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#2322947 Holland losing his moxie? Is Detroit slipping as UFA destination?

Posted by The Axe on 30 July 2012 - 09:14 AM

Your argument has failed with others, as well. So you resort to name calling? Tell me why a lot of us our nervous that these Griffins and new comers arent the answer and that trades are necessary now to ice a competitive team. Why do you feel different? Brunner has never played NHL hockey. Nyquist can count his NHL goals on one hand. Tootoo and Samuelsson were let go by other teams. And we didnt replace a 7 time Norris winner with anyone substantial. How do you feel good about all of this?


#2322897 Holland losing his moxie? Is Detroit slipping as UFA destination?

Posted by The Axe on 29 July 2012 - 11:38 PM

If our talent pool is so good, why resign Bertuzzi, sign Brunner, sign Samuelson, sign Tootoo, etc etc etc. I think Emmerton is the only guy we have that is a legit NHLer because of his spped. Hopefully, Brunner's speed will be as advertised as well. We need it. Holland not getting anybody this off-season has put us in sink or swim mode, which is probably going to be hard to stomach but is probably not a bad thing long term. At least we will know what these young guys can do instead of arguing about it!!!


#2322861 Holland losing his moxie? Is Detroit slipping as UFA destination?

Posted by Xraymind7781 on 29 July 2012 - 05:14 PM

lmao nice redirection there.

This has nothing to do with hall of famers and not one of the players you listed is an overpaid has been anyway....with the exception of Samuelsson...and Homer won't be playing for us this season so yeah.

If you knew anything about the wings you'd know we are notorious for keeping our talent in the minors for long periods of time. Smith has been NHL ready for years and only now is getting his first shot at a full NHL season. Has nothing to do with the caliber of the prospect and everything to do with our development philosophy.

Yakupov would be starting the season in the minors on this team. Unless your the next Pavel Datsyuk that's the way things work.


I argue that if you knew anything about the wings, you now know that for years and years holding back talent in the minors was a luxury for this club. One that they are no longer able to afford i'm affriad. Whith so many oppertunities now available for these younger players, I feel that it will only thin our prospects pool even further.


#2322853 Holland losing his moxie? Is Detroit slipping as UFA destination?

Posted by Shaman on 29 July 2012 - 03:51 PM

lmao nice redirection there.

This has nothing to do with hall of famers and not one of the players you listed is an overpaid has been anyway....with the exception of Samuelsson...and Homer won't be playing for us this season so yeah.

If you knew anything about the wings you'd know we are notorious for keeping our talent in the minors for long periods of time. Smith has been NHL ready for years and only now is getting his first shot at a full NHL season. Has nothing to do with the caliber of the prospect and everything to do with our development philosophy.

Yakupov would be starting the season in the minors on this team. Unless your the next Pavel Datsyuk that's the way things work.

Smith wasn't NHL ready until last season, he had maturity and dedication problems until his last year at Wisconsin, and that being the case he would need at least a year at the AHL to make sure those problems were in the past.


#2322825 Holland losing his moxie? Is Detroit slipping as UFA destination?

Posted by The Axe on 29 July 2012 - 12:22 PM

I agree with you. If prospects are really good, they develop in the NHL. Not Grand Rapids.


#2322786 Holland losing his moxie? Is Detroit slipping as UFA destination?

Posted by Xraymind7781 on 29 July 2012 - 12:35 AM

holland had always been able to draw free agents because they knew they were going to be contending for the cup. that isnt the case anymore. we are entering a different era in redwings hockey. the future doesnt look so bright. hopefully something happens to change that. personally i don't have as much faith as some people here in our prospects.


#2322017 Holland losing his moxie? Is Detroit slipping as UFA destination?

Posted by pucktividi on 26 July 2012 - 01:06 AM

Off topic but I lol'd

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=401434

"Now we move forward and see what we can do," he explained. "We like our team - we think it's a good, up-and-coming young team and we will continue to try and add to it and make it better, which is what we tried to do with the offer sheet. We'll move forward.There are still players out there that require a trade," Holmgren added in the conference call. "There's still plenty of time before we can plan and rule out anything right now. As I said earlier, we really like our team, we certainly don't want to make any drastic changes, but we are going to continue to look at ways to get better. The object is to have the best team going into training camp and that's what we're going to do."




