Pitt's Third Goal

[StevieBoy 2]

Ya know...there was definitely contact against Oz but then again, he went out a bit too far fishing for the puck with all that traffic around in the first place. He wasn't allowed to get back, but IMO he shouldn't have taken those extra couple pushes/pokes at the puck before trying to get back in. if he played a little smarter on that play, there wouldn't have been the opportunity for the interference that followed.

In the end, it's a non-issue. There were plenty of other mistakes on our end and if you play messy enough to allow one back goal to settle the game then you deserve to lose the game. We're still up in the series and will straighten things out in game 4.

[Guest MrSandMan]

um, ok...sure bud. My point is that of course Detroit has no reason to cry over non-calls because they are getting the majority of them. It will be interesting to see how they fair when things get tilted towards the Pens a bit maybe and our PP is able to really capitalize.

I didn't neccessarily like Therrien's complaining either, but everyone knows thats the coach's job to work the officials if their team is getting shorthanded more often than not. Babcock will be doing the same if the roles are reversed in the future I'll guarantee that.

I give credit that Detroit is damn good at the obstruction style of play they employ. Unless you're really watching for it you don't notice because it is so subtle and they are coached so expertly at doing it without receiving penalties. I still think you would've won games 1 and 2 regardless, but it certainly didn't hurt your cause to have the refs on your side as well. The Pens didn't realize that they just have to hustle twice as hard as a result and play through it which they did in game 3. Now that they realize what they're up against maybe the rest of the series will have a different story.

I also credit Detroit for overcoming the no-goal call in game 1 which indeed was bogus and that's what good teams do.

You've managed to hold Malkin in check for 3 games now which is very impressive, but that just means he's probably going to have a big breakout game very soon...hopefully on Saturday night.

I've NEVER seen Babcock cry bloody murder to the press. In fact, as he displayed great composure to the press on the no-goal question, he changed the subject. It's NOT the coaches job to cry to the press about anything. That's poor sportsmanship in any game. And I would expect the Pens to be better than that. I was wrong.

It's funny that these 'obstructions' that you speak of are so subtle, that one has to pick it apart with a fine tooth comb to see it... and the only people seeing it is Therrien and Crosby, the Pens fans only see it because Crosby and Therrien sold it to them buy crying obstruction. We can find obstruction in any game. It's not a technique that Detroit employ. It's called solid defense. Something the Pens really don't have much of (from what I saw this series).

It's funny though, after playing Nashville, Avs, and the Stars, nobody even 'whispered' the word obstruction. This is obvously the word of the day in Pittsburgh. --"oh my gosh, how can anyone shut down Pens god-gifted-offense!?! --It MUST be obstruction, cuz there is noway Defense can beat our holy-god Crosby!!!" ---and that's pathetic!

Now lets touch on the penalties and how well Detroit would fair against the Pens PP, lets look at game 1. Detroit was damn near 8 minutes (or more) on the PK and allowed...... Zero, zilch, none, 0! Even after the good goal that was waived off, Detroit still battled and found a way to win. The Pens PK isn't scary.

Now I'll rebut on the 3rd goal last night. That my friend is a playoff goal. I for one agree with that goal. Now lets not listen to Therrien and Crosby cry when the Mule and Holmstrom play their game. --the only reason why this thread was created is because Detroit can't even have their stick near the blue, then Refs allow this goal. It was a good goal. Detroit can score many goals this way... now that we know the refs are going to allow these goals, we can play our game again. Fleury will see HELL'S FURY!

I'll see you in Game 4! Now that Detroit settled in after 40 minutes, they'll lock it down. And you have to admit that Detroit's determination is surreal. After playing trying to find their niche on road ice, and Pens playing their 'A' game, Detroit still battled hard to capatlize one goal, one bounce. Simply Impressive, I love my team!

Edited May 29, 2008 by MrSandMan

[GoWings1905 2,694]

I think you are mistaking good defense for some absurd obstruction theory your whiny head coach came up with. Funny, no bitching from the Pens when they win a game.

For a team that is clearly favored by the NHL/refs, I find it hilarious that any Penguins fan would be complaining about another team getting the calls.

Edited May 29, 2008 by GoWings1905

[Nev 1,085]

No problem with the Refs in game 3 - they mostly let the players play, only called obvious stuff and no massive gaffes like the no goal in Game 1. Only think I can complain about is the pitchfork on Homer.

As for the discrepancy in PPs, maybe if the pens didn't goon it up every time they are down late in the 3rd, they wouldn't take so many penalties? Hmmm?

Kudos to Babs and the team for not whining and blaming the refs for the loss because - just like the Pens 2 losses, they weren't the reason.

[therock48880 14]

I didn't neccessarily like Therrien's complaining either, but everyone knows thats the coach's job to work the officials if their team is getting shorthanded more often than not. Babcock will be doing the same if the roles are reversed in the future I'll guarantee that.

That's where you are completely wrong. The Wings have been victim of the three worst calls I may have ever seen this year, and all three led to them losing the game. The first was another phantom goalie interference call on Holmstrom against the Ducks on national TV. The second happened when an opponent shot the puck from the red line and it hit about 10-20 feet up in the net. It bounced back down and landed by Hasek, who had stopped playing. The other team (Columbus I think, but could be wrong) tapped the puck in the net and it counted as a goal. The third call was the goalie interference call on Holmstrom against the Stars when they ruled his butt was in the crease. Despite losing all three games, and one could argue they lost because of those calls, Babcock did not whine. In fact, he said on all three occasions that the refs do a great job night in and night out. So, your theory is completely off base. Babcock acts the exact same way, win or lose. Come to think of it, Therrien does too since I see he is still whining even after winning the game. I've lost a lot of respect for him. You know who he kind of reminds me? Marc Crawford. Whine, whine, whine.

Edited May 30, 2008 by therock48880

[therock48880 14]

I think you are mistaking good defense for some absurd obstruction theory your whiny head coach came up with. Funny, no bitching from the Pens when they win a game.

For a team that is clearly favored by the NHL/refs, I find it hilarious that any Penguins fan would be complaining about another team getting the calls.

With all due respect, I think you are underestimating the Pens. They ARE still bitching, even after winning a game. At least they're consistent.

[MabusIncarnate 5,359]

Fact is it's Detroit's cup in 2008. The Pens couldn't even score a goal until the 3rd game, their coach is dragging down what respect the Penguins had by crying and bitching and being a completely piss poor example of a head coach. The wings played very off in game 3, probably their most off game in the entire playoffs, and lost by one goal. The Penguins can't keep up, their defense is about two leagues below the Wings, and they don't have the makings of a championship team, not for at least a few more seasons. So spew your obstruction woes all you want, let your piss ant coach cry his way to a few calls and still go out a loser, even better, a sore loser. Unless Zetterberg, Lidstrom, and Osgood all collide with eachother and crack their heads open unable to finish the series, it's a cup for the Wings.

Not to mention we just got our #1 playoff goal scorer back, as long as no one punches him in the side of the head attempting a reoccurance of his concussion. He had his warm up game, then scored in the next, so watch out for the Mule in game 4, he'll be picking Penguin s*** out of his hoofs until game 5.

[hockeysattva 8]

Acually, Detroit would have way more than 19 PPs if officials were to call all the "obstruction" that your coach fabricated (and cried about) --See what real crying is HERE. (that is MT crying about his fabricated 'obstruction' and ozzy)

I think what happens here is a better example of whining like the proverbial school girl

http://watch.tsn.ca/nhl/clip55386#clip56510

[hockeysattva 8]

I almost forgot what I was planning on saying to begin with...

Ozzie took a swipe at the puck, he missed it and ended up out of position. It happens, and he has been great, but he got caught twice in one game and we lost. (Yes, I am calling the first one soft.) Two shut-outs vs. two goals he would like to have back.

Anyway, moaning about the bad calls, and missed calls... this is hockey, expect your team to win the game not penalties, since, after all the Wings still have this one.

[Coolio Mendez 7]

Maybe you missed the fact that the Wings had 5 powerplays to the Pens 3 in the game, or was that not enough of an advantage for you?

In fact for the series Detroit now has a 19-11 advantage in powerplays and you guys want to whine about the officiating?

Stupidest comment I've read on LGW, how does it feel?

Of course were going to get more calls when we control the puck for more than 70% of the game dips***.

[GreatBallsOfFire 0]

Fact is it's Detroit's cup in 2008. The Pens couldn't even score a goal until the 3rd game, their coach is dragging down what respect the Penguins had by crying and bitching and being a completely piss poor example of a head coach. The wings played very off in game 3, probably their most off game in the entire playoffs, and lost by one goal. The Penguins can't keep up, their defense is about two leagues below the Wings, and they don't have the makings of a championship team, not for at least a few more seasons. So spew your obstruction woes all you want, let your piss ant coach cry his way to a few calls and still go out a loser, even better, a sore loser. Unless Zetterberg, Lidstrom, and Osgood all collide with eachother and crack their heads open unable to finish the series, it's a cup for the Wings.

Not to mention we just got our #1 playoff goal scorer back, as long as no one punches him in the side of the head attempting a reoccurance of his concussion. He had his warm up game, then scored in the next, so watch out for the Mule in game 4, he'll be picking Penguin s*** out of his hoofs until game 5.

Fact is, this is a brand new series if the Pens win Saturday night as hard as that may be for many arrogant Wings fans to admit. I know the Wings players realize this and they will most likely bring their best game yet of the series to try and prevent that from happening. You cannot deny that we have momentum coming off a hard fought win after two embarrassing shutouts. Thats why its a 7 game series. Momentum can change everything. The Pens did not get lucky or catch the Wings on a bad night, they outplayed them and DESERVED to win. They now understand what it takes to win a Cup Final Game and are very capable of doing it yet again to tie this series up.

The obstruction argument is being a bit overplayed, but it still exists nonetheless, not that I expect fans here to admit that.

Ozzie the staypuff marshmallow diver however is a different story...he may need to go back to beginers skating class with the chairs to help him stay on his feet a little better.

[Guest NumbaSixty-Six]

Chill out wit the freaking name calling OMG

[GreatBallsOfFire 0]

Stupidest comment I've read on LGW, how does it feel?

Of course were going to get more calls when we control the puck for more than 70% of the game dips***.

Gee, that means a whole lot coming from someone who just joined this site at the end of April.