this team the TEAM to beat. Come on. In the past a 3rd or 4th line player goes out and its no big deal. Today if one player is out it's a very big deal, no matter where it is in the lineup.
I'm losing interest in the NHL. I will always love the Wings, but my enthusiasm has waned since the salary cap.
Maybe its because we were spoiled, but I don't think so. I don't like the brand of hockey. On the surface it seems more exciting, but for the wrong reasons. Refs call penalties in favor of the team down 4-1, so those leads are never safe. The top 2 lines on each team usually cancel each otehr out, so it comes down to a grind fest.
I hate it. I want to see more flow to games and the more talented team winning. Yesterday was a joke. We should have won 2-1 last night.
"I don't know how Orpik doesn't get more suspension time." and "I hope Philly rams Crosby and knocks him out of the playoffs."
I don't like Crosby, never have. No I am not jealous, since I think Datsyuk is a better player. Crosby is on his last leg anyways, and Bettman, who has thrown everything the NHL has to offer behind Crosby, knows it. So, they'll do their best to protect him.
But, once you start having concussions, you're very likely to have more. Crosby's career is already in jeopardy and it won't take a dirty hit to knock him out.
This is what the league wanted by changing the rules and bringing in the instigator rule. Nobody to blame but themselves...