jdog19 0 Report post Posted May 6, 2008 Don't shoot the messenger. Ek was on Home ICE (XM 204), saying that he heard the cap figure going up to max 57 mil, min ABOVE what the initial post-lockout max was (~39 mil). Sorry, I have no link, as it was on live a couple minutes ago. I did a quick search and didn't see this mentioned, so feel free to delete if it's been discussed. I'm not one to listen to that waste of breath, but the cap number just seemed to warrent a mention. As a point of ref, I'm pretty sure this season is 34.3/50.3. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
betterREDthandead 58 Report post Posted May 6, 2008 If he's wrong, he's not too far off. The PA already figured a cap of about $56 million based on projected revenues, and it was already known as well that the cap floor would likely exceed the old ceiling. Here's an older article: http://community.foxsports.com/blogs/Spect...0809_Salary_Cap Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest EZBAKETHAGANGSTA Report post Posted May 7, 2008 the higher the salary cap goes thebetter postion we are in. RISE! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted May 7, 2008 There aren't any crazy catches that would change agreed upon salaries, right? So if the cap goes up the Wings have a ridiculous amount of cap space to play with, right? Hopefully that doesn't mean Zetterberg asks for too much more than he was already asking for as a result. I'm salivating at the thought of who we could get with that extra cash. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
betterREDthandead 58 Report post Posted May 7, 2008 There aren't any crazy catches that would change agreed upon salaries, right? So if the cap goes up the Wings have a ridiculous amount of cap space to play with, right? Hopefully that doesn't mean Zetterberg asks for too much more than he was already asking for as a result. I'm salivating at the thought of who we could get with that extra cash. Salivate over re-signing the guys we have now. Flip, Franzen, and Z are all due big fat raises. That'll eat up most of that available cap room, and there's the question of whether or not Stuart is brought back. There are a few salaries that will come off the books that might make room for a mid-level type signing, but with Kronwall's and Cleary's already-scheduled boosts, plus what we're gonna have to pay Flip, Franzen, and Hank, we're talking more about keeping this core of players together rather than a big splashy free agent signing. The nice thing is there will be room to do it, because without this boost in the cap we'd likely have to say bye-bye to someone we'd rather keep. This way, probably not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted May 7, 2008 Glad to see we don't have anyone complaining 'the lockout was a failure omgz!' just because the cap number is up, and maybe people are starting to realize that the cap continuously going up means the league is doing WELL, not badly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest EZBAKETHAGANGSTA Report post Posted May 7, 2008 Salivate over re-signing the guys we have now. Flip, Franzen, and Z are all due big fat raises. That'll eat up most of that available cap room, and there's the question of whether or not Stuart is brought back. There are a few salaries that will come off the books that might make room for a mid-level type signing, but with Kronwall's and Cleary's already-scheduled boosts, plus what we're gonna have to pay Flip, Franzen, and Hank, we're talking more about keeping this core of players together rather than a big splashy free agent signing. The nice thing is there will be room to do it, because without this boost in the cap we'd likely have to say bye-bye to someone we'd rather keep. This way, probably not. I dont think Flip will be that much.Around or Under 2.2 million certainly. Franzen, maybe 3.5-4ish, all depends how he finishes this playoff run. Zetterberg 6.7-7.2? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
betterREDthandead 58 Report post Posted May 7, 2008 I dont think Flip will be that much.Around or Under 2.2 million certainly. Franzen, maybe 3.5-4ish, all depends how he finishes this playoff run. Zetterberg 6.7-7.2? OK, but you're still talking about an extra $1.5 million for Flip, $2.5 million raise for Franzen, maybe $4 million more for Hank, plus Kronwall's due an extra $1.5M and Cleary is getting another $2M. That's $11.5 million, right there. Rough figures, but about right, and that takes us over $56 million. No room for re-signing Stuart. And Drake, Mac, Downey, Hartigan, Lilja, and Chelios are UFA's this summer as well, so some decisions will have to be made. That's about $4 million that can come off the books, but some of them will be back. Fact is there's just no room to be big players in the FA market. No Rafalski-type signing this year. There might be $1.5, maayyyyybe $2 million to squeeze in a second/third line type forward, but none of that will happen unless Holland is sure he can take care of his own first. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WingMachine91 0 Report post Posted May 7, 2008 the good thing is, theres really nobody TOO great out there that we would really need. also, i heard that if things keep going well, within 2 years the cap could be $62 million. now with having all of our core players locked up, we would have great cap space to make a splash next year and sign a great player rather than overpay for an OK player this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Winther 6 Report post Posted May 7, 2008 OK, but you're still talking about an extra $1.5 million for Flip, $2.5 million raise for Franzen, maybe $4 million more for Hank, plus Kronwall's due an extra $1.5M and Cleary is getting another $2M. That's $11.5 million, right there. Rough figures, but about right, and that takes us over $56 million. No room for re-signing Stuart. And Drake, Mac, Downey, Hartigan, Lilja, and Chelios are UFA's this summer as well, so some decisions will have to be made. That's about $4 million that can come off the books, but some of them will be back. Fact is there's just no room to be big players in the FA market. No Rafalski-type signing this year. There might be $1.5, maayyyyybe $2 million to squeeze in a second/third line type forward, but none of that will happen unless Holland is sure he can take care of his own first. As of now next years total salary is about 40,275 million (per nhlnumbers). UFAs: Drake, Mccarty, Downey, Hartigan, Chelios, Lilja, Stuart, Hasek RFAs: Fillpula, Ericsson, Quincey, Howard What i think will be goners; Hasek, Lilja (if Stuart resigns), Hartigan These are maybe goners; one of Mccarty or Downey, Chelios, Drake, Quincey (there just isnt room for him on the big club if cheli stays, and he will want to play the nhl). Resigned; Stuart (or Lilja if Stuart goes), Mccarty, Downey or Drake (probably 2 of them), Fillpula, Ericsson, Howard, maybe Chelios. So, lets say Stuart stays, then we'll presume something like this; Stuart 3,5 Fillpula 2,2 Mccarty 0,6 Ericsson 1 (? what do you guys think he is worth) Howard 1 (? same here) Chelios 0,85 Downey or Drake 0,6 That leaves us with a cap number of 50,025. If cheli retires, we can replace him with quincey. Now we have 14 forwards (counting helm aswell, if you count abdelkader and ritola we have 16), 8 defensemen, and 2 goalies for next year. If Drake or Downey is being let go of, we will get someone else of similiar salary in theyre place. When Zs and franzens new contracts kicks in i can definitely see that we will let samuelsson go, kopecky will probably be resigned. That means minus 1.2 of the 50,025 = 48,825. Now, lets resign Z and the Mule. Z gets 7,2 mill and Franzen 3,5. Thats makes for a combined raise of 7,108 mill which translates into a total capnumber of 55,933 million in 09-10 (im asuming we're replacing/resigning the likes of downey, drake etc. with similiar salaries). In other words, it all depends on home much the max cap will be. A 57 mill cap next year, that will probably go up a little bit more, may translate into a quality signing. So much of the calculations depends on Fillpula, Stuart, Z and Franzens salaries though (i personally dont think franzen will get as much as 3.5, if kenny is quick and resigns him this summer). All in all, it's hard to predict the future . But reason says we wont get a big name player this summer (although im hoping for Malone/Rolston!!). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DraperFan MN 0 Report post Posted May 7, 2008 There aren't any crazy catches that would change agreed upon salaries, right? So if the cap goes up the Wings have a ridiculous amount of cap space to play with, right? Hopefully that doesn't mean Zetterberg asks for too much more than he was already asking for as a result. I'm salivating at the thought of who we could get with that extra cash. His name is Brad Stuart and he is going to get a long term deal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites