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#2330511 [Retired] Official Lockout Thread

Posted by Nightfall on 02 October 2012 - 05:16 PM

Indeed. The reason I believe that even more is just like they acted like they were 'willing' to negotiate on the 15th to avoid a lockout. It's nothing more than PR. Especially when I watched live footage of Bettman saying he isn't worried about the time frame and there is plenty of time for negotiations...after the season. He clearly wasn't ready then, what would have made him in January? He knew they were going to lockout. Hell, I knew LAST YEAR we were going to a lockout.

I'm not taking sides...but I'm also not going to sit here and affirm the league was willing to negotiate in January as a means to slight the PA saying they waited. That's bulls***. Nothing was proved.

So, in short, you are willing to take what the NHLPA says at face value, but when the NHL says something you don't believe it. All through that, you are saying that you are not taking sides. Good to know.....

#2328970 [Retired] Official Lockout Thread

Posted by uk_redwing on 16 September 2012 - 08:26 AM

Some more meaningless words from the NHL:

Despite the expiration of the Collective Bargaining Agreement, the National Hockey League has been, and remains, committed to negotiating around the clock to reach a new CBA that is fair to the Players and to the 30 NHL teams.

Thanks to the conditions fostered by seven seasons under the previous CBA, competitive balance has created arguably the most meaningful regular season in pro sports; a different team has won the Stanley Cup every year; fans and sponsors have agreed the game is at its best, and the League has generated remarkable growth and momentum. While our last CBA negotiation resulted in a seismic change in the League's economic system, and produced corresponding on-ice benefits, our current negotiation is focused on a fairer and more sustainable division of revenues with the Players -- as well as other necessary adjustments consistent with the objectives of the economic system we developed jointly with the NHL Players' Association seven years ago. Those adjustments are attainable through sensible, focused negotiation -- not through rhetoric.

This is a time of year for all attention to be focused on the ice, not on a meeting room. The League, the Clubs and the Players all have a stake in resolving our bargaining issues appropriately and getting the puck dropped as soon as possible. We owe it to each other, to the game and, most of all, to the fans.


Nothing much I hate more in sports than the legal drafted bulls*** PR statement by the arrogant, greed filled people who think we as fans are simpletons waiting to lap up anything and everything they say with open wallets to throw money at them afterwards.

AHL for me.

#2328971 [Retired] Official Lockout Thread

Posted by evilzyme on 16 September 2012 - 08:45 AM

ill be rolling to grand rapids quite a bit. jurco's slated to start this year right?

#2292293 Will Detroit win this series?

Posted by rrasco on 18 April 2012 - 03:11 PM

I've said it long before the playoffs began...This team won't make it outta the 1st round.

You know why I hate this attitude? Because you guys make statements like they won't make it out of the first round, and defend them saying, 'Hey, I'm not gonna be saying I told you so if it hapapnes." Well.....here is proof that is not the case. I know you may not have specifically said that, but people who defend your statements do.

And no I don't think Detroit will win. If anything, they will win games 5 and 6 to only drop game 7. But I still hate some people's attitude about the team. I'm already depressed enough, I don't need anybody reminding me.

the series is not over until the team that is leading the series wins 4 games,game 5 is gonna be a huge game the wings, for them it is either win big or go home defeated

Thanks for clearing that up for us, we had no idea that's how it worked.

#2292251 Until the End ...

Posted by Wings_Dynasty on 18 April 2012 - 01:51 PM

If Lidstrom's last game is a loss to the Predators in the first round, I will lose all faith in humanity and justice in the universe.

#2291939 WCQF Game Four GDT : Predators 3 at Red Wings 1

Posted by wingsfan4795 on 18 April 2012 - 12:41 AM

The wings played great. They lost because of 3 mistakes that ended up in their own net.

And blame rinne, not Howard. Howard played well tonight, but was a victim of being left out to dry a couple times.
- goal 1 was not his fault at all
- he was out of position on goal 2 but someone should have covered Klein
- goal 3 (which didn't really have an affect on the game) was all clearys fault

If they can solve rinne and gain some momentum, they can pull out of this hole

Edit: that's what she said on the second half of that last sentence :)

