Holland has not been sitting on his hands like you guys seem to believe. Most importantly, he brought in stellar additions with Brunner and Tootoo in the offseason after steadfastly trying to get Suter (who wanted a ludicrous contract and hasn't even propelled Minnesota to new heights).
Gustavvson is a serviceable back-up. Samuelsson had 31 points last year; it's not Holland's fault Samuelsson got hurt.
I can't help but feel like the Wings are still a piece or 2 away from a Cup-caliber team, but it's hard to truly confirm this when half of your team is actually from Grand Rapids (which have actually been a pleasant surprise) and nobody wants to trade to the team with the longest active playoff streak.
Holland knows what he's doing and he's not just standing pat.
Sometimes I wonder if the users on this board realize just how difficult Holland has it...
We don't have a clue what's going on behind the scenes, maybe Holland is trying to work out a deal with another team that would get us our valued top 6 guy who has size, grit and hands. We can't know for sure that he's just "standing pat". He's kept this Wings team competitive for 15 years and yet all I hear is how bad a job he's doing? This isn't as easy as a video game where you keep adding players until a deal works out, you have to realize that there has to be a seemingly equivalent trade and right now Detroit can't do anything that wouldn't result in weakening our team. Just because there's players on the trading block doesn't mean that they're going for a fair price. I sincerely believe that Holland has done the best he can with what he's been given to work with. There are times when you just can't make the ideal moves and/or signings.
Plus, I feel the need to point out that Holland said the return of these players is "like a trade deadline acquisition..." That tells me that he looks forward to seeing them play again, not that it's his replacement for a trade.
This was given a 5-game suspension and totaled $125,000 in fines back in the playoffs of 2007 (prior to suspension crackdowns). Both plays were malicious attacks against the opponent using the hockey stick as a weapon, although McLennan gave more of a slash than a spear. Personally, I think these two cases are fairy similar, but everyone else is free to make their own judgment. Nonetheless, if the league thinks the above penalty is worth 5 games, in the playoffs no less, than I don't think its reaching to see Franzen get one game, or maybe even a fine. Granted, there have been a few notable spears in recent memory which didn't result in suspensions, so if he gets nothing I wouldn't be surprised at all. I'm not about to try to predict the outcome of this situation.
I still stand by my belief that this type of behavior is a joke and should be punished. If Franzen wants retribution for a hit he doesn't agree with, then he needs to do it like a man and use his fists, face to face with his opponent. Otherwise get on with the game because frankly its embarrassing and a waste of time.
I disagree on them being similar, however I wouldn't be surprised if there was a fine and 1-game suspension either. I was perfectly fine with Franzen's actions, but I expect him to get reprimanded for it. If this was reversed this entire board would be fuming and calling for his head. On the bright side, at least Franzen showed some emotion.
A bunch of fairweather fans will leave the forums? *Check*
A bunch of fairweather fans will stop buying tickets? *Check*
A bunch of fairweather fans will start cheering for another NHL team? *Check*
A bunch of fairweather fans will come back when the Red Wings start contending for a cup again? *Check*
As a fan of the Red Wings, I am not concerned if the team makes the playoffs or not. I am going to support the team no matter what. Yes, I want to see a winner, but I don't put conditions on my support. I support Ferris State Hockey because they are my Alma Mater. They are playing .500 hockey this year, and there were years they were in the bottom half of the CCHA. Yet, when they had a great run like last year, it was great. Do I wish they could have a run like that every year? Yes, but its not realistic considering the size of the school, importance of hockey in the program, and their budget.
The Red Wings have given me 20+ years of great memories. I never even watched hockey before I went to college, and I fell in love with the sport when I went to my first game. That being said, if they don't make the playoffs this year, big freaking deal. The management will turn things around next season. You have to realize that there are 29 other teams that are going to be competing for a playoff spot, and there are 22 teams that are playoff caliber teams. Some playoff caliber teams are going to miss the playoffs this year.
I didn't get to be a Wings fan until 2002-03, but I've experienced everything as a fan except a rebuilding period. A part of me is excited for that chance, while the other part of me dreads missing playoffs. At the same time though, I know that regardless of where they stand I'll support the Wings, but if they don't look like they're heading for the playoffs I won't be sitting on the boards here watching 90% of people whining about how X didn't do this properly.
Joey Macdonald has been spectacular for a back-up goalie imo. I still feel more comfortable with Howie in net, but there's so much less stress than when Conklin has been playing. Hopefully we can trade off Conklin for picks or something so that he wasn't an entirely bad signing...
Nice to see the USA showing what they really can do. Shame it came out in the final period of the tourney. Also a positive that Canada finally faced some adversity though, they're going to be in for a surprise if they make it to Russia/Sweden.