DaKineMaui 8 Report post Posted April 19, 2008 Nashville executed the empty net sequence of plays pretty flawlessly. Give them credit when it is due. ^true^. I said (screamed) the same thing while watching the end. Ask my sister - (wife won't watch games with me anymore). Told her: "These guys are hoppin and poppin and running and movin....we're screwed." That is a fun fun fun brand of NHL hockey to watch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doggy 130 Report post Posted April 20, 2008 It is true though that there are some goalies that would've made that save. Not many but a few. These goalies are elite goalies. Osgood isn't at that level. The good thing is, he doesn't need to be. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeBuddy 10 Report post Posted April 20, 2008 I used to love listening to 97.1, but these days I really can't stand hearing anyone on there. To be honest I don't really feel that any of them know much about any sport other than football. Pat Caputo, Drew Sharp, and the guy with the very high voice whose name I don't know all really annoy me when they talk about hockey. It's so obvious that they are winging the entire thing and aren't too sure about what to say. A perfect example would be today when I listened in for maybe about 5 minutes and they were talking about Ozzie's "bad" goal, and right away after Caputo says that they are taking open lines and willing to talk about anything including Kwame (which for some reason the man has an obsession for it seems). Now I realize that the stations entire theme one could say is having open lines, but to ask people to call about Kwame when the Tigers are doing horrible, the Wings win a crucial game 5, and the Pistons begin the playoffs the next day, comes off as unaware to the sports world, when after all, it is a sports radio station. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted April 20, 2008 It is true though that there are some goalies that would've made that save. Not many but a few. These goalies are elite goalies. Osgood isn't at that level. The good thing is, he doesn't need to be. I know we all love to talk about goalies like Luongo, but let's be realistic. I don't think there is anyone in the league today that can make saves like that. Brodeur and Hasek's glory days are behind them, Roy is gone, Belfour is just...not good anymore. There are no truly "Great" goalies out there right now. Luongo is certainly the best, with a few other amazing ones. But legendary? I'm not so sure. The age of great goal-tending is past. Maybe someday in the future it will come back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doggy 130 Report post Posted April 20, 2008 I know we all love to talk about goalies like Luongo, but let's be realistic. I don't think there is anyone in the league today that can make saves like that. Brodeur and Hasek's glory days are behind them, Roy is gone, Belfour is just...not good anymore. There are no truly "Great" goalies out there right now. Luongo is certainly the best, with a few other amazing ones. But legendary? I'm not so sure. The age of great goal-tending is past. Maybe someday in the future it will come back. Brodeur's glory days are behind him? He'll win the Vezina again. Current goalies better than Osgood - Lundqvist, Brodeur, Luongo, DiPietro, Fleury, Giguere, Nabokov and Kiprusoff. I don't think any of these are arguable and then there are a bunch of others like Price, Thomas, Huet and more that are arguably better. Regardless, these are types of goalies that make more big saves than Ozzy. They don't need to be hall of famers. I love Ozzy - he's all class. But I'm not going to claim he's something that he's not. I'm not unhappy he's in net for us either because I believe he's good enough to get us to a Cup. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Outsider 42 Report post Posted April 20, 2008 Brodeur's glory days are behind him? He'll win the Vezina again. Current goalies better than Osgood - Lundqvist, Brodeur, Luongo, DiPietro, Fleury, Giguere, Nabokov and Kiprusoff. I don't think any of these are arguable and then there are a bunch of others like Price, Thomas, Huet and more that are arguably better. Regardless, these are types of goalies that make more big saves than Ozzy. They don't need to be hall of famers. I love Ozzy - he's all class. But I'm not going to claim he's something that he's not. I'm not unhappy he's in net for us either because I believe he's good enough to get us to a Cup. As an Islanders fan, I can argue against at least one, possibly two, of the above mentioned. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doggy 130 Report post Posted April 20, 2008 As an Islanders fan, I can argue against at least one, possibly two, of the above mentioned. Then do it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kylee 727 Report post Posted April 20, 2008 ozzy got the W, thats ALL that matters here here! with the way the Wings defense is, Ozzie nor Hasek needs to be a "great goalie" for us to have a real chance at a Cup. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Outsider 42 Report post Posted April 20, 2008 Then do it. well, since you've asked so nicely: Sir, yes sir! Look at DiPietro's record in pressure situations. He always plays just well enough.... To look good when he LOSES. He's looks lights out when the pressure is minimal, but folds when it's at it's greatest. He also tends to blame his teammates for THEIR insufficiencies when he lets in one of the MANY crappy goals he lets in. He tends to exaggerate every save, flourishing the mitt to make it look like he's made a spectacular glove save, or flying across the crease, like he's in a rush to get to Hoboken, when a simple repositioning would be more efficient AND more effective. Rick is all flash, and no substance. He'll make three spectacular, highlight reel saves a game, and let in 6 goals that make you say "How the FARK did that one get by him?" All anyone ever remembers are the three "spectacular" saves, and blame all the goals against on his TEAM. There's a reason why Rick spent YEARS in therapy attempting to overcome what was termed as "extreme anxiety in pressure situations". As for his predecessor.... You think Mike Milbury traded Luongo and moved up in the Draft to select DiPietro because he was insane? Nope. (Of course, that's not to say the MM is not insane.....but on a whole different level....I have my theories about that one). He did it because he was sick of Luongo's girlie man attitude. He despised it in Salo, thought he'd gotten rid of it when he threw Tommy off the Island in '99. At the first hint of it from Luongo he couldn't get rid of him fast enough. Again, from someone who's watched Roberto from DAY ONE of his NHL career: The man is WORLD CLASS talent-wise, but has NO SPINE! NONE! People truly believe that Luongo hasn't acheived any real success because he's never been surrounded by enough talent. Fact of the matter is that Luongo can't seem to handle the pressure of what it would mean to be successful. He's always been the guy who looked great, as long as expectations were LOW. Once you raise the bar, he goes all panicky on you. And once he falls apart, he whines like a little girl with a scraped knee: "I don't really care. To be honest, the Season ended for me on Thursday. I tried to muster something up, but obviously I had nothing left." <sniff sniff, pout pout> Milbury jettisoned him and selected DiPietro because while Rick didn't have Roberto's talent, he had LOADS of B@lls, and he IS one arrogant SOB. Milbury had finally gotten tired of Luongo's snivellng attitude: "It's hard to win games when you're the only one playing." There's more to winning than "talent". There's the mental aspect of the game, and yes, the emotional aspect as well. Heart is just as important as "skill" or "talent" every day of the week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
#19forPresident! 1 Report post Posted April 20, 2008 Fair enough, he's in broadcasting it's his job to "come up" with material to fill a show, but to him I say..... Were ifs and buts candy and nuts we'd all have a merry ******* Christmas. :xmas: We got a W, I don't ask any questions after that point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bannedforlife 403 Report post Posted April 20, 2008 It is true though that there are some goalies that would've made that save. Not many but a few. These goalies are elite goalies. Osgood isn't at that level. The good thing is, he doesn't need to be. Didnt nabokov make that save like, last week? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doggy 130 Report post Posted April 20, 2008 well, since you've asked so nicely: Sir, yes sir! Look at DiPietro's record in pressure situations. He always plays just well enough.... To look good when he LOSES. He's looks lights out when the pressure is minimal, but folds when it's at it's greatest. He also tends to blame his teammates for THEIR insufficiencies when he lets in one of the MANY crappy goals he lets in. He tends to exaggerate every save, flourishing the mitt to make it look like he's made a spectacular glove save, or flying across the crease, like he's in a rush to get to Hoboken, when a simple repositioning would be more efficient AND more effective. Rick is all flash, and no substance. He'll make three spectacular, highlight reel saves a game, and let in 6 goals that make you say "How the FARK did that one get by him?" All anyone ever remembers are the three "spectacular" saves, and blame all the goals against on his TEAM. There's a reason why Rick spent YEARS in therapy attempting to overcome what was termed as "extreme anxiety in pressure situations". As for his predecessor.... You think Mike Milbury traded Luongo and moved up in the Draft to select DiPietro because he was insane? Nope. (Of course, that's not to say the MM is not insane.....but on a whole different level....I have my theories about that one). He did it because he was sick of Luongo's girlie man attitude. He despised it in Salo, thought he'd gotten rid of it when he threw Tommy off the Island in '99. At the first hint of it from Luongo he couldn't get rid of him fast enough. Again, from someone who's watched Roberto from DAY ONE of his NHL career: The man is WORLD CLASS talent-wise, but has NO SPINE! NONE! People truly believe that Luongo hasn't acheived any real success because he's never been surrounded by enough talent. Fact of the matter is that Luongo can't seem to handle the pressure of what it would mean to be successful. He's always been the guy who looked great, as long as expectations were LOW. Once you raise the bar, he goes all panicky on you. And once he falls apart, he whines like a little girl with a scraped knee: "I don't really care. To be honest, the Season ended for me on Thursday. I tried to muster something up, but obviously I had nothing left." <sniff sniff, pout pout> Milbury jettisoned him and selected DiPietro because while Rick didn't have Roberto's talent, he had LOADS of B@lls, and he IS one arrogant SOB. Milbury had finally gotten tired of Luongo's snivellng attitude: "It's hard to win games when you're the only one playing." There's more to winning than "talent". There's the mental aspect of the game, and yes, the emotional aspect as well. Heart is just as important as "skill" or "talent" every day of the week. I didn't mean to be rude. I just wanted to hear what you had to say not that you had something to say. It's interesting hearing your POV as an Isles fan. Obviously, both Luongo and DiPietro have let you down but I must respectfully disagree with you. I think putting Rick or Roberto on a team like Detroit would take the pressure OFF them and they would flourish. I agree that Luongo isn't nearly competitive enough and your quote did sum him up. Pathetic attitude to have. Anyway thanks for your comments on the two - you've seen more of them than most. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedLightGoesOn 81 Report post Posted April 20, 2008 No Goaltender I know of could have made that save. That was a perfect play and execution by the Preds, and bad on the Wings defense for letting Bonk get the puck on his stick, granted it was 6 on 5. Hats off... looks like the Preds have their first legit goal, whereas every Red Wing goal is cheating. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hallelujahlogic 1 Report post Posted April 20, 2008 I used to love listening to 97.1, but these days I really can't stand hearing anyone on there. To be honest I don't really feel that any of them know much about any sport other than football. Pat Caputo, Drew Sharp, and the guy with the very high voice whose name I don't know all really annoy me when they talk about hockey. It's so obvious that they are winging the entire thing and aren't too sure about what to say. A perfect example would be today when I listened in for maybe about 5 minutes and they were talking about Ozzie's "bad" goal, and right away after Caputo says that they are taking open lines and willing to talk about anything including Kwame (which for some reason the man has an obsession for it seems). Now I realize that the stations entire theme one could say is having open lines, but to ask people to call about Kwame when the Tigers are doing horrible, the Wings win a crucial game 5, and the Pistons begin the playoffs the next day, comes off as unaware to the sports world, when after all, it is a sports radio station. i hear that, dude! it's kinda obnoxious. i notice a lot of those guys pronounce a ton of nhl players names incorrectly, which makes me think they've just got something in front of the w/scores and stats and stuff, and they're just reading off of that and making off the cuff predictions/commentary based on essentially nothing. i don't think there's a single dj on that station that really gives a crap about hockey. 97.1 is pretty much baseball half the year and football the other half. everything just seems kinda thrown in as an afterthought. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites