Doan requests trade ?

[Heaton 1]

Doan is easily worth the 5 year 23 million extension he signed. Roughly 4 and half mill a year...how is that breaking the bank? He is EXACTLY what this team needs....fits the criteria to a tee! Obviously Zetterberg and Datsyuk arent going anywhere, but there is nothing else in the organization that shouldnt be given up to make this happen.

Pretty sure in this situation break the bank means overpay in terms of trading assets.

Shane Doan isn't coming over for a Forsberg package of last year, it'll be much, much more.

[omnipotent_hudler 0]

I like Kronvall. I would trade him for Doan.

I like Filpulla. I would trade him for Doan. ( Though a deep depression would likely follow. This kid has major potential.)

I like Sammy(Oh nos, someone likes Sammy!). I would trade him for Doan.

I like Hudler. I would trade him for Doan.

Off limits in my mind:

Datsyuk. Zetterberg. Holmstrom.

There is no reason to trade reliable scoring like these 3 for someone who hasn't yet proved he can fit in our system.

For those concerned about trading Kronner... Our defense will be fine. Quincy can take over if Meech sucks, and both Kindl and Ericcson are about a year away from the NHL.

If Doan really wanted a trade than Yzerman would have some leverage in bringing him here. I just don't see how the guy would all of a sudden want a trade though.

[flwingsfan07 0]

trade away dat or zata, no way. wait to see who pops up during free agency..we are fine besides lilja on defense

[skacore 2]

I can't even imagine if we got Doan, that would be amazing, I'm all for trading anyone in the system aside from Datsyuk, Zetterberg, and Lidstrom. If we could run a second line of Franzen-Filppula-Doan and they got a cycle going? That could really work out for us. Even if we did have to include Kronwall I would take it in a heartbeat, with the D prospects we have we can easily afford to lose Kronwall. I'm a big fan of Quincey and believe he could play in the top 4 easily, and we got Ericsson/Kindl in a couple of years. Markov would be welcomed aswell

[Lou_Siffer 1]

Pretty sure in this situation break the bank means overpay in terms of trading assets.

Shane Doan isn't coming over for a Forsberg package of last year, it'll be much, much more.

True, but the fact that you have an oppurtunity to get a guy like this for what is a bargain salary in today's market for 5 years....you have to be willing to part with whatever it takes. With Zetterberg's extension coming in the future, theyre not going to get anybody who can have this type of impact in free agency. Im not so sure they go for Kronwall, as he still really hasnt shown that he's worth his deal. For that reason his trade value isnt as high as alot of people think imo. Also the fact so many people here are willing to give him up is evidence of that! Its still fairly high, but not what it once was. But guys like Filppula and Kindl? Peace out as far as im concerned.

Edited October 17, 2007 by Lou_Siffer

[Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204]

Ok, lets say NN's deal works and it's something like Sammy and Kronwall and a low pick for Doan, and then we sign Markov.

Zetterberg-Datsyuk-Doan

Franzen-Filpula-Holmstrom

Maltby-Draper-Cleary

Drake-Ellis-Downey/Kopecky/Hudler

Lidstrom-Markov

Rafalski-Quincey

Lebda-Chelios

I like those

[Lou_Siffer 1]

Phoenix is not going to take Sammy and Kronwall. Theyre going to get a ton of offers, its hard to think thats the best they could do. I think we need to forget about Sammy, if Phoenix is dumping Doan they are in absolute 100% total rebuild mode...which they are now but they'll officially have no hope on the year! They'll want multiple young guys with potential for Doan.. Sammy doesnt qualify. If he were to go in the deal, it would basically be like Atlanta throwing in Metropolit in the Tkachuk trade. Obviously Sammy is better than him, but point being he'd just be a body going the other way and has no real impact on the trade. They're still going to want the same caliber of prospects whether or not he's included.

[Lollipop 8]

I don't think trading Kronner for him would be a good deal at all...I have faith that Kronner will come around. I'd actually be pretty unwilling to trade anyone for Doan.

Ok, lets say NN's deal works and it's something like Sammy and Kronwall and a low pick for Doan, and then we sign Markov.

Zetterberg-Datsyuk-Doan

Franzen-Filpula-Holmstrom

Maltby-Draper-Cleary

Drake-Ellis-Downey/Kopecky/Hudler

Lidstrom-Markov

Rafalski-Quincey

Lebda-Chelios

I like those

Umm...breaking up Holmstrom from either Datsyuk or Zetterberg is a bad idea, imo.

[Lou_Siffer 1]

I don't think trading Kronner for him would be a good deal at all...I have faith that Kronner will come around. I'd actually be pretty unwilling to trade anyone for Doan.

In that case Lollipop, you're a dum dum.

only kidding of course

[Yzerfan1999 81]

Is there even a source for this rumour?

He was said to be going somewhere at the trade deadline but got a contract extension with the 'Yotes instead.

Gretzky has said repeatedly that they will build from within their own system around their current top players and draft picks. I would be REALLY surprised if Doan went anywhere. Why would they sign him to a big contract through 2013 if they had any desire to trade him. This team is in the same position last year at the deadline as they are right now. They are slowly trying to rebuild around him with young players.

Don't get your hopes up.

[scotvm 0]

Trade Kronner for Doan and sign Markov.

Brilliant :!: :!: :!: send your resume into the front office, thats damn good thinking. not sure how it would work finacially but whatever

[Lou_Siffer 1]

Is there even a source for this rumour?

He was said to be going somewhere at the trade deadline but got a contract extension with the 'Yotes instead.

Gretzky has said repeatedly that they will build from within their own system around their current top players and draft picks. I would be REALLY surprised if Doan went anywhere. Why would they sign him to a big contract through 2013 if they had any desire to trade him. This team is in the same position last year at the deadline as they are right now. They are slowly trying to rebuild around him with young players.

Don't get your hopes up.

I agree the rumor seems real fishy, but in regards to the bolded part....what would fetch them more in return: Doan as a rental soon to be free agent? Or Doan signed to a very reasonable 5 year contract? Definitely the latter.

[Kp-Wings 3]

I agree the rumor seems real fishy, but in regards to the bolded part....what would fetch them more in return: Doan as a rental soon to be free agent? Or Doan signed to a very reasonable 5 year contract? Definitely the latter.

So you think he signed that contract with the intention of being traded next season, and staying somewhere long term?

I like the way you think. It'd be great if that was true.

[omnipotent_hudler 0]

I would be REALLY surprised if Doan went anywhere. Why would they sign him to a big contract through 2013 if they had any desire to trade him. This team is in the same position last year at the deadline as they are right now. They are slowly trying to rebuild around him with young players.

I agree, I don't see him going anywhere. However the rumor is that HE is unhappy with the direction that the team is going, so the it isn't as if the 'Yotes signed him to that contract with the desire of trading him. If anything its that he's unhappy all of a sudden. I can kind of see his position; he's 30 years old and has played for the same team his entire career.. Perhaps hes a bit frustrated by the lack of success.

Its all just speculation. I think we're all just salivating at the thought of an actual winger on these team... God, our offense is all centers..

Datsyuk

Zetterberg

Franzen

Filp

Hudler

Cleary(natural center)

Draper

Kopecky

Ellis

Its nice to be decent in the circle with that many centers available, but that's just ridiculous.

[Lou_Siffer 1]

So you think he signed that contract with the intention of being traded next season, and staying somewhere long term?

I like the way you think. It'd be great if that was true.

You never know! Maybe he was unsure of whether he wanted to leave and figured he'd see what the team looked like after the offseason and camp. So he signed a very reasonable contract so it'd be a piece of cake for them to move him. For Phoenix worst case scenario is they keep him and they continue to have a face to their organization to build around. Best case, some team opens up the farm for him and they make out big time by getting multiple players for him to help their rebuilding effort.

[Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204]

Well, I dont know why Doan would want to stay there, Phoenix wont win a cup until long after Shane has retired. That's why I think it's possible he may want out.

[HenryMalredo 2]

True, but the fact that you have an oppurtunity to get a guy like this for what is a bargain salary in today's market for 5 years....you have to be willing to part with whatever it takes. With Zetterberg's extension coming in the future, theyre not going to get anybody who can have this type of impact in free agency. Im not so sure they go for Kronwall, as he still really hasnt shown that he's worth his deal. For that reason his trade value isnt as high as alot of people think imo. Also the fact so many people here are willing to give him up is evidence of that! Its still fairly high, but not what it once was. But guys like Filppula and Kindl? Peace out as far as im concerned.

I'm not sure if I'd call that a bargain salary. I wouldn't mind Doan, but thats quite a commitment in both salary and years for a second line winger.

[Kp-Wings 3]

I'm not sure if I'd call that a bargain salary. I wouldn't mind Doan, but thats quite a commitment in both salary and years for a second line winger.

When you compare it to some of the current salaries in today's NHL, and given Doan's scoring/physical package, he is a bargin.

He's only scored 30 goals once, but seriously keep in mind of who he's been playing with his whole career. The only time he's had a true top line player playing with him was in the early 90's with Keith Tkachuk, but Doan was still young then and wasn't playing with Tkachuk. Other then that, the Coyotes have never had any true top line talent, especially not on the level of guys like Zetterberg.

I'd be willing to give up whatever it takes to get Doan on this team, with the exception of guys like Zetterberg, of course. But as far as prospects go, like Kindl or Filppula, hey so be it. Doan is the type of player that's been missing from this lineup dating back to even before the lockout. We really need a player like him.

[Guest DetroitIan]

Im sure it's not gonna happen. But Doan would be a pretty sweet score. Im not sure how much he's commanding right now, but he's just a damn good hockey player. Im sure a change of scenery will be great for this guy.

[Hank 0]

news to me,..personally i'd love doan in wings uni.

And he hasn't scored more than 30 because of the people around him, get Pavel or Z setting him up and poof.

In fact i've said for three years this team was one dominate RW away from a stanley cup, we get doan,....break out the sliver polish

Absolutely. Does anyone think that Cheechoo would be a 50 goal scorer without Big Joe? If you put Doan in SJ and Cheech in Phx their numbers would be reversed.

Doan with Dats or Zetts would be awesome.

But, like someone else already pointed out, I highly doubt we have enough goods to grab Doan. They'd want a hefty penny for his services and I wouldn't blame them. He hits, fights and has 40 goal talent when paired with the right guy. I don't know any other teams that would like that combo.

Well, I dont know why Doan would want to stay there, Phoenix wont win a cup until long after Shane has retired. That's why I think it's possible he may want out.

And Phoenix isn't exactly a hockey hotbed. He once was quoted saying that before he retires he'd love to play in a great hockey market.

If that's true, I'm still not sure why he resigned with the 'dogs.

Edited October 17, 2007 by Hank

[DEVILSWATERBOY 10]

Give them Filppula, Kronwall, and a draftpick, see if they go for it.

? Flip and Kron are you nuts maybe Sam/ Lilla puss and a pick

[Opie 308]

Odds are they are going to want talented prospects, Kindl or the like.

Maybe the wings should see if they will bite on a Grigs and Kindl package!

[Henkka 0]

Doan at Wings would be my dream come true. He could make almost same affect like Shanny trade at 1996.

Big, gritty, physical forward with right handed shot and can play 1st line minutes.

The Yotes don't want anything old and s***ty like Lilja or Sammy on that deal. they want prospects or younger guys to rebuild.

I also like Kronwall and Filppula, but if we can get Doan, a star player at his prime age, I'd do that trade in a heartbeat. We want to win the Cup and then developing young players comes just second primary thing.

Kronwall, Filppula (rather Hudler, but I doubt they'd want him), McGrath + 1st rounder for Doan.

I think Yotes would want Kronwall, so they can trade Jovocop somewhere in same kind of deal, maybe to Rangers. Rangers have a lot of prospects to get Jovo.

In my trade scenario, I'd also sign Markov after losing Kronwall. Then I'd sign Forsberg, if he would fit under the cap.

Dats - Zetts - Doan

Homer - Foppa - Sammy

Franzen - Draper - Cleary

Drake - Kopecky - Maltby

(Hudler, Ellis)

Lidström - Markov

Lilja - Rafalski

Lebda - Chelios

(Meech)

Hasek

Ozzie

Quite nice gritty adds. One thing also to make would be trading Lilja somewhere to make cap room and bring Ericsson up straight away.

Edited October 17, 2007 by Henkka

[Hank 0]

? Flip and Kron are you nuts maybe Sam/ Lilla puss and a pick

But that's the kind of package it would take to yank Doan from Phoenix.

One or a collection of the following players would be needed to get him:

Filpulla, Kronner, Howard, Girgs, Hudler, Ericsson, Quincy, Lebda, Smith, draft pics.

Sammy/Lilja and a pick would get us a coupon for a Big Mac, not Doan.

EDIT: And I guarentee you if we did somehow land Doan, Babcock would not put our 3 best players together. The whole purpose of getting him is to give us more depth. Dats and Zetts would be separated immediately.

Edited October 17, 2007 by Hank

[VM1138 1,921]

Especially this early in the season when a lot of the usual takers likely don' thave the money available for him. We do.

And suddenly Holland not breaking the bank with free agents over the summer makes sense.

At first I thought this was a pipe dream, but if he really is looking for a trade, I think it'd be hard for him to say no. Especially if you have Scotty Bowman and Steve Yzerman convincing you to come to a great hockey city that is one of the most likely to make it to the Finals this season. Especially when part of the attraction is to his ego, saying HE is the missing piece. That's a huge attraction for a player frustrated with a team.

The only thing that works against us is he may be possibly looking to resurrect a team, much like he attempted in Phoenix. Just a better crappy team.