Ovechkin's 60

[seeinred 1,488]

SIXTY!

Very nice goal by AO, you can tell he wants the playoffs so bad.

[Guest CaliWingsNut]

backstrom ties game @ 4min of 3rd 3-3

Edit: backstrom 4-3 caps 3:30 of 3rd

Edited March 22, 2008 by CaliWingsNut

[seeinred 1,488]

backstrom ties game @ 4min of 3rd 3-3

Quite the snipe by him, too.

[Guest CaliWingsNut]

5-3 Capitols final score... AO's sitting @ 60 now.

[DenJ91 0]

anyone still have a problem with ovechkin as mvp??? he just had a 4 pt night, 3 in the last 10 mins of the game to lead the caps to victory.

of course credit goes to mike green for starting that end to end rush and dishing it to backstrom for the 2nd goal which really sparked the team, then ovie getting the puck off the faceoff behind the net and passing out front to backstrom.

WOW!!!

edit: actually i think the green rush was on the caps tying goal, yeah then backstrom scored again to give them the lead. either way, just awesome.

Edited March 22, 2008 by DenJ91

[Doggy 130]

Ovechkin was very impressive tonight.

He really has been very good this year and I couldn't argue with him getting the Hart trophy.

[IceMunkee 15]

I think that he will get the Hart regardless if he deserves it or not. I think he is an amazing player, a lot like Gretzky. He is selfish, slightly greedy and has very active emotions. Personally someone that will demand the amount of money he did from the caps for so long definitly does not deserve the Hart. He has handicapped his team from being successful, and that is not a most valuable player to me...

But none the less he will get it because he is one of nine players that have achieved something great.

[schulzte 18]

Alexander Ovechkin is the MVP of the NHL this year and it isn't close. There is a 40+ point differential between he and his next teammate. He is +19 on a team that has given up more goals than it has scored. No one has score 60 goals in 12 seasons! This argument that a MVP must come from a playoff team is flawed. Just because the Caps might miss the playoffs means that Ovechkin is less valuable to his team? I don't buy that at all. Why not just make the Captain or highest scorer of the President's Trophy team automatically be league MVP every year if that is the case. Well, that would work for the Red Wings, but its a silly idea.

If the Caps missed the playoffs by 20 points, that would be one thing. But they are in the race thanks to Ovechkin, the 2008 NHL MVP.

[DenJ91 0]

I think that he will get the Hart regardless if he deserves it or not. I think he is an amazing player, a lot like Gretzky. He is selfish, slightly greedy and has very active emotions. Personally someone that will demand the amount of money he did from the caps for so long definitly does not deserve the Hart. He has handicapped his team from being successful, and that is not a most valuable player to me...

But none the less he will get it because he is one of nine players that have achieved something great.

ice munkee, usually you have some good things to say but this isn't one to remember. your worried about him having active celebrations?? it's so refreshing to see someone care that much even when someone else scores. i wish there were more like him celebrating like that. just him celebrating like that sparks the entire team, it rubs off and that's a bad thing? he's not handicapping the team, and it's not as if he "demanded" that money, it's what he's worth and i'm sure the caps were more than happy to lock him up. and also how are they not successful, they are 1 pt back of the playoffs right now. AND you think he'll only get the mvp cause he hit the 60 goal mark. AND you think he's similar to gretzky, i don't think they are ANYTHING alike. i'm sorry bro, but i basically couldn't disagree more with everything you said.

Edited March 22, 2008 by DenJ91

[Doggy 130]

Alexander Ovechkin is the MVP of the NHL this year and it isn't close. There is a 40+ point differential between he and his next teammate. He is +19 on a team that has given up more goals than it has scored. No one has score 60 goals in 12 seasons! This argument that a MVP must come from a playoff team is flawed. Just because the Caps might miss the playoffs means that Ovechkin is less valuable to his team? I don't buy that at all. Why not just make the Captain or highest scorer of the President's Trophy team automatically be league MVP every year if that is the case. Well, that would work for the Red Wings, but its a silly idea.

If the Caps missed the playoffs by 20 points, that would be one thing. But they are in the race thanks to Ovechkin, the 2008 NHL MVP.

Good post.

Edited March 22, 2008 by Doggy

[#19=Legend 29]

He probably won't win it.

There is so much depth, and intelligence to your post.

I mean you could go on to say why you dont think he will win it. Because after all, the Hart is based on regular season success.

[IceMunkee 15]

ice munkee, usually you have some good things to say but this isn't one to remember. your worried about him having active celebrations?? it's so refreshing to see someone care that much even when someone else scores. i wish there were more like him celebrating like that. just him celebrating like that sparks the entire team, it rubs off and that's a bad thing? he's not handicapping the team, and it's not as if he "demanded" that money, it's what he's worth and i'm sure the caps were more than happy to lock him up. and also how are they not successful, they are 1 pt back of the playoffs right now. AND you think he'll only get the mvp cause he hit the 60 goal mark. AND you think he's similar to gretzky, i don't think they are ANYTHING alike. i'm sorry bro, but i basically couldn't disagree more with everything you said.

I see what your saying. I actually really like his emotion when he celebrates. I think I said in the thread that discussed that a couple days back I said it was refreshing. I love to watch him play, he is absolutely amazing. Definitly deserves more cred then Sid. I do think taking so much money handicapped his team. The reason (i think) he got so much is because he spoke of his intrest to leave. I do think the Hart is more then scoring goals. I am definitly not saying you need to be in the Playoff's to be named and I think it is absolutely disgusting that it almost always comes from the winner. I am just not sure about it. I definitly see your point and value your opinion.

[#19=Legend 29]

I see what your saying. I actually really like his emotion when he celebrates. I think I said in the thread that discussed that a couple days back I said it was refreshing. I love to watch him play, he is absolutely amazing. Definitly deserves more cred then Sid. I do think taking so much money handicapped his team. The reason (i think) he got so much is because he spoke of his intrest to leave. I do think the Hart is more then scoring goals. I am definitly not saying you need to be in the Playoff's to be named and I think it is absolutely disgusting that it almost always comes from the winner. I am just not sure about it. I definitly see your point and value your opinion.

Agree. He could have given the caps a chance to mess around with some money instead. That is the type of thing the "Face of the Organization" would do.

[DenJ91 0]

I see what your saying. I actually really like his emotion when he celebrates. I think I said in the thread that discussed that a couple days back I said it was refreshing. I love to watch him play, he is absolutely amazing. Definitly deserves more cred then Sid. I do think taking so much money handicapped his team. The reason (i think) he got so much is because he spoke of his intrest to leave. I do think the Hart is more then scoring goals. I am definitly not saying you need to be in the Playoff's to be named and I think it is absolutely disgusting that it almost always comes from the winner. I am just not sure about it. I definitly see your point and value your opinion.

well thanks for saying that bout me at the end, and the same goes to you, not like i was trying to bash you or anything. but anyway, it just seemed like you were saying you didn't like his celebrations. i don't really think ovechkin wanted to leave, i'm sure he knew they wanted him to stay, if anything it was just a reason for him to get the message across to the caps that he wanted to win, and win now so do what it takes, which is also why they made the 3 deadline moves and ovechkin has absolutely loved having fedorov there. keep in mind he isn't just scoring goals, he does have 40+ assists and also leads the team in hits so he's doing more than people think. i wouldn't worry about the money issue too much, the cap should go up some again next year, they have some key players to re-sign like green, fedorov, huet, cooke to name a few and hopefully they can acomplish that. they have a solid core of players to build around, they are an exciting team to watch.

Edited March 22, 2008 by DenJ91

[IceMunkee 15]

well thanks for saying that bout me at the end, and the same goes to you, not like i was trying to bash you or anything. but anyway, it just seemed like you were saying you didn't like his celebrations. i don't really think ovechkin wanted to leave, i'm sure he knew they wanted him to stay, if anything it was just a reason for him to get the message across to the caps that he wanted to win, and win now so do what it takes, which is also why they made the 3 deadline moves and ovechkin has absolutely loved having fedorov there. keep in mind he isn't just scoring goals, he does have 40+ assists and also leads the team in hits so he's doing more than people think. i wouldn't worry about the money issue too much, the cap should go up some again next year, they have some key players to re-sign like green, fedorov, huet, cooke to name a few and hopefully they can acomplish that. they have a solid core of players to build around, they are an exciting team to watch.

I would much rather have Feds sign here in July!!!

[YoungGuns1340 1]

All this "Ovechkin shouldnt win the Hart" crap because his team didnt make the playoffs stuff is pure bulls***. Check the standings. Half the time in this league nowadays, there can be a whopping 5 points between the 2nd and 8th teams. If the Caps miss the playoffs, itll likely be by a whole 2 points. You mean to tell me that a 60 goal, 110+ point guy isnt worthy of the Hart because his team missed the playoffs by essentially ONE win? Come on now. Use your heads. This guy is 22 years old and poised to break Luc Robitaille's record for most goals in a season by a LW if he can hit 64. Again, at age 22. Hes made his team far more competitive than they have any right to be, frankly. Half of the Caps goals are due, at least in part, to Ovechkin. Half. Really. Think about it. Precedent is the stupidest reason one could come up with for essentially robbing someone of the Hart.

Edited March 22, 2008 by YoungGuns1340

[shannyfan1414 0]

Well now i pose the following question. Do you think that he might be able to pull off 70 for the season. He has 6 games left to get 10 more. It is very doubtful, but i think that he has a shot at doing it.

Regardless, i think that he should get the hart this year. He has put the Capitals on his back this season and has turned them into a playoff contender. I would love to see them in the playoffs. Seeing AO in the playoffs would be great.

Not only has he turned them into a contender to make the playoffs but he has also helped to sell a ton of tickets in DC. I have been out there twice to see a game now. Once last season and once this season. First trip out there the arena was empty. They played the Rangers and there were easily more Ranger fans there then Caps fans. This season was a different story. The arena was not full but damn close to it. Seemed like more then three quarters of them had the new team jersey on and were into the game.

I think he has done a lot for his team and that he deserves the hart this year. I can't really think of anyone else that should get it over him.

Congrats to AO!!

[edicius 3,269]

Ovy's gotta get the Hart. No contest.

[RedWingedKitten 9]

So, how long until he hits 70?

[YoungGuns1340 1]

Heres a GREAT point of reference for you all that was posted on HFboards.com:

In Gretzky's 92 goal year, his 92 goals were 23% of his teams total goals.

With Ovechkin at 60 goals, he has 27% of his teams total goals.

That says a lot..

[eva unit zero 271]

I think that he will get the Hart regardless if he deserves it or not. I think he is an amazing player, a lot like Gretzky. He is selfish, slightly greedy and has very active emotions. Personally someone that will demand the amount of money he did from the caps for so long definitly does not deserve the Hart. He has handicapped his team from being successful, and that is not a most valuable player to me...

But none the less he will get it because he is one of nine players that have achieved something great.

If his contract means he shouldn't be MVP...then Crosby shouldn't have won last year. Ovechkin is more proven at this point than Crosby was last year, and the cap hit will be less than a million different. And if Crosby takes a contract with an average cap hit of 10.17 million over the final three years of Ovechkin's current deal, his cap hit will actually have been higher over the seven years.

Being among the five best players in the league and not taking a league max contract when you could EASILY demand one is not being selfish.

[imisssergei 0]

Heres a GREAT point of reference for you all that was posted on HFboards.com:

In Gretzky's 92 goal year, his 92 goals were 23% of his teams total goals.

With Ovechkin at 60 goals, he has 27% of his teams total goals.

That says a lot..

In 2000-01 Pavel scored 29.5% for the Panthers with 59 of 200.

[BeeRYCE 2]

In 2000-01 Pavel scored 29.5% for the Panthers with 59 of 200.

Nice research.

I want to know though, who holds the record for most percentage of goals scored? Is it actually Bure?

Edited March 22, 2008 by BeeRYCE

[imisssergei 0]

Nice research.

I want to know though, who holds the record for most percentage of goals scored? Is it actually Bure?

I haven't found anyone else, but really looking would be to painstaking from my attention span.

Anyone have more patience?

[digitaljohn88 4]

Heres a GREAT point of reference for you all that was posted on HFboards.com:

In Gretzky's 92 goal year, his 92 goals were 23% of his teams total goals.

With Ovechkin at 60 goals, he has 27% of his teams total goals.

That says a lot..

That's flawed logic. In terms of overall greatness, anyway. Gretzky had 120 assists in his 92 goal year. Ovechkin may be more of a pure goal scorer, but it's hard to compare because you have to think Gretzky could have scored a bit more if he wasn't busy setting up 120 goals. It really was a different league back then though.

Gretzky had a goal or an assist on 51% of Edmonton's scoring that year, and maintained close to that percentage for many years.

Ovechkin has been involved in 47% of his team's goals this year. An amazing feat in itself.

Not taking anything away from Ovechkin. Stats don't really directly compare between now and 20 years ago, but Ovechkin is on pace to become one of the great players in the NHL. If he keeps pace for the rest of his career he would be known as the greatest pure goal scorer in history.