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http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20120618/SPORTS0103/206180395/Wings-will-aggressive-pursuit-Justin-Schultz-analyst-predicts?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|FRONTPAGE Hmmmmm...doesn't really say too much, but I do like the headline....I wonder who he is quoting when saying "agressive"

if he has limited his teams to only Canadian teams, then he is stupid and doesn't really want to win anything soon...There are about 10 American teams that are poised to win a Cup WAY before any Canadian team will...Think about is Schultz, the last time a Canadian team won a Cup you were 2 years old. Vancouver has been the closest, btu are about to trade away the only reason they get to the playoffs...Good luck in Canada Justin, you will never sip from the chalice...

Because he made $3.125M last season, Holland only has to qualify him for the same $3.125M. Because he made over $1M. Holland must qualify him for that amount to keep him from becoming a UFA, I agree he could accept that offer, but we all know he is worth more on the open market, so if Holland qualified him he remains a RFA and Quincey could sign an offer sheet of from someone and Holland has 7 days to decide whether to match or recieve the compensation... http://thehockeywriters.com/2011-12-nhl-rfa-compensation-rules/ Also, it would not benefit either of them to go to arbitration...I would hope Quincey would just be a man and go somewhere else and not hold Ken Holland hostage. I am not disagreeing that he is worth more than $3.125M but since Holland is about to attempt to spend upwards of $16M on Parise/Suter, the two draft picks are more valuable. $4M to Quincey would just be wasting Cap space when he is at best a #4/#5 defender and not part of this reload. IF Quincey gets awarded too much money and it hinders our ability to properly reload, he will immediately become the next whipping boy, especially if he plays like the hot garbage he played like last season...for the money, I'd rather keep Kindl around for $800,000 than re-sign Quincey. I can think of a few Defenders who are a better value to this team than Quincey...who can be had for less...

Ya, either way if Holland lets Quincey go RFA, he will probably sign somewhere for around $3.5M so that means in 2013 Holland will have TWO 1st's and TWO 3rd's...Whether or not Quincey signs with a bottom dweller or a contender, it will be nice to have those picks....could be nice trade material as well! It is because of the compensation Holland would receive is why Quincey was a good pick-up. It would not be worth the 1st round pick he gave up to re-sign him, but to get a 1st AND a 3rd back would be great!

Totally agree, he could come in here and actually become a 2nd line center allowing Pav and Z to get back together. He is definitely out of Pit soon, if Crosby signs the $9M and with Malkin due up in a couple of years there just wont be enough cash in Pit for Mr. Staal...I don't see Holland trading for him, but if he makes UFA after this season, I can imagine he would be high on the list (along with everyone else's list) to get... Just imagine this....Holland lands both Parise/Suter this year, gets Pav, Val, Helm and Abby re-signed for the rest of there career's and then lands Staal next year, I would say the future would be pretty set in Hockeytown for a long time!

I, for the life of me, cannot see why these players want to go places that they are not going to win. Edmonton? Toronto? Canucks about ready to trade their goalie who sees that Vancouver will never win...I can think of 10 other teams outside of Detroit where this kid could go and have a winning career...but whatever. He is gonna go where he wants, but he has really a 5% chance of winning a cup in his career on a Canadian team...sorry Canadian brothers, but the truth is the truth. If these guys don't ever want to win, its on them... If you are referring to Jordan Staal, hell ya he would be great to have! He is about the only Pengwhine that I don't hate. I feel sorry for him being stuck on that team...

I would say if Parise ACTUALLY signs a deal with the Wild, then it should REALLY be considered tampering and there should be 29 other teams filing grievances... If Parise goes elsewhere then it won't matter. But I don't hear "friends" or other GM's out there saying that their "friends" team is going to be paying Parise the moon either, so I have to believe that it was wrong to do of Leopold's "friend" and it should be looked into by the league and the association.

Nice to see Adam Hall still making it in the NHL and at $650,000 it's a good deal.

No matter the back up plan, he cannot include Hudler or Quincey. Hudler will garner way too much money and Quincey is worth more letting someone else sign him and getting the draft picks than what he brings to the Wings. I'd rather give Nyquist, Hudler's ice-time and re-tool the D entirely before overpaying Quincey, who at $3.125 he made last year was over-payment on this team. On the market, Hudler may be worth $5M and Quincey $4M, but not here. Let them go...We already are over-paying Ericsson for hopes he grows into his contract... I'd rather go for Schultz (also would like to see where it is said he will only play for a Canadian team) and another proven player like Wideman or Carle than overpay Quincey... Kronwall - White Ericsson - Wideman(Carle) Smith - Schultz Kindl(or another #7 if you trade Kindl) Obviously I'd rather see Suter there, but I do not want to see Quincey there no matter what. You couldn't trade him to a team for a 1st/3rd so why not let him sign somewhere and get them by default? Could be a very high 1st next year!

unfortunately what they are worth and what they will get are two different amounts... Most July 1st's we all are glad that Holland doesn't overpay to get a player (Wisniewski) because for the most part the Wings needs are just a few plugs here and there....BUT this July 1st is going to be the first time Ken Holland has faced this much of a hole to fill on D and for the first time he will be looking to solidify an offensive future that will eventually NOT include Datsyuk or Zetterberg. So with that being said, Holland is going to HAVE TO overpay to get Parise and Suter in order to help secure the transition AND replace the best he can Lidstrom/Stuart. I am not sure how Holland will structure the cap hit for these guys, BUT I think inorder to make sure they sign here, he may have to front load the contract so they are between $8M-$10M in actually salary for a few years...I wouldn't be angry with Holland if the Cap hit was $8M for each of them. Like I said, usually he doesn't have to outbid other teams because we aren't usually in that much of a need, but today we are in need, big time. I think Holland MUST get Suter first and foremost, he is the #1 priority. Parise is 2nd...and it would be a greater lose if Holland didn't get Suter and only got Parise rather than vice-versa. If Holland doesn't get either then the Wings are in for a ruff season with all the back-up plans out there. Will they be bottom dwellers? No, but it will be a trying season. So, my answer is both should top out at a cap hit of $8M if Holland has to outbid teams, the cap hit should NOT go any higher. Salaries are different, $10M for a few years is not out of the question and I would not be upset or consider it an over-payment only because Holland has to make these deals and outbid others in the process... Priority 1: Suter

Honestly, I'd take Parise/Semin/Moen/Suter/Schultz/Harding as our new players...That's alot of signing and changes, especially for one off season, but Holland needs to make this big splash and prove to the NHL that Detroit is here to stay and will NOT rebuild, just reload! Get these guys signed up for years and then let the likes of Sheahan, Jarnkrok, Pulkkinen etc... slowly make their way into the lineup. ( I still cannot explain how imperative it is to get these kids under contract: Dekeyser, Schultz, Welsh, in a few years when Sheahan in up along with Smith leading the way, this Red Wings team will be young, fast and HARD to play against...Howard will be in his prime and our D will be young and tough along with the O.)

Which is why Holland should sign him and let Quincey walk for the draft picks... I am telling you (not you personally) that a tandem of Smith and Schultz is going to be the Red Wings version of Suter/Weber...and guess what, they are gonna get Suter too! (then in a perfect world, Weber comes along next year!) Seriously though, Smith/Schultz will be a great tandem...Holland needs to get this kid signed...along with DeKeyser... Very VERY important to get these kids signed...

...Obviously Babcock is Scotty... Although I do share your hope for Semin to work out here if he signs...

Uh....ya. Considering if Suter is Holland's PRIME target, I think Chelios just may lose his job if he is trying to convince him to play in Chicago... Oh and to the original article referring to this, long time Blackhawk...LONGER time Red Wing and CURRENT Red Wing Brass... I love all the spinmasters that come out this time of year, they all know it all! Guess what guys, tonight I went to Monroe St. Steakhouse in Greektown and I may or may not have seen someone who may or may not have looked like someone from the higher ups of the Red Wings having dinner with someone who may or may not have looked like Ryan Suter...I wasn't sure, but just sayin... [/sarcasm]

Josh Harding....welcome to Detroit!

Yes, I do remember well when Fedorov went to Anaheim and Babcock called Bowman asking WTF is up with Fedorov, and how does he get him motivated....I could see that happening with Semin too...

Cool...nice to have a central place to look! Let's all hope there is a right's trade for us listed here soon! EDIT: So maybe Harding isn't gonna go to the Lightning then....Hmmmmm.....

THIS, but he did have good stats, I just think the mood on the Wings went stale with this group...now they lost their leader PLUS another top 4 defenseman. 50 points or not, this group needs an injection of life and going back to the same players of the last three playoff letdowns would be a costly mistake...IMO. Frankly if Franzen is bored and needs to have more fun, then re-signing Hudler is not going to do that... Signing Parise/Suter, now that would inject some excitement and fun into the lineup!

Stat-wise, I jest I jest, but I wouldn't miss Franzen/Hudler if they just left for nothing...I simply dislike them both, but I won't argue with their stats... ...why are you so sure that Semin would be a healthy scratch for 20 games or so?

That would only happen if Holland's buddy said something like that...don't you know by now, the rules are only enforced strictly when it comes to Detroit...when it involves other teams, they just rescind penalties, allow the 6th man to get back off the ice after a minute or so...you know, when it doesn't make Detroit the better team, the Bettman Rules are invoked. If Detroit will benefit, then its strictly by the book...

Good, because NJ is going to sign and trade Parise to Detroit and Suter will just sign here on July 1st... Tatar/Mursak/J. Andersson/3rd rounder to NJ...

Let him sign a contract there, the NHL will deem it illegal and against the CBA and then nullify the contract...discipline the Wild. fine, suspend, take away draft picks, ban them from post season games, ban then from Nationally televised games, castrate the GM...

I'd rather have Semin at $7M than Franzen at $4M and Hudler at $4M...I am just tired of the same old garbage every year...Franzen is oft injured or playing at 60% and Hudler is not worth $4M-$5M on this team. I'd do not want Hudler in a house or with a mouse, I do not want him with a goat or on a boat, I do not want him Sam I Am...

Not if you want to win...but anything is possible...I guess...

The problem with the blank check is, salaries are going to skyocket because of it! There is no way Parise deserves more money that Crosby (as much as I hate him) and that is the bottom line...if Crosby gets $9M, Parise is around $7M for value, $8M should be tops, VERY VERY tops! I hope Holland doesn't offer Parise a blank check, there has to be a line drawn somewhere or next you'll see Hudler asking for $6M...and the Abby's of the world will be demanding and getting $5M...if it comes down to Leopold giving Parise a blank check to put $10M on, then you can have him Minny, then in 5 years (with no Cups still) you'll be screaming for a trade! Holland, just say yes to Parise, but NO to a blank check...$8M TOPS...