timothy1997 0 Report post Posted September 11, 2005 Michigan had that chance...michigan had the 2nd half opening drive chance...michigan even had a chance in the final minutes AFTER the play reviews were thru.....michigan had ever chance in the WORLD to at least tie the game. They didnt do it and to blame the refs after the game or rewind your VCR to get another look, doesnt change a thing. Michigan lost. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dallas27 7 Report post Posted September 11, 2005 (edited) "They dont have a running back or receiver. An inexperienced quarterback doesnt help either." That's when you said it lol, short term memory? Edited September 11, 2005 by dallas27 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
timothy1997 0 Report post Posted September 11, 2005 "They dont have a running back or receiver. An inexperienced quarterback doesnt help either." That's when you said it lol, short term memory? ok maybe inexperience quarterback is a bad choice of words. I posted before that I don't think a freshman or sophmore should be starting quarterback. The QB position is too important in NCAA football. In no way, did i knock Henne's talent. I even posted that he will be a heisman candidate next year and the year after. As for running back Hart, please. Michigan needs hart. To say that you don't need hart is insane. Michigan has some receivers. What they don't have is a go-to-guy like they have had in the past. Maybe they will have that later this year, maybe they won't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dallas27 7 Report post Posted September 11, 2005 ok maybe inexperience quarterback is a bad choice of words. I posted before that I don't think a freshman or sophmore should be starting quarterback. The QB position is too important in NCAA football. In no way, did i knock Henne's talent. I even posted that he will be a heisman candidate next year and the year after. As for running back Hart, please. Michigan needs hart. To say that you don't need hart is insane. Michigan has some receivers. What they don't have is a go-to-guy like they have had in the past. Maybe they will have that later this year, maybe they won't. No, Matt stated that Henne was going to be a Heisman candidate. You may have agreed with him, I'm not sure. You are making no sense here: You say that Michigan doesn't have a running back and then you say they need Hart. I'm confused, are you saying that Hart is a good running back or are you saying Michigan doesn't have a running back? Maybe you think hart will be out which mean they don't have a running back, I dunno. You have to be more clear but I highly doubt Hart will be out any longer, he was able to walk off the field, it's most likely a bruise. Michigan may need Hart NOW, but as Matt stated Grady is going to possibly be even better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
timothy1997 0 Report post Posted September 11, 2005 ok maybe inexperience quarterback is a bad choice of words. I posted before that I don't think a freshman or sophmore should be starting quarterback. The QB position is too important in NCAA football. In no way, did i knock Henne's talent. I even posted that he will be a heisman candidate next year and the year after. As for running back Hart, please. Michigan needs hart. To say that you don't need hart is insane. Michigan has some receivers. What they don't have is a go-to-guy like they have had in the past. Maybe they will have that later this year, maybe they won't. No, Matt stated that Henne was going to be a Heisman candidate. You may have agreed with him, I'm not sure. You are making no sense here: You say that Michigan doesn't have a running back and then you say they need Hart. I'm confused, are you saying that Hart is a good running back or are you saying Michigan doesn't have a running back? Maybe you think hart will be out which mean they don't have a running back, I dunno. You have to be more clear but I highly doubt Hart will be out any longer, he was able to walk off the field, it's most likely a bruise. Michigan may need Hart NOW, but as Matt stated Grady is going to possibly be even better. If grady was as good or better than hart, then why didn't he do much after hart got injuried. Talk was in these posts was that hart, grady, martin were as good of a running back core as their ever was at michigan. This game showed me how valuable hart is to the wolverines. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
archemedes 0 Report post Posted September 11, 2005 what I find funny is all the complaining how bad UM really is, there are some other highly touted teams that lost that are still getting respect (Auburn lost to GA Tech, but bama fans are still worried about them as is most of the sec)my opinion is you can't say how bad a team is until your favorite beats them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
timothy1997 0 Report post Posted September 11, 2005 what I find funny is all the complaining how bad UM really is, there are some other highly touted teams that lost that are still getting respect (Auburn lost to GA Tech, but bama fans are still worried about them as is most of the sec)my opinion is you can't say how bad a team is until your favorite beats them all i said was michigan is overrated. I also thought ohio state was overrated too. The defensive play by texas last night makes them worthy of the #2 ranking behind USC, which is clearly #1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dallas27 7 Report post Posted September 11, 2005 If grady was as good or better than hart, then why didn't he do much after hart got injuried. Talk was in these posts was that hart, grady, martin were as good of a running back core as their ever was at michigan. This game showed me how valuable hart is to the wolverines. You gotta use your head bro and start reading posts. I didn't say Grady was better than Hart, I reinforced what Matt said and agreed that Grady is GOING TO POSSIBLY be even better. The keyword is going....to.....possibly....which means he's not better now but perhaps in the future. Again, read the post correctly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
archemedes 0 Report post Posted September 11, 2005 all i said was michigan is overrated. I also thought ohio state was overrated too. The defensive play by texas last night makes them worthy of the #2 ranking behind USC, which is clearly #1 it wasn't so much that, but I keep hearing people say UM doesn't ahve this or that, they are still among the top 25 teams, and they may surprise next week this is one loss to a big rival who always steps up (and is way underrated because of a new coach) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
timothy1997 0 Report post Posted September 17, 2005 WOW! what a game. Big win for the spartans. Go Green Go White Go State Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dallas27 7 Report post Posted September 18, 2005 (edited) WOW! what a game. Big win for the spartans. Go Green Go White Go State You do realize that you are no better than that guy that posted in the Spartan thread going on about Michigan now right? I'm glad they won, Michigan is my favorite team but that doesn't mean I don't root for all colleges in Michigan. Spartans blew a 21 point lead and if they would have choked it would not have been good to say the least. *Edit* What's even more funny is that you didn't mention anything about the game in the Spartans thread and you directly came to the Michigan thread. Edited September 18, 2005 by dallas27 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
timothy1997 0 Report post Posted September 18, 2005 You do realize that you are no better than that guy that posted in the Spartan thread going on about Michigan now right? Yeah I know. But this thread was to discuss about my this michigan team is overrated. And they are. What does michigan's OVERALL SCHOOL RECORD have anything to do with this year. Michigan State defeated Notre Dame. Something Michigan cannot claim. That can be explained several ways. #1 Michigan State is a better team than michigan and notre dame. #2 Notre Dame got too excited after the win in Ann Arbor and just overlooked the spartans. #3 Michigan overlooked/too much respect for Notre Dame. #4 Bad coaching on Michigan. #5 Just plain old LUCK. I personally would like to say that michigan state is a underrated and a better team than people originally gave them credit for. However, I will reserve more comments about that til after the Michigan-Michigan State game in East Lansing in a few weeks. Its tough to say why michigan state handled Notre Dame (Handled prior to the 4th quarter). Michigan State had no business playing overtime against the irish. They opened the 2nd half and should have ran the irish off the field. They let them back in by state's poor defense and lack of offensive creativity. Sort of similar to how michigan was too conservative against notre dame and cost them their game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dallas27 7 Report post Posted September 18, 2005 You do realize that you are no better than that guy that posted in the Spartan thread going on about Michigan now right? Yeah I know. But this thread was to discuss about my this michigan team is overrated. And they are. What does michigan's OVERALL SCHOOL RECORD have anything to do with this year. Than what does Michigan State have anything to do with Michigan being over-rated? I'll tell you, nothing. And State isn't a better team, the bcs standings say so, and untill they surpass Michigan they won't be the better team. Let me ask you a question: If the last place team beats the first place team in their only meeting in that year does that make the last place team a better team than the first place team? The answer is no. Just becuase a team beats another team that a different team did not does not make them better. You know what, you are even worse than that other guy, he was at least joking. You are just trying to be a cocky, arrogant, rub it in your face punk. And that's gonna come back and hit you square in the face one day and you can't say you didn't have it coming. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
timothy1997 0 Report post Posted September 18, 2005 I personally would like to say that michigan state is a underrated and a better team than people originally gave them credit for. However, I will reserve more comments about that til after the Michigan-Michigan State game in East Lansing in a few weeks. Michigan State is not in last place and if Michigan State beats Michigan in 2 weeks, then Michigan State WILL be ranked higher than Michigan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dallas27 7 Report post Posted September 19, 2005 Michigan State is not in last place and if Michigan State beats Michigan in 2 weeks, then Michigan State WILL be ranked higher than Michigan. And then you can say that Michigan State has a better team. Sorry for calling you a punk, little out of line, you are cocky as sh*t though Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowingsgo 3 Report post Posted September 19, 2005 Who cares? College football doesnt crown a real champion. The sport is a sham for the schools and the BCS folks to make money off of fans. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
