ShanahanMan

With someone as Bert in you're avatar, I find it funny you are ripping Kenny lol. just saying

Fair point. Have had this avatar for the last 3 years, maybe time for a change .

In all honesty, I was as pissed at the Bert extension as the next guy. In a few years, we're looking at most of our core guys being mid to late 30's!

Wings aren't gonna get Nash. I can't see how any of you can think otherwise. Traded to a division rival? Just not gonna happen.

True. If we were to fail to get a high quality defenseman, I would rather see Holland just stand pat and not do much else, except maybe 1-year temp deals just to get us through the season. Basically, simply prepare for to restack for next year.

I'm really worried that Holland will instead throw some long term contract at one of the "B" players, just to help fill the roster. Like I said, if it can be done for a 1 year term, I'd be fine but other than that, we are better off saving the funds for next FA.

I really think it was Suter or bust this year.

Sometimes you have to overpay to get the right players at the right time. With the weak free agents the last couple years their salary is going to be inflated. The salary cap has been consistently going up... what might be overpaying this year may be a bargain down the road it's just the economy of the NHL these days. You can't relate a contract signed 5 years ago to a contract signed this year and expect to have the same value.

Exactly. Gotta make use of what the market has.

Understand about the Twitter citing, but Insiderr guy is calling 95%​ on Suter to Detroit. He's soon either gonna look brilliant, or become the next Eklund.

Oh and he's also saying 90% for Parise to Pens .

I've been following this guy for a couple days, I'm not sure how reliable he is but he's sounded pretty reputable with the semin situation, and apparently he leaked jäger to Dallas this morning. And he sound really anal about checking his sources.

Anyway I didn't have the chance to post earlier, but these were around an hour ago.

Hockeyy insiderr:
"Had to be back early because of a text I just got from a source I trust immensely. Won't post it before I double check tho. On Suter. HUGE."

"Couldn't verify with other sources, but as per one source close to Suter he has made a choice, Detroit. #RedWings Working contract details."

Holding you to this man!

I think this is simply a way for Dallas to sell tickets. No one's going to their games anymore.

Lost in all this, Helen St. James has reported that if Detroit misses the Parise bus, they will go hard for Doan on the 9th...

Of course he will. Any player under 35 has no place on this team.

People's reactions are priceless. We signed 4 players on July first. One guy was coveted by every NHL team and has serious speed and shooting abilities.

Yes, he was highly sought after......and yes there's extremely high potential. However, there's no guarantee he will be able to fit in with NHL. Without seeing him step foot into this league, he's a big question mark.

One guy was heralded as the next big thing for goalies.

Come on now. I think it was actually a good signing and he could probably fit in well with his Swedish teammates. That being said, he is remarkably inconsistent with a pretty bad GAA. Still, a solid signing.

One guy is one of the best pests in the league and fights and is a heart and soul guy who just put up 30 points

Heart and soul guy? The same guy with major alcohol and domestic problems? The same guy who was scratched through most of the 2012 playoffs? There is absolutely no place for this loser. And to the idiots spewing, "BUT, BUT, HE ADDS SIZE, GRIT, AND TOUGHNESS!".....no. The guy is 5'9, built small, and adds zero strength to our lineup. Big difference between grit and rat.

and one guy who is a right handed shot and loves to shoot and will put up 20+ goals.  

He'll put up 20+ goals, eh? Is that a promise? 36, coming off injury after injury, passed up by TWO teams and......he gets a raise (he was on 2.5m before)? Where's the logic in that? And to the guys pointing to his stats in Vancouver, look a bit deeper. He was playing most of the time on a line with the Sedins or Kesler......OFCOURSE he's gonna wrack up points. I feel this signing is on par with when we brought Williams back and will likely have just as bad a result...maybe even worse considering the NTC.


Just my two cents  

Funny, I remember reading posts like this when Dallas Drake was signed by the Wings the year they won the cup.  

Drake was signed close to league minimum, not $3M a year for two years WITH an NTC. Completely different. This guy, especially at 35, is supposed to score 25 goals a season? Especially with all the injuries?

It seriously boggles the head. What the hell is wrong with our GM?

in regards to parise....

Adrian Dater via twitter: Dater thinks the Wings will go $100 million.

12-13 years, 100 million I think is fair for him considering his age and consistency. While I'm not a big fan of long term, stretched out contracts, in his case I think it's necessary. Other, more streaky players on the other hand......(*cough* *cough* FRANZEN *cough*cough*)

While he had a great year last year, it was a contract year, meaning he could go back to average old Hudler next season which is the most concerning point.

No offence, but I think this is just selfish fan talk.

I think if you asked Nick he would prefer if Holland looked after the future of the Wings franchise rather than mortgage it to give him, as an individual, one more shot at the cup. But maybe you feel differently.

Sorry, that quote was referring to last year.

We do NOT already have a good team, otherwise we wouldn't have had our asses handed to us in the first round. Datsyuk and Zetterberg have nothing to do with the absence Lidstrom will leave on the blueline and Kronwall, while a solid player, is no where near Lidstrom level and, in my opinion, never will be.

We are NOT that deep, as most farm boys who we've been giving shots to have really been disappointing thus far. Kindl, Emmerton, Mursak to name a few. You think these guys are the future? Sure, there's potential in Nyquist and Smith but it's way too early to tell and I see 3rd line at best. I mean, Babcock himself commented on his brilliantly after we got eliminated, basically saying we were putting 3rd and 4th line guys on our 1st and 2nd. I mean, Abdelkader a 2nd line center? Give me a break.

We may seem like we have a lot of money, but considering the scarcity of the FA market this summer, expect the star players to command big big bucks. And we know how Holland feels about "spending". Well, other than bloated 10 year+ contracts that is.

You know what we could have asked for? Our GM to give our star player and captain a better team to support him his final season. Otherwise, maybe he wouldn't "lack the motivation and drive to continue" (his words not mine).



Seriously though, how does the sand taste?

I have mixed emotions of both sadness and anger.

Sad to see who in my mind is the greatest defenseman in NHL history, someone who I grew up watching, retire.

Angry to see him go out the way he did. Holland brought him back, just to stand pat and not improve the team around whatsoever around him. In exchange, we get just about shut out in the first round. He deserved a better way to go out......

He deserved a better fate.