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[dawings 0]

Welcome to the board Bestkeeper....great to have you here for some great playoff discussions.

[egroen 384]

Yzerman is in my top 10 all time skaters. I used to include goalies, but that just complicates the list. Sakic would be right outside that list.

"All-time" as in the past twenty years???

I can rattle off ten guys Yzerman cannot even come close to competing with, not even counting goalies. Do you have Lidstrom ahead of him? He should be... and Lidstrom is not even in the top ten, all time.

Gretzky, Howe, Orr, Lemieux -- The Big 4.

Hull, Richard, Shore, Beliveau, Harvey, Bourque -- That makes ten.

Mikita, Morenz, LaFleur, Potvin, Esposito, Clarke, Lindsay, Bossy, Jagr, Kelly, Lidstrom, Bossy, Trottier, LaLonde, Robinson, Schmidt -- All these guys dominated the game more than Yzerman.

Heck, Chelios will go down as a better hockey player than Yzerman.

I love Yzerman -- he is one of my favorite players ever. But you are either completely ignorant of hockey history or are an incredible homer if you have Yzerman in your top ten all-time.

[GMRwings1983 8,804]

"All-time" as in the past twenty years???

I can rattle off ten guys Yzerman cannot even come close to competing with, not even counting goalies. Do you have Lidstrom ahead of him? He should be... and Lidstrom is not even in the top ten, all time.

Gretzky, Howe, Orr, Lemieux -- The Big 4.

Hull, Richard, Shore, Beliveau, Harvey, Bourque -- That makes ten.

Mikita, Morenz, LaFleur, Potvin, Esposito, Clarke, Lindsay, Bossy, Jagr, Kelly, Lidstrom, Bossy, Trottier, LaLonde, Robinson, Schmidt -- All these guys dominated the game more than Yzerman.

Heck, Chelios will go down as a better hockey player than Yzerman.

I love Yzerman -- he is one of my favorite players ever. But you are either completely ignorant of hockey history or are an incredible homer if you have Yzerman in your top ten all-time.

Dude, what are you talking about? Half the guys you just mentioned aren't even close to being as good as Stevie. Unless when I type the word Yzerman, the word Yashin appears on your computer.

Here's my top 10, since you're so interested.

1. Gretzky

2. Orr

3. Lemieux

4. Howe

5. Richard

6. Hull (Bobby)

7. Messier

8. Yzerman

9. Esposito

10. Lafleur

[egroen 384]

Let me just ask you... how is Yzerman better than Lidstrom?

Lidstrom will have 6 Norris' after this year, a Conn Smythe, 3 Cups, World Championship, Olympic Gold and is without any argument *the* defenseman of his era.

[sinbin 3]

Welcome BK, it's great to have you on board!!! Always been a fan of Joey S & Foppa!!! But my heart has always been in the D!!

Best of luck to ya!

The better team will win!

[sinbin 3]

Maybe I misunderstand Hasek......but I think he's a diva......

Joe on the other hand, I rate him as high, as Stevie Y!

[betterREDthandead 58]

Let me just ask you... how is Yzerman better than Lidstrom?

Lidstrom will have 6 Norris' after this year, a Conn Smythe, 3 Cups, World Championship, Olympic Gold and is without any argument *the* defenseman of his era.

Then why didn't Lidstrom get the captaincy from Yzerman until Yzerman retired?

[egroen 384]

Then why didn't Lidstrom get the captaincy from Yzerman until Yzerman retired?

Since when does being the best player have anything to do with being the captain?