timothy1997 0 Report post Posted September 20, 2005 And then you can say that Michigan State has a better team. Sorry for calling you a punk, little out of line, you are cocky as sh*t though its alright. I have been called worst. I have been here for a long time in letsgowings site. Just haven't done much in the forums til now. I am here to stay. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
timothy1997 0 Report post Posted September 25, 2005 wow. who would have thought that michigan would start 2-2. The are missing hart and edwards a ton. Michigan fans, will you finally acknowledge that this post has some validation that michigan is overrated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted September 25, 2005 wow. who would have thought that michigan would start 2-2. The are missing hart and edwards a ton. Michigan fans, will you finally acknowledge that this post has some validation that michigan is overrated. In two losses they have had two touchdowns not credited...and that would have been the difference. I was pissed early in tonight's game...Michigan intercepts the ball? it's a completion. Michigan recovers a fumble? Fumble never happened. Michigan player gets into the end zone? Stopped at the one. Even the TD call can go the way it did..but the others were huge--instead of getting a fumble recovery on the Wisc 30, they got a punt return on the Mich 5. Still, wasn't as bad as the ND missed touchdown. That one basically decided the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
timothy1997 0 Report post Posted September 25, 2005 In two losses they have had two touchdowns not credited...and that would have been the difference. I was pissed early in tonight's game...Michigan intercepts the ball? it's a completion. Michigan recovers a fumble? Fumble never happened. Michigan player gets into the end zone? Stopped at the one. Even the TD call can go the way it did..but the others were huge--instead of getting a fumble recovery on the Wisc 30, they got a punt return on the Mich 5. Still, wasn't as bad as the ND missed touchdown. That one basically decided the game. sounds to me like just sour grapes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redwings1914 18 Report post Posted September 25, 2005 In two losses they have had two touchdowns not credited...and that would have been the difference. I was pissed early in tonight's game...Michigan intercepts the ball? it's a completion. Michigan recovers a fumble? Fumble never happened. Michigan player gets into the end zone? Stopped at the one. Even the TD call can go the way it did..but the others were huge--instead of getting a fumble recovery on the Wisc 30, they got a punt return on the Mich 5. Still, wasn't as bad as the ND missed touchdown. That one basically decided the game. sounds to me like just sour grapes. You can't say s**t until we play each other.......... if MSU wins next week, you have my permission to say all the crap you wanna say....... but for now, take it down a notch.........everybody has a opinion, just cause it isn't the same as yours, it doesn't mean that your right or wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
timothy1997 0 Report post Posted September 25, 2005 In two losses they have had two touchdowns not credited...and that would have been the difference. I was pissed early in tonight's game...Michigan intercepts the ball? it's a completion. Michigan recovers a fumble? Fumble never happened. Michigan player gets into the end zone? Stopped at the one. Even the TD call can go the way it did..but the others were huge--instead of getting a fumble recovery on the Wisc 30, they got a punt return on the Mich 5. Still, wasn't as bad as the ND missed touchdown. That one basically decided the game. sounds to me like just sour grapes. You can't say s**t until we play each other.......... if MSU wins next week, you have my permission to say all the crap you wanna say....... but for now, take it down a notch.........everybody has a opinion, just cause it isn't the same as yours, it doesn't mean that your right or wrong. whoa. take it down a notch?? I can't talk crap unless the spartans win on saturday?? Even if michigan wins, the spartans still have a better overall record than michigan. If Michigan was 4-0 and steamrollering their opponents and Michigan State was 2-2 looking lackluster, you would be all up in here saying "MICHIGAN FOR NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP". Don't forget that you changed your signature and avater based on michigan's disappointing season. Before the season you went on and on about how Michigan is going to crush every team this year on route to a national championship. All i am saying with this post is that michigan is overrated this year and that is ovious with their first 4 games this season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redwings1914 18 Report post Posted September 25, 2005 In two losses they have had two touchdowns not credited...and that would have been the difference. I was pissed early in tonight's game...Michigan intercepts the ball? it's a completion. Michigan recovers a fumble? Fumble never happened. Michigan player gets into the end zone? Stopped at the one. Even the TD call can go the way it did..but the others were huge--instead of getting a fumble recovery on the Wisc 30, they got a punt return on the Mich 5. Still, wasn't as bad as the ND missed touchdown. That one basically decided the game. sounds to me like just sour grapes. You can't say s**t until we play each other.......... if MSU wins next week, you have my permission to say all the crap you wanna say....... but for now, take it down a notch.........everybody has a opinion, just cause it isn't the same as yours, it doesn't mean that your right or wrong. whoa. take it down a notch?? I can't talk crap unless the spartans win on saturday?? Even if michigan wins, the spartans still have a better overall record than michigan. If Michigan was 4-0 and steamrollering their opponents and Michigan State was 2-2 looking lackluster, you would be all up in here saying "MICHIGAN FOR NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP". Don't forget that you changed your signature and avater based on michigan's disappointing season. Before the season you went on and on about how Michigan is going to crush every team this year on route to a national championship. All i am saying with this post is that michigan is overrated this year and that is ovious with their first 4 games this season. Me, My Dad and Some of my friends were talking about this last night coming back from Homecoming.......... Michigan was VERY overrated..........however I think that Hart's injury is a factor. (Not using that as a excuse, but if he played we probably would have beaten Wisconsin last night.) They should be steamrolling teams..............thats the coaches fault, not the players.......(manningham and Avant had 100+ recieving yards last night, something that hadn't happened in 20 years.) and as for the talking crap point............that wasn't pointed towards you.....it was to all the people who are saying that MSU is the better team, nobody will know that until 3ish saturday. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlakChamber 8 Report post Posted September 25, 2005 Don't forget that you changed your signature and avater based on michigan's disappointing season. Before the season you went on and on about how Michigan is going to crush every team this year on route to a national championship. Don't you love how fast he changed his avatar and signature? I bet it was changed by half-time at of the ND game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
timothy1997 0 Report post Posted September 25, 2005 In two losses they have had two touchdowns not credited...and that would have been the difference. I was pissed early in tonight's game...Michigan intercepts the ball? it's a completion. Michigan recovers a fumble? Fumble never happened. Michigan player gets into the end zone? Stopped at the one. Even the TD call can go the way it did..but the others were huge--instead of getting a fumble recovery on the Wisc 30, they got a punt return on the Mich 5. Still, wasn't as bad as the ND missed touchdown. That one basically decided the game. sounds to me like just sour grapes. You can't say s**t until we play each other.......... if MSU wins next week, you have my permission to say all the crap you wanna say....... but for now, take it down a notch.........everybody has a opinion, just cause it isn't the same as yours, it doesn't mean that your right or wrong. whoa. take it down a notch?? I can't talk crap unless the spartans win on saturday?? Even if michigan wins, the spartans still have a better overall record than michigan. If Michigan was 4-0 and steamrollering their opponents and Michigan State was 2-2 looking lackluster, you would be all up in here saying "MICHIGAN FOR NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP". Don't forget that you changed your signature and avater based on michigan's disappointing season. Before the season you went on and on about how Michigan is going to crush every team this year on route to a national championship. All i am saying with this post is that michigan is overrated this year and that is ovious with their first 4 games this season. Me, My Dad and Some of my friends were talking about this last night coming back from Homecoming.......... Michigan was VERY overrated..........however I think that Hart's injury is a factor. (Not using that as a excuse, but if he played we probably would have beaten Wisconsin last night.) They should be steamrolling teams..............thats the coaches fault, not the players.......(manningham and Avant had 100+ recieving yards last night, something that hadn't happened in 20 years.) and as for the talking crap point............that wasn't pointed towards you.....it was to all the people who are saying that MSU is the better team, nobody will know that until 3ish saturday. don't forget that you also don't have braylon edwards. A superstar receiver helped henne and hart last year. Perhaps Henne is not as good as once thought of after last year's season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites