rick zombo 3,739 Report post Posted February 27, 2008 I agree with you, but under certain circumstances only. Detroit is in a special situation, up until July 1st, 2008, as I think the Red Wings will already have a deal in place for Zetterberg at the first moment hes eligible to re-sign. At that point, the majority of our cornerstones will either 1) be locked up for a good 3 more years (Zetterberg, Rafalski, Datsyuk, Kronwall, and possibly Cleary) or 2) their paychecks are only going to be decreasing over the next few years from this point forward (Draper, Maltby, Lidstrom, and possibly Homer) Therefore, this idea of "carrying $5 million to the trade deadline" was an exception to the rule, not a new trend in Red Wings economics, as there were a couple things to consider at last years deadline: 1. Few players were willing to sign one year contracts, which were the only things Holland was willing to give out due to reasons mentioned above unless we were a) replacing a key player a la Rafalski for Schneider or b) that player was going to come on the cheap 2. The players that Detroit really needed to add - a #3/4 Dman and a 2nd line forward - were either in the minority, or overpaid. Really the only two players we could've signed that even now make sense looking back are Brad Stuart - who wanted to sign in California, pushing Detriot out of contention for his services and Mike Comrie - whom they probably chose not to sign because he would be taking valuable development minutes away from Flip, as they likely wouldve played that same 2nd line center position, and because hes had some glaring attitude issues in the past and I'm guessing probably wasn't a player Babcock was too high on adding to the squad. That's why, in my opinion, we won't be seeing this 5M in cap space at the deadline next year. Once July 2nd, 2008 rolls around, I expect Filppula, Cleary, and Zetterberg to be locked up, and possibly Lilja as well. If we have open spots due to Cleary and Lilja wanting to test the market on July 1st, then we'll likely see Detroit being big players, particularly for UFAs that they can sign for a good 3-5 years. I agree 100% with this post. I would also like to add that I think Brian Rolston will be signed by Detroit in July. He'll be the 4M dollar player. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungGuns1340 1 Report post Posted February 27, 2008 I agree 100% with this post. I would also like to add that I think Brian Rolston will be signed by Detroit in July. He'll be the 4M dollar player. Yup, I was thinking that too. Brian Rolston fits Detroit's requirements - great skater with speed and defensive awareness, and even more importantly he fits Detroit's needs - goal scorer, shooter first (with that incredible wrister) and good size. The fact that he's a Michigan native is an added bonus, and a marketable one at that. I would personally be very satisfied with a 2nd line of Cleary-Filppula-Rolston. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted February 27, 2008 I'd like to see Lilja dropped and Stuart re-signed. If we need another d-man, get Orpik, the guy is big and physical. Stuart at 2.5 or 3, and Orpik for 1.5 mil or 2. Samuelson, Hudler and Kopecky should be packaged and shipped off, even though Kenny wont, they should be. Re-sign Cleary to 2.5 like you said, and Filpula. Get Ryder for 2.25, Gratton for 1.25 and Avery for 2.25. Pavel Datsyuk $6.7m Henrik Zetterberg $2.65m Daniel Cleary $2.5m Tomas Holmstrom $2.25m Micheal Ryder $2.25m Sean Avery $2.25m Kris Draper $1.583m Valtteri Filppula $1.5m Chris Gratton $1.25m Johan Franzen $942k Kirk Maltby $883k Darren McCarty $550k Aaron Downey $550k Nicklas Lidstrom $7.45m Brian Rafalski $6m Niklas Kronwall $3m Brad Stuart $2.75m Brooks Orpik $1.5m Chris Chelios $1.1m Brett Lebda $650k Derek Meech $483k Chris Osgood $1.417m Jimmy Howard $900k That's what I'd like to see. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chrisdetroit 189 Report post Posted February 28, 2008 I'd like to see Lilja dropped and Stuart re-signed. If we need another d-man, get Orpik, the guy is big and physical. Stuart at 2.5 or 3, and Orpik for 1.5 mil or 2. Samuelson, Hudler and Kopecky should be packaged and shipped off, even though Kenny wont, they should be. Re-sign Cleary to 2.5 like you said, and Filpula. Get Ryder for 2.25, Gratton for 1.25 and Avery for 2.25. Pavel Datsyuk $6.7m Henrik Zetterberg $2.65m Daniel Cleary $2.5m Tomas Holmstrom $2.25m Micheal Ryder $2.25m Sean Avery $2.25m Kris Draper $1.583m Valtteri Filppula $1.5m Chris Gratton $1.25m Johan Franzen $942k Kirk Maltby $883k Darren McCarty $550k Aaron Downey $550k Nicklas Lidstrom $7.45m Brian Rafalski $6m Niklas Kronwall $3m Brad Stuart $2.75m Brooks Orpik $1.5m Chris Chelios $1.1m Brett Lebda $650k Derek Meech $483k Chris Osgood $1.417m Jimmy Howard $900k That's what I'd like to see. You forgot that Z will be a free agent and could easily get $8M. Cap space? what cap space? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted February 28, 2008 You forgot that Z will be a free agent and could easily get $8M. Cap space? what cap space? He'll be a free agent in 2 years.... in that time, Lidstrom will also be a UFA, and will probably take a cut. Kenny is good at contract negociations. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Son of a Wing 1,644 Report post Posted February 28, 2008 Next year would Quincey have to pass through waivers to be sent down or does he have one more year of eligibility? Furthermore, where on the web can you find this kinda info? Thanks in advance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Superman54 91 Report post Posted February 28, 2008 Rolston would be just sick to have here! Kenny.........................GET IT DONE!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Son of a Wing 1,644 Report post Posted February 28, 2008 Anybody able to answer my question from above? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Louisville 112 Report post Posted February 28, 2008 Please let Brian Rolston come here. Please please please. He would be an instant fan favorite. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Louisville 112 Report post Posted February 28, 2008 Yup, I was thinking that too. Brian Rolston fits Detroit's requirements - great skater with speed and defensive awareness, and even more importantly he fits Detroit's needs - goal scorer, shooter first (with that incredible wrister) and good size. The fact that he's a Michigan native is an added bonus, and a marketable one at that. I would personally be very satisfied with a 2nd line of Cleary-Filppula-Rolston. I think you mean incredible slap shot. I mean, how many NHL players take a slap shots in a shootout and actually score consistently? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
