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#2504264 Next Seasons Needs/Team Future

Posted by Son of a Wing on 31 March 2014 - 10:35 PM

Did you guys hear Ken Daniels quoting Babcock on Glenny:

"Other than Nick Lidstrom, Steve Yzerman, Zetterberg, Datsyuk, Crosby, Toews, and Bergeron, Luke Gendening is the most competitive player I've ever coached."


I heard it that night, but I thought the quote was "...most dependable player." Either way, HUGE compliment. 


I recorded the game and remembered it.   He says this at 14:20 of the 2nd period.  This is word for word.


"Mike Babcock got our attention today when he rated Glendening one his top 10 most competitive players he's ever coached.  


I mean he's got Lidstrom, Datsyuk, Zetterberg...talking about guys like Crosby and Toews.


Here's a kid who was a walk-on in college, undrafted in the NHL, 3rd/4th line minutes in the NHL and ranking right up there with those future hall of famers.


Just the names he said...Yzerman, Lidstrom, Crosby, Toews and Bergeron........and Glendening....."

#2493940 Howard = Average

Posted by MabusIncarnate on 09 March 2014 - 06:41 PM

Howard had the 12th highest cap hit. Halak, Crawford, Hiller, and Varlemov ate free agents this summer and may pass him.

Literally all of them have tremendous consistency issues. Halak could never hold down a starting job, he is always in some kind of time share. Crawford was so up and down that he was questioned heavily as a starting goaltender after his first great half season. Hiller had two awful seasons and lost his starting job to Fasth last year just to pick it back up again this season. 


This is the reality of goaltending. Miller has slumped for a couple months on end. Quick has done the same. Luongo had an terrible season and a half which sparked the controversy in Vancouver a couple years ago. Lundqvist had an brutal start to this season. 


No goalie has ever been great at all times, all season, every season. Every goalie listed above has had struggles ranging from weeks, to months, to extending beyond one season. It happens. Roy and Brodeur, the legends of the position, have had off months and a few bad seasons. 


This is a fact that must be accepted if you are a fan of hockey. It's not an excuse to protect Howard, but if we had Hiller, Halak, Varlamov, Crawford, any goalie mid to high range there will always be consistency issues and we'd have a thread just like this one about them also. Period. No goalie is 100% elite at all times, all season every season.

#2490200 Ken Holland's Moves From 2009-2014

Posted by AtomicPunk on 05 March 2014 - 01:28 PM

It doesn't make you any less of a fan to be able to ask the tough questions about the team you root for instead of blindly drinking the Kool Aid.

#2484310 Trade deadline fast approaching - who should we target?

Posted by Dabura on 15 February 2014 - 07:34 PM

I would love to get him, but Boston has him thriving there and there's no way in hell they let him go.  Though if they actually wanted Q, then add in a good prospect in the Pulkkinen variety maybe and then our 1st or 2nd rounder, maybe Boston would bite on that.  And then our 3rd line is Abs-Helm-Smith and my heart explodes from excitement.


Or we could just play Brendan on the wing and refer to him as "Reilly."


BABCOCK: Hey, that puck's gotta go deep, Reilly!

B. SMITH: I'm not my brother!

BABCOCK: I've noticed!

#2483818 Zetterberg out with herniated disc

Posted by BottleOfSmoke on 14 February 2014 - 11:00 AM

I don't know about you guys but I'm already done with this season. I'll watch as many games as I can but we aren't going anywhere this year.  Zetterberg may need surgery, Datsyuk isn't 100% and Franzen could be done as well. Time to look forward to next season already.

In for a penny in for a pound. I'll be done with this season when lockers are being cleaned out.

#2483813 Zetterberg out with herniated disc

Posted by GoalieManPat on 14 February 2014 - 10:39 AM

Then why are you here?  I DO care about the NHL season and the Red Wings.  I don't give a flying f*** about the Olympics.  I want the players who are being paid to play here to have their loyalties to the Red Wings.  "We" don't owe them anything. Zetterberg has the life and career he has because of the Red Wings, not because of Team Sweden.   Let's hope this puts an end to this ridiculous Olympics BS once and for all.


Spoken like someone whos never gotten the shot to represent there country in something. To most athletes (especially those from Europe) representing ones country is the highest honor. Yes even more so than the Stanley Cup. Hank owes nothing to the Red Wings or Red Wings fans. He has the life he has because he worked his ass off not because the Wings gifted him a paycheck. He helped bring a Championship and almost a second to this city when the team was supposed to be in transition. If anything the fans owe him for the joy hes brought them. He's earned the right to put Sweden over the Wings. I dont know what fantasy land your in but the Wings are not contenders this year. Sweden on the other hand was a contender for a Gold Medal. Common sense dictates which one he should go for at the end of a career. Challenging his loyalties because he went and played in the Olympics is just disrespectful for a guy whose battled for over 10 years for the Wings and its fans. Get over yourself. 