#2292104 WCQF Game Four GDT : Predators 3 at Red Wings 1

Posted by Guest on 18 April 2012 - 09:44 AM

I think the Wings are going to win this series. They beat San Jose 3 times in a row last year. They can do the same to the Preds. The Wings should be up 3-1 in this series but the Preds are getting all the breaks. I picked the Preds to win this series in 7, but having seen these 4 games has made me realize the Preds are not as good as I thought they were. The Wings need to do a better job of attacking the middle of the ice and screening Rinne. Filppula needs to improve. Franzen needs to drive to the net more. Nick needs to assert himself into this series. Jimmy needs to be better than Rinne. All these things can be accomplished. The pressure is on Nashville now as the hardest game to win is the 4th one. The Wings have already won in their building. I think the Wings are the better team here and believe they will win the series. Have fatih Wings fans. We win Friday, Sunday and Tuesday and move on to round 2. :thumbup:

#2291973 Time to start looking for a new coaching staff

Posted by Guest on 18 April 2012 - 03:20 AM

and may I ask how much more time he needs? We havent gone three rounds in 3 years and have gotten worse each year since.

You're discounting this season already, which is a shame. Let's reduce it to the last two seasons How many teams have gone three rounds in the last two seasons? Answer: seven. And the only team to make it both years got crushed both times.

It's a shame that you consider continually being a contender to be completely unacceptable, but I suppose that's the spoilage that occurs when a team is very successful.

No there is no guarantee just like everything else in life, but that doesnt mean it shouldntbe done.

Of course there are reason why it shouldn't be done. The team attains a fair measure of success right now, and neither the players nor the management nor the owners would like to fire a successful coach and hire a new one who may dump it all down the drain. That you're advocating this risk because the team is not reaching the conference finals and beyond is another sign of spoilage. That you say there's no reason why the risk shouldn't be taken is really an ultimate sign.

By your thinking there no reason to trade or draft anyone either because there isnt a guarantee that those people will perform any better than who they replaced.

Drafting is zero-risk, so that makes sense. As for trades, the only moves that should be made--indeed, the only moves that ARE made--are those that have a good chance of success. It is, of course, a calculated risk. It is, too, a far lesser risk than firing a successful coach.

Thats a lose philosophy that I will never get on board with.

"You don't advocate taking this risk because of the possibility that it'll make things worse, so obviously you don't advocate taking any risks at all!" Typical accusations of absolutism. Very typical, trite and worn-out strawman argument.

Accepting the status quo is the road to defeat in life and Ill bet MY life on it. Doesnt just include hockey, thats life in general. Losers just go along with whatever is happening and randomly complain while acheivers find a way to always succeed, regardless of the risks.

Blah blah blah.

I hope you arent anywhere near the decision making of ANYTHING cause its bound to fail by your ethos alone.

Cool down, buster.

#2289232 Trotz lobbying for more goalie interference calls?

Posted by Dabura on 16 April 2012 - 08:09 PM

What is connecting this man's head to the rest of his body?

I want answers.

#2289206 Must unleash the Mule!

Posted by b.shanafan14 on 16 April 2012 - 07:39 PM

Maybe he's having injury issues and we just don't know it. I'm just trying to give him the benefit of the doubt.

Maybe it is something serious, like a yellow belly or a missing spine <_<

#2289186 Preds not allowed to play ping pong at Joe Louis Arena

Posted by BottleOfSmoke on 16 April 2012 - 07:12 PM

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"And then *I* said, 'get your own damn ping pong table!"

#2289164 Preds not allowed to play ping pong at Joe Louis Arena

Posted by Jeff6851 on 16 April 2012 - 06:45 PM

Dick move but then again it's the Preds so I wouldn't want the smell of dead catfish and Busch Light all over my table either

#2283779 NHL Should Make Injuries Fair Game!

Posted by LeonardSankar on 12 April 2012 - 05:28 PM

Well I don't know about you guys but I don't understand why people keep talking about cutting down injuries & cheapshots when we all know they will never stop b/c we all know players want the other teams players to get injured b/c those teams will be easier to beat. Also fans want the teams other players to miss time due to injury b/c they get a better chance of watching their team win. Case in point I have no problem if the Preds suffer a rash of injuries or Pens, Canucks, Sharks for that matter. In the world of sports its all about looking out for #1 and just getting your team to win or the team that you have cash on if you are a bettor.

I think the league has to accept that professional sports is all about winning and the only way to put away the injury/cheapshot issues to bed is to legalize it and let the players all knock each other out until we have no healthy bodies left and then they will learn their lessons only then.

Also you have to look at the coaching and I bet if you ask any NHL coach if they would like Cindy Crybaby injured or healthy and all 29 coaches will say they rather him injured b/c he can't hurt me from the press box. It's that plain & simple b/c winning is everything in pro sports and if you have a chance to injure someone with a clean hit you do so and if you want to take a cheapshot to injure someone you do it at your own risk as there will be some retribution from the other teams players.