#2322005 Holland losing his moxie? Is Detroit slipping as UFA destination?

Posted by Dabura on 25 July 2012 - 10:41 PM

Ian White is our #2 defenseman. That's borderline outrageous. Holland should've been better prepared for Nick's departure. It's really that simple.


#2322010 Holland losing his moxie? Is Detroit slipping as UFA destination?

Posted by The Axe on 25 July 2012 - 11:36 PM

Holland blew it. Plain and simple. He's got his head up and locked right now. He's taking care of fringe moves that dont help the team and missing out on ones that could. Pondering over Holmstrom's future? Are you kidding me? Bertuzzi? Samuelsson? Tootoo? Quincey? Would any of you on here rather have these 5 guys and their 11 million dollar cap hit instead of Suter (9 mil per), nyquist, tatar, emmerton, and #63 (cant remember name)? "But Holland would have had to offer parise 9 mil too.". Fine! If he wasnt blowing it on has-beens, we'd still have 4-5 mil in cap space even after spending 18 mil per on those 2 guys. Holland is going to need to trade players now. And Franzen isnt going to be what other teams want. Filppula , Smith, and Nyquist are the goods. Losing those guys will hurt us more than people realize. Holland has failed. Goose said it best = no points for 2nd place.


#2321639 Who is your favorite player from a team besides the Wings?

Posted by Salviaman on 24 July 2012 - 07:06 PM

Parise :)


#2321630 Who is your favorite player from a team besides the Wings?

Posted by germanwing on 24 July 2012 - 06:57 PM

Ryan Suter :ninja:


#2321838 Perry and Getzlaf

Posted by evilzyme on 25 July 2012 - 11:06 AM

At what point during the Kings run did they beat Columbus in the playoffs?


When they made it and CBJ didn't.


#2289418 Nashville or Detroit: Better Hockey Fans?

Posted by GetToDaChoppah on 16 April 2012 - 11:25 PM

Apparently you missed the first two games because everyone here can tell you they were throwing their towels on the ice after both games.

Your team has no history, they are relatively new and therefore can generate a lot of excitement just because they do pretty good every year, don't, even for a second, think they know anything about hockey that a Detroit fan doesn't.


Sorry we have only been around for 14 years. It's not our fault we weren't blessed with a National Hockey Team until 1998 but hockey has been around in Nashville since the 60s so some of us aren't as dumb to the sport as you may like to think.

I've never said Nashville knew any more about hockey than a die hard Detroit fan either.

I'm simply saying it's not fair to write us off as hicks with no grasp of the sport because we are from the South.

Oh and those weren't towels they were shirts and I'm sure most of them were thrown by visiting Red Wings fans and possibly a few Predators fans who didn't care for an XL Shirt. I have about 20 of them in my drawer from playoffs because they are way too big to wear. I guess some folks decided to donate their to the ice :) They will go to charities now instead of not being worn.


#2289402 Nashville or Detroit: Better Hockey Fans?

Posted by GetToDaChoppah on 16 April 2012 - 11:07 PM

It's sad that a fanbase that trashes their arena after every game is considered better than a fanbase that is loyal and knows the game


I am a STH of the Nashville Predators and I have never seen anyone trash the arena. How so do you account for this claim?

Also a fan base that is loyal? The Nashville Predators fans rallied and damn near rioted when they even thought about moving the team and helped it stay put and it has thrived ever sense garnering tons of respect along the years across the league.

When I think of loyal Red Wings fans I think about seeing them get up and leave during Game 3 with plenty of time to try and mount a come back attempt. Never, unless the game was just ridiculously out of reach late in the 3rd have I seen Predator fans leaving. Especially with it being a playoff game! Shame...


#2321277 Rick Nash traded to the New York Rangers

Posted by kipwinger on 23 July 2012 - 03:27 PM

Who cares if another team in our division got weaker. How does that help us win a cup? As a matter of fact, it doesn't really help us with the division either considering the Blues are essentially the same team as last year and so are the Hawks. I don't understand why anyone thinks that Columbus getting worse (worse than dead last) is in any way beneficial for us.