Z will slowly have to gain back my respect since he dared to try to play in the Olympics - it could have jeopardized his playing time with the Red Wings.


Yes because carrying this team on his injured back the past couple months is not worth your respect. 

#2483800 Zetterberg out with herniated disc

Posted by Nev on 14 February 2014 - 08:58 AM

Then why are you here?  I DO care about the NHL season and the Red Wings.  I don't give a flying f*** about the Olympics.  I want the players who are being paid to play here to have their loyalties to the Red Wings.  "We" don't owe them anything. Zetterberg has the life and career he has because of the Red Wings, not because of Team Sweden.   Let's hope this puts an end to this ridiculous Olympics BS once and for all.

Right, and all three are likely missing time directly due to the Olympics.  All 3 played hurt when they shouldn't have, to try and be ready for Sochi.


Simply not true.  Franzen was concussed before the Olympics, and would still be out concussed in an NHL only no-Olympics season.  He didn't suffer another concussion when he came back for 1 game, he simply wasn't recovered from his initial concussion (only 3 days symptom free when the protocol is meant to be minimum 7).  He didn't rush back for the Olympics, he rushed back because we had no centers.


Datsyuk was injured before the Olympics and would still be injured without the Olympics.  He may be guilty of delaying surgery so as not to miss Sochi, but we won't know that for another 2 weeks.


Zetterberg has been plagued with his bad back for 3 months now.  He hasn't practised in forever.  He's clearly been playing through the pain for Detroit. He had it before the Olympics, and he would have had it without an Olympics.  MANY on here have speculated that it was only a matter of time before his back went again.  Unlucky for us it went after the Czech game.

#2483685 Zetterberg out with herniated disc

Posted by RedWang on 13 February 2014 - 03:48 PM

Everybody panic! *insert Will Ferrell in Semi-Pro*

Im hearing the tweets are nonsense, "drive-by tweeting" and that Z is taking his usual maintnence day.

#2481204 What's wrong with Pasha? (Mod warning post #57)

Posted by Son of a Wing on 04 February 2014 - 12:51 PM

I have this great feeling Pavel will come back refreshed and ready, dominate at the Olympics for a medal and come back with his confidence at an all time high and lead us into the post season.

#2480655 What's wrong with Pasha? (Mod warning post #57)

Posted by frankgrimes on 03 February 2014 - 05:18 PM

I just want him to get well soon and even if he is holding back in order to  be ready for the olympics so what?


The guy has given fans and especially this organization so much joy, he now has a once in a lifetime opportunity = captain your national hockeyteam in the olympics in your fatherland !


All I know is, I will enjoy watching him showing off his magic on the big ice. All the best Pasha

#2478021 Babcock's comments on playing time

Posted by kipwinger on 28 January 2014 - 10:07 AM

This is just like every other Babcock cliche.  It's not saying much to say "the best players will play" when there's no competition for jobs at the moment.  Bring Dats, Z, and Weiss back and there will be, and I'd be amazed if "the best player played". 


He might as well say, "the best player (who can effectively alleviate cap constraints) will play".  Which is no different than two months ago when Tootoo and Eaves were waived. 


Talk is cheap.  It's time for Holland and Babs to actually DO SOMETHING to prove that "the best players will play".  And that doesn't mean waiving Sammy either.

#2477996 Babcock's comments on playing time

Posted by esteef on 28 January 2014 - 01:15 AM

Yup could be earning the spot or spreading the scoring around or injuries or line matchups, or linemates and chemistry or stupid things he said to the press last year or he's struggling with his father's health/death.
Frankly I would believe any one of those before I believe Babcock would irrationally hate a player and possibly put that before his team.

Sorta like irrationally loving a player(s) and possibly putting that before his team?


#2477992 Babcock's comments on playing time

Posted by esteef on 27 January 2014 - 11:59 PM


Abby plays top line all the time.  Does that mean he's held in higher regard than Alfie?? No.  It's about roles and spreading out the scoring between three lines.


So is it making him earn his spot or spreading the scoring around?  I can't keep track.  All just the same Babcock media lip service.  Playing Bert and Cleary over Tatar was stupid from day one and that's been painfully apparent to everyone except Babcock for quite some time.



#2477829 Who Sits Next? Speculation Thread

Posted by Dabura on 27 January 2014 - 10:33 AM

Bertuzzi's next..... Those who aren't producing should be sitting (That includes Howard)


Totally. Something no one has mentioned: he's on pace for a zero-point season. Zero goals, zero assists. And we're paying him how much money? smh. Amnesty buyout, without a doubt.

#2475424 So when would you make a move and what type?

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 22 January 2014 - 06:13 PM

BTW, did anyone else think this thread would be about dating advice?