Can we beat 95-96 Regular Season?

[Turkey 0]

I'd love to see the Wings beat or at least come very close to beating this record for the simple reason that it would make the concrete statement that, even though this is a completely different team than the 90s Wings or even the Wings of '02, it is just as good.

I guess I'd see it as a passing of the torch. With a few remaining holdovers in Lidstrom, Draper, Maltby, Holmstrom, and Osgood, what we have here is a totally new team. I'd like to see them rivaling the achievements of their predecessors.

[sergei_is_still_a_wing 1]

i would like to see the wings go anti-patriots and call up 20 guys from GR as soon as they clinch home ice.

we dont need zetts back on the line to get that 133rd point. lets get rest and win lord stanley's jug.

[GMRwings1983 8,804]

Thanks for the info guys. That just proves my point, because the '77 team had 12 ties, so imagine what they could have done with those 12 ties if there was overtime and a shootout. I just don't see how anyone can say it doesn't make a difference.

[imisssergei 0]

I think you simply need to deal with the fact that it really wouldn't be comparable. It's way more cut and dry than the example of saying Gretzky played in the high flying 80's with weak goalies.....and just for the record, lots of people look at his stats differently because of it.

Should they beat either, it sure as hell would be tainted since for each SO win they get, they would be getting 1 more win and 1 more point than they would have in the past, it really isn't that obscure of a thing to analyze. So far this year, they have 4 SO wins I believe, so that is 4 more wins and 4 more points than they would have had before.

Also, the 70's Montreal team only played 80 games, so if they beat their point total in 82 games, that wouldn't be comparable either.

In response though, it is highly unlikely that they will reach either. You have to think they will slow down a little as the seasn wears on and even currently, they are not on pace to break either.

So using your logic, the Patriots undefeated regular season means more than the Dolphins?

Tom Brady said it best, it's not the 16 that's important, it's the 0. In this case, it wouldn't be the number of games played, it's the total points.

[imisssergei 0]

There's a difference between comparing different styles to different rules. As someone else posted, the Wings have 4 shootout wins, which they wouldn't have had in '96. Who knows how many wins that '96 team would have had if there were shootouts back then? Also, does anyone know if there was even overtime back in '77 when the Habs had that great team?

No there isn't any difference. You could argue that in '96 the Wings would simply have pressed harder to win in OT. Or that this Wings team is sitting back in OT because they are confident with their odds in the shootout.

The bottom line is it doesn't matter. If this years team wins 63 games, they will go down in the history books as the team with the most regular season wins.

[Guest LivingtheDream]

I would rather the Wings beat their 95-96' playoff record.

Amen to that! If one leads to the other, then okay, otherwise it means just about nothing.

[Guest jaytan]

I know it is very early but when we are on a roll I get excited.

Do you guys think we can beat our 95-96 record for most wins in one season? We had 62 wins...

Considering what that particular team did in the playoffs, why would you want history to repeat itself?

[Guest jaytan]

I'd love to see the Wings beat or at least come very close to beating this record for the simple reason that it would make the concrete statement that, even though this is a completely different team than the 90s Wings or even the Wings of '02, it is just as good.

No it wouldn't, and no they aren't anywhere near as good.

To be compared to the teams from the previous era of Red Wing hockey, these guys have to win in the playoffs, win against better competition and clearly dominate.

[zaxx 0]

Considering what that particular team did in the playoffs, why would you want history to repeat itself?

I did not mention the playoffs and I do not want history to repeat there. Draper does not need to get hit from behind again and we do not need to get injured out of the playoffs. I am just suggesting that a fun way to finish this great regular season would be to press against our 95-96 record.

For the record though Colorado should have never won in those Conference Finals. Detroit was the better team and if it not for old cheap shot Claude we would have won.

However I say the same thing about the Ducks last year, the goal that was counted when Hasek was pushed into the net to give the Ducks the chance to win the game in O/T should have never counted. I say if we can use video replay to determine if Crosby kicked the puck in then we can use video replay to determine if Rob Nedermier pushed Hasek into the net. Stupid rules got it wrong!

Oh man now I am way off topic in my own thread how embarrassing....

[imisssergei 0]

I did not mention the playoffs and I do not want history to repeat there. Draper does not need to get hit from behind again and we do not need to get injured out of the playoffs. I am just suggesting that a fun way to finish this great regular season would be to press against our 95-96 record.

For the record though Colorado should have never won in those Conference Finals. Detroit was the better team and if it not for old cheap shot Claude we would have won.

However I say the same thing about the Ducks last year, the goal that was counted when Hasek was pushed into the net to give the Ducks the chance to win the game in O/T should have never counted. I say if we can use video replay to determine if Crosby kicked the puck in then we can use video replay to determine if Rob Nedermier pushed Hasek into the net. Stupid rules got it wrong!

Oh man now I am way off topic in my own thread how embarrassing....

Come on, let old demons rest. Having Draper would not have turned that series around. If anything, that should have motivated the Wings to play at a higher level. Colorado was the better team in the playoffs, which is all that matters.

[Must Kill 0]

its crossed my mind a couple times but in my opinion is if we break it and head into the playoffs and leave without a stanley cup isnt the season pretty much a loss.

[toby91_ca 620]

So using your logic, the Patriots undefeated regular season means more than the Dolphins?

Tom Brady said it best, it's not the 16 that's important, it's the 0. In this case, it wouldn't be the number of games played, it's the total points.

I'm not sure how what I said translates in anyway to Patriots vs. Dolphins.

If you don't see the plain as day, simple difference between the comparison, I'm not sure I can help ya. How can you really ignore the number of games played?? Think about it, let's assume a team has a record of 65-15-0 in an 80 game schedule, giving them 130pts. Now, let's assume a team has a record of 65-16-1 in an 82 game schedule, giving them 131pts. In that scenario, the team playing 82 games would have the record for most points, but how can you not consider that record just a little tainted?

[imisssergei 0]

I'm not sure how what I said translates in anyway to Patriots vs. Dolphins.

If you don't see the plain as day, simple difference between the comparison, I'm not sure I can help ya. How can you really ignore the number of games played?? Think about it, let's assume a team has a record of 65-15-0 in an 80 game schedule, giving them 130pts. Now, let's assume a team has a record of 65-16-1 in an 82 game schedule, giving them 131pts. In that scenario, the team playing 82 games would have the record for most points, but how can you not consider that record just a little tainted?

To me, a tainted record would be so due to something in the direct control of the record setter. Example: Use of preformance enhancing drugs. Something like the number of games played makes no different. Again, it's like comparing eras, you can't do it with any real accuracy.

[toby91_ca 620]

To me, a tainted record would be so due to something in the direct control of the record setter. Example: Use of preformance enhancing drugs. Something like the number of games played makes no different. Again, it's like comparing eras, you can't do it with any real accuracy.

I suppose the use of the word "tainted" wasn't good, but you still need to look at it a little differently. Think about it this way, the league used to only play 50 games. If a team back then went 49-1, they would have finished with 98 points. In todays game, if a team goes 49-32-1, they would finish with 99 points. Yes, the team with 99 points would have the record for most points, but if you ask me, there is no question which team had the best season.

[Opie 308]

I wouldn't say their record will be tainted, but with the new OT and SO point structure I would have to say that in my eyes the only way to beat the record is to win more games. Point total is thrown out of the window when comparing the two teams due to the point scoring structure being so vastly different.

But hey what do I know?!