Guest Shoreline Report post Posted June 13, 2007 (edited) Wikipedia is an encyclopedia that anyone, anywhere around the world can edit, so you know you're getting the absolute best information. That's why, just like in English papers, nobody gives an article credit unless it cites sources. If an article in Wiki doesn't cite, it most often gets a flag saying it has unreliable information. In most cases, Wikipedia is a very reliable source. More reliable than a significant amount of others. Edited June 13, 2007 by Shoreline Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ColdWarrior 0 Report post Posted June 13, 2007 These awards are for the REGULAR season, hence why voting is done shortly after the reg season ends. Lids hopefully will win it, yet again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StevieY9802 6 Report post Posted June 13, 2007 I hope Lidstrom wins it and think he should. But as for wiki I could go in there and change it to say Brett Lebda won the Norris if I wanted. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest GordieSid&Ted Report post Posted June 13, 2007 I hope Lidstrom wins it and think he should. But as for wiki I could go in there and change it to say Brett Lebda won the Norris if I wanted. IMO this is going to be the closest vote ever. You look at what these guys meant to their respective teams, look at their great offensive numbers and how much ice time they ate up and all of it is basically a wash. Statistically they're all right there with Pronger probably beating Nieds had he played a full season. With that being said the only other number that differentiates these 3 is there +/-. My hope is that the people who vote for this stuff realize that its not best offensive defenseman but best overall defenseman and when Nieds and Prongs combine for a +33 and Lidstrom is a +40 all by himself, this ought to be a slam dunk Norris #5 for #5. The playoffs won't factor into this and yes the Ducks won, but Lidstrom was unbelievable and his 18 points was like 4th in the entire playoffs and he didn't even get to the 4th round. Hands down Lidstrom. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Majsheppard 203 Report post Posted June 13, 2007 In some thread earlier in the year I pointed out that during a very un-Lidstrom streak where he was getting -3 type games his numbers slipped in a manner that took him from a sure norris winner to a toss up between him and Scott. It was at the end of the year, so that usually would be what they decide with. I thought Lids lost it at the end of the year, but overall over the whole year/career he is better then anyone else in the league today. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedRockit 0 Report post Posted June 13, 2007 In some thread earlier in the year I pointed out that during a very un-Lidstrom streak where he was getting -3 type games his numbers slipped in a manner that took him from a sure norris winner to a toss up between him and Scott. It was at the end of the year, so that usually would be what they decide with. I thought Lids lost it at the end of the year, but overall over the whole year/career he is better then anyone else in the league today. thanks for the honest asessment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BringHomeTheCup! 0 Report post Posted June 14, 2007 You are correct that Lidstrom has yet to win this year's Norris. You are incorrect in saying Chelios is not the first recipient of the season-end Messier award. Nope, I was correct, Cheli has wasn't the first winner of the MMLA, in fact, he has never won it. He did with the Yearly Leadership award. Two different things. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted June 15, 2007 Nope, I was correct, Cheli has wasn't the first winner of the MMLA, in fact, he has never won it. He did with the Yearly Leadership award. Two different things. Maybe you don't understand how the Messier award works. There is a monthly award, and a yearly award. Shanahan, Niedermayer, Crosby, Lecavalier, and Luongo were monthly recipients this year. Chelios was the yearly recipient. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites