TheWestWing 71 Report post Posted February 6, 2008 For the first time in a long time, I really think we're pretty solid and dont need to make much of an adjustment if any to augment a playoff roster. Granted that April is the second season and not much counts till then, but I'm 'comfortabale' that the current bunch can take us as deep as they can (assuming they show up every nite). Matts, Floppa, whomever - sure, we're always lacking a tad in 'grit' (not that those two are gritty) but gosh darn, we lead in a plethora of offensive and defensive stats, not to mention the host of candidates for post-season awards (Norris, Selke (which for the past 18 months I think should have gone to Hank tho now the case is being made for Dats), split the Vezina (hehe), take ur pick for Hart, and the Lady Byng (tho 2 penalities in the same period last nite may skew Dats' chances). I know you always want to see you roster made better, but (with the sounds of Mavis Staples singing 'I'll Take You There' in the background - listen up Wings Marketing Dept - no lameass slogans this year - 'think' of a good one!), what we have should get us deep into May. It's almost like I'm gonna be watching the ticker and will probaly cringe if we actually make a trade. Course then I'm sure I'll be here singing its praises (and lamenting on whom we traded for has the potential to be lazy and sucky.....). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zion 93 Report post Posted February 6, 2008 We need depth on defense and more offense from Huds and Flip. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted February 6, 2008 What happens if we lose 2 of our top-4 Dmen after the deadline like last year? Sure everything looks fine right now, but there's no reason not to bolster your lineup given the grind of the postseason (especially in the Western Conference). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grittzkey 1 Report post Posted February 6, 2008 Your right, the injury bug hasnt hit us at all this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PROBIE4PREZ 58 Report post Posted February 6, 2008 So it's pretty obvious we need defensive depth ... who's even available for picks or prospects? marek malik brad stuart rob blake Aaron Ward brain campbell Adam foote Mike Commadore joe corvo Jovo Cop dan boyle anyone on the leafs d core i doubt a couple of those names would go for prospects n picks but who knows who or what kenny is goin to give up.. Huds Ellis Sammy ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IceMunkee 15 Report post Posted February 6, 2008 For the first time in a long time, I really think we're pretty solid and dont need to make much of an adjustment if any to augment a playoff roster. Granted that April is the second season and not much counts till then, but I'm 'comfortabale' that the current bunch can take us as deep as they can (assuming they show up every nite). Matts, Floppa, whomever - sure, we're always lacking a tad in 'grit' (not that those two are gritty) but gosh darn, we lead in a plethora of offensive and defensive stats, not to mention the host of candidates for post-season awards (Norris, Selke (which for the past 18 months I think should have gone to Hank tho now the case is being made for Dats), split the Vezina (hehe), take ur pick for Hart, and the Lady Byng (tho 2 penalities in the same period last nite may skew Dats' chances). I know you always want to see you roster made better, but (with the sounds of Mavis Staples singing 'I'll Take You There' in the background - listen up Wings Marketing Dept - no lameass slogans this year - 'think' of a good one!), what we have should get us deep into May. It's almost like I'm gonna be watching the ticker and will probaly cringe if we actually make a trade. Course then I'm sure I'll be here singing its praises (and lamenting on whom we traded for has the potential to be lazy and sucky.....). This type of thinking will only get us this far! We want to go into June. I definitly think it cannot hurt to sign some depth we have the cap space and if we did not spend to limit then, as fans, we should be pissed. That to me says that the brass doesn't care to much. Luckily we already know that is not the case. With our names being thrown in to many of the top trades. Although I don't want to sign someone to a ridiculous contract. Right now Kronner is out (big surprise), Zeta has been in and out a few times. Homer, Draper, Maltby, Drake, Lebda. Are a few of the injuries we have endured this season. People like Draper and Maltby seldom go out just shows that s*** happens! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,232 Report post Posted February 6, 2008 REGULAR SEASON =/= POSTSEASON Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungGuns1340 1 Report post Posted February 6, 2008 REGULAR SEASON =/= POSTSEASON Thank you. We may be able to take on anyone in the league, but what happens when/if Anaheim adds Sundin? Montreal adds Hossa? San Jose adds Blake? Dallas adds Jokinen?? The list could (and will) go on and on. What happens if/when we lose a couple key players? Maybe we only add a Dman, but this year Homer and Hank go down. Can we win the cup with really only one bona fide top sixer to carry us there? Our entire second line of Cleary, Flip, and Hudler have never proved throughtout their NHL careers - however short - that they can be consistent performers. Who knows how long Lids and Cheli can play at this level, and who knows how well Osgood and Howard are going to work out as a tandem next year. The window of opportunity - the Wings best opportunity - to win a cup is THIS YEAR. Honestly, Id rather see a cup this spring than have a couple extra prospects in the barn.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
egroen 384 Report post Posted February 6, 2008 I'd prefer a deadline deal similar to last year -- low risk / high reward. Didn't work out so well last year, but it could. Forsberg is typified by this - we only give up cap space. Perhaps Fedorov and Blake could come cheaper now that there are injury issues? Maybe Markov could be lured away from Russia? These are things I hope Holland is considering. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nev 1,085 Report post Posted February 6, 2008 but gosh darn, we lead in a plethora of offensive and defensive stats, not to mention the host of candidates for post-season awards Irrellevant. Have the past 15 years taught us nothing? Regular season dominance does not mean post-season success. Right now the wings are a real good team, coached by a real good coach who knows how to coach playoff hockey. But this team is still 2 or 3 players short of having a playoff roster. We need more guts, more grit, more toughness, more desire. Another 3 or 4 Dan Cleary's would be brilliant. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dano33 41 Report post Posted February 6, 2008 Thank you. We may be able to take on anyone in the league, but what happens when/if Anaheim adds Sundin? Montreal adds Hossa? San Jose adds Blake? Dallas adds Jokinen?? The list could (and will) go on and on. What happens if/when we lose a couple key players? Maybe we only add a Dman, but this year Homer and Hank go down. Can we win the cup with really only one bona fide top sixer to carry us there? Our entire second line of Cleary, Flip, and Hudler have never proved throughtout their NHL careers - however short - that they can be consistent performers. Who knows how long Lids and Cheli can play at this level, and who knows how well Osgood and Howard are going to work out as a tandem next year. The window of opportunity - the Wings best opportunity - to win a cup is THIS YEAR. Honestly, Id rather see a cup this spring than have a couple extra prospects in the barn.. Exactly, there is too much worry about the future around here. If we save for the future the goal is to win a cup, right? well, why can't we worry about winning the cup this year, and when its over, think about next year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
egroen 384 Report post Posted February 6, 2008 Sorry, too many of us remember the "Dead Things" era to not think about the future. The Red Wings won the cup 3 times in those 15 years of being "real good". I'll take that any day for continued "real goodness" -- as opposed to an all-or-nothing-go-for-it mentality. Too many Stanley Cup winners lately are going on to not make the playoffs the next year, nowadays. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Opie 308 Report post Posted February 6, 2008 What happens if we lose 2 of our top-4 Dmen after the deadline like last year? Sure everything looks fine right now, but there's no reason not to bolster your lineup given the grind of the postseason (especially in the Western Conference). I hate to tell you NFM but if any combination of Nick, Ralf, Cheli go down this team will not win the cup unless they have another legit #1/2 d-man on the roster. That would entail trading for Blake or Foote which would create a huge void somewhere else namely on offense or talented youth that is currently on the roster. All of this given up for one year of service would lead to exactly what egroen refered to here: Sorry, too many of us remember the "Dead Things" era to not think about the future. The Red Wings won the cup 3 times in those 15 years of being "real good". I'll take that any day for continued "real goodness" -- as opposed to an all-or-nothing-go-for-it mentality. Too many Stanley Cup winners lately are going on to not make the playoffs the next year, nowadays. If Nick goes down you can almost kiss the cup goodbye. The two injuries suffered last year, and I would place most of the emphasis on Schneids (due to pp concerns that bit this team in the ass in the WCF), severely cost this team. You can not afford to carry 4-5 legit top 2 d-men on your team anymore. The salary cap has and will continue to prevent that (unless a couple of them are young stud d-men like Phanuef and are still on rookie contracts) so the argument that this team has to prepare for two top 3 injuries is similar to saying that 2 of the top 4 forwards getting hurt. Do you really think if Dats/Homer, Z/Flip, Dats/Flip, Z/Homer, were out injured that the wings are still the favorite to win. Not saying some how they couldn't pull it off, crazier things have happened. But you get my point. A depth addition would be #4-6 d-man and a # 5-9 winger. And still adding for depth would not cover up the whole left if Lids went down. Trading in case injury hits will only put the wings in a bad spot. IMO>Trading should be done to fix a weakness or to improve yourself for Playoff hockey, meaning getting someone to step in when your enforcer is a black ace for the playoffs, or adding a couple of 3rd liners so you can roll 4 lines. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jeremy88 Report post Posted February 6, 2008 1. How can you say anything about injuries? Any player could get injured. Trading one player for another changes nothing. Let's say we don't trade anyone, and Zetterberg's back gets really bad right before the playoffs and he's out, now you guys are crying we should have gotten more depth. Ok, now say we trade for Sundin. Let's say game 1 of first round Sundin gets checked hard into the wall and injures his shoulder. He's out for the playoffs. Well, that was really great to trade for him. My point is, any player can be injured, so to trade players because of potential injury is dumb. Although, if we trade Samuelsson...it doesn't matter what happens...as long as we trade him =) Aquiring a free agent would be cool...no trading and it adds depth. PS - This is what part of the alphabet would look like if Q and R were eliminated. PSS - I cannot wait til the trade deadline is over so all the trade possibilities are done with. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MacK_Attack 108 Report post Posted February 6, 2008 (edited) If you want a solid guy who can help out on the PK and the #3 pairing, Hal Gill is your guy. Plus, he's not a rental. Edited February 6, 2008 by MacK_Attack Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
