Plea to Zetterberg

[Antilles328 0]

Dear Zetterberg,

Please tally at least 2 more points than Cindy tonight. I do not want the NHL to have any statistical reason to think that Sid the Pedophilic Mustachioed Kid has been the best player in the playoffs or, God forbid, to have any reason whatsoever to even consider him for the Conn Smythe trophy. Also, please insert Octopus into Gary Roberts by any means possible.

Thanks and enjoy the cup,

The Undersigned.

Edited June 2, 2008 by Antilles328

[Viperar 16]

Zetterberg

[VM1138 1,921]

Regardless of the stats, everyone knows Zetterberg has been the more consistent, better player. I really don't see anyone other than a Red Wing winning Conn Smythe.

[McCartyFanForLife 17]

Sorry, no way Crosby gets it over Osgood; even if Z has a crappy game tonight and they win, Ozzie will get it

[No1Assassin 0]

Ooooh I want to the X-Files conspiracy guy on this one.... What if Bettman wants his golden boy to give the Conn Smythe? So shady that guy is! Someone find me Mulder!

[Antilles328 0]

Sorry, no way Crosby gets it over Osgood; even if Z has a crappy game tonight and they win, Ozzie will get it

You have more faith in the NHL than I do. I would not put it past them to give the Stanley Cup to Detroit but the Conn Smythe to the Beardless Wonder in attempt to save their asses. Blame Malkin, Praise Crosby. That's how it's going to happen.

[McCartyFanForLife 17]

You have more faith in the NHL than I do. I would not put it past them to give the Stanley Cup to Detroit but the Conn Smythe to the Beardless Wonder in attempt to save their asses. Blame Malkin, Praise Crosby. That's how it's going to happen.

I guess it's in the realm of possibility; I mean he is a player in the Finals. Rarely does a player from a losing team win the Conn Smythe and when they do it's because they played awesome EVERY game in the Finals and only because the supporting cast wasn't good enough. Crosby does not fit that category.

[StevieY9802 6]

If the league voted than Crosby might have a chance but people in the media vote and they all know better. Crosby would need to go such a roll and force a game 7 for him to have a shot at it.

[chuklz 15]

MVP for letting his team get blanked twice in the SCF? Please.

[toby91_ca 620]

Dear Zetterberg,

Please tally at least 2 more points than Cindy tonight. I do not want the NHL to have any statistical reason to think that Sid the Pedophilic Mustachioed Kid has been the best player in the playoffs or, God forbid, to have any reason whatsoever to even consider him for the Conn Smythe trophy. Also, please insert Octopus into Gary Roberts by any means possible.

Thanks and enjoy the cup,

The Undersigned.

Nothing to worry about. Crosby will only get consideration if the Pens win.

There has only been 5 times in the history of the award whereby a player from the losing team has won it and 4 of those times, it has gone to a goalie. The only time in history whereby a non-goalie from a losing team won it was Reggie Leach, 32 years ago. He just so happened to dominate the scoring chart that playoff year. He had 19 goals in 16 games. The closest teammate to that had 6 and the highest scorer on the winning team had 7 goals.

Crosby has been excellent, especially later on in the playoffs and while he is the leading scorer that is simply not enough to get consideration. Now, if he had 35+ points and everyone else's stats were the same, then we might start talking. I'm not even sure that would be enough. Look at Gretzky in 1983, he had 38 points in 16 games (closest teammate was Kurri, with 23 points). A couple Islanders had 26 and 28 points in 20 games (1.4 ppg vs. Gretzky's 2.38). As dominating statistically as Gretzky was that year, he didn't win the Conn Smythe. Billy Smith did

[pucker4fischer 0]

You have more faith in the NHL than I do. I would not put it past them to give the Stanley Cup to Detroit but the Conn Smythe to the Beardless Wonder in attempt to save their asses. Blame Malkin, Praise Crosby. That's how it's going to happen.

This trophy is awarded by the Professional Hockey Writers' Association, not the NHL.

[toby91_ca 620]

You have more faith in the NHL than I do. I would not put it past them to give the Stanley Cup to Detroit but the Conn Smythe to the Beardless Wonder in attempt to save their asses. Blame Malkin, Praise Crosby. That's how it's going to happen.

Do you actually believe this, or are you just saying it.....?

If you truly believe this, then I seriously have to wonder........I'll leave it at that.

[StevieY9802 6]

Crosby has been excellent, especially later on in the playoffs and while he is the leading scorer that is simply not enough to get consideration. Now, if he had 35+ points and everyone else's stats were the same, then we might start talking. I'm not even sure that would be enough. Look at Gretzky in 1983, he had 38 points in 16 games (closest teammate was Kurri, with 23 points). A couple Islanders had 26 and 28 points in 20 games (1.4 ppg vs. Gretzky's 2.38). As dominating statistically as Gretzky was that year, he didn't win the Conn Smythe. Billy Smith did

Gretzky was held without a goal during the finals, I think that was the big reason. Same thing will hold true here too if the Wings win it. 3 points is not enough for him to be considered if they don't win.

[Antilles328 0]

This trophy is awarded by the Professional Hockey Writers' Association, not the NHL.

Oh good. I'm not being pessimistic. I'm just tired of the incessant Crosby love from every angle. The NHL is just banking so much on him when their are so many other good players (and not just on the Red Wings) that it makes me angry. I read the "Stanley Cup Finals preview" in Sports Illustrated and they mentioned Crosby's name over 2 dozen times. You know whose name they didn't mention. The Detroit Red Wings or a single player. They could have at least mentioned who the mighty Penguins were going to play. It's stuff like that that make me want to give up on the NHL.

[Antilles328 0]

Do you actually believe this, or are you just saying it.....?

If you truly believe this, then I seriously have to wonder........I'll leave it at that.

I don't believe it will happen. But I do believe it could happen with how much Crosby love the NHL and media has shown in its advertisements, officiating decisions, and everything else.

[up2here 41]

Sorry, no way Crosby gets it over Osgood; even if Z has a crappy game tonight and they win, Ozzie will get it

I agree with you on the Ozzie pick but im not sure its as cut and dry as you say. Ozzie bashers are rampant and point to his lack of shots.

[StevieY9802 6]

I agree with you on the Ozzie pick but im not sure its as cut and dry as you say. Ozzie bashers are rampant and point to his lack of shots.

He may not face many shots but he came in and saved this team. And he stopped Crosby, Dupuis and Hossa all in about 10 seconds at point blank range. I really hope he gets it.

[toby91_ca 620]

Gretzky was held without a goal during the finals, I think that was the big reason. Same thing will hold true here too if the Wings win it. 3 points is not enough for him to be considered if they don't win.

That is true, had the series been close and Gretzky picked up a lot of points, maybe he would have won it. Crazy stats going into the finals though (34 points in 12 games).

Even if Crosby had 10 points in the Finals and leads the scoring list by 10 points, I don't think that is enough to award him the Conn Smythe if his team doesn't win.

The thing is, if he puts up those numbers and leads the scoring list by 10 points, then its hard to imagine the Pens not winning, so its a moot point.

[toby91_ca 620]

He may not face many shots but he came in and saved this team. And he stopped Crosby, Dupuis and Hossa all in about 10 seconds at point blank range. I really hope he gets it.

I think Ozzy has it locked up unless something strange happens. While Zetterberg and Datsyuk have been great defensively in the Finals, they haven't been scoring, which will matter when it comes to the voting.

[Shaman 713]

I think Ozzy has it locked up unless something strange happens. While Zetterberg and Datsyuk have been great defensively in the Finals, they haven't been scoring, which will matter when it comes to the voting.

I dont know, the only person who has a shot at stealing it from Ozzy would be Hank, because he probably saved game 4 for us and has helped keeping hockey's golden haired child off the score board.

[Viperar 16]

I think Ozzy has it locked up unless something strange happens. While Zetterberg and Datsyuk have been great defensively in the Finals, they haven't been scoring, which will matter when it comes to the voting.

QFT, I think Ozzie stands out a little more than Dats or Z and their offensive or defensive play. It's a hard choice but I think ozzie stands out a little more.

wonder what all the ozzie doubters on the opponent forums thinking ozzie is nothing without the Detroit defense will think then.

[toby91_ca 620]

I dont know, the only person who has a shot at stealing it from Ozzy would be Hank, because he probably saved game 4 for us and has helped keeping hockey's golden haired child off the score board.

I agree with this, however, I think the tendancy is to first look at the winning goaltender to see if they are worthy. With Osgood, his has the best GAA, the best save % (for goalies that have played more than 6 games) and is tied for most shutouts with 3. Someone can argue all they want about these being team stats, which I agree for the most part, but Osgood has been great when he has need to be and it would be very difficult to argue against those stats. Without someone with a clear edge offensively (which Zetterberg does not have), it would be difficult to not award it to Osgood.

I think the fact that Zetterberg has been able to hold Crosby in check for the most part is huge, but I think that variable will fall a little lower on the list when it comes time to vote. Had Zetterberg come into the Finals and put up some big points and finished as the scoring leader, I think he would have a good chance at winning it. Like or not, I think that what it will come down to.

[StevieY9802 6]

I dont know, the only person who has a shot at stealing it from Ozzy would be Hank, because he probably saved game 4 for us and has helped keeping hockey's golden haired child off the score board.

Very true but if Osgood doens't make those big saves in the 2nd it could have been 3-1 Pens going into the 3rd which would make the Zetterberg stop meaningless. We could go back and forth all day on this one for sure. I think we all can say that it will, or should, be one of these two guys.

[Nev 1,085]

I agree with you on the Ozzie pick but im not sure its as cut and dry as you say. Ozzie bashers are rampant and point to his lack of shots.

The thing I never understood about that is how no-one ever said that about Belfour and Brodeur, considering the dominant D they played behind?

[toby91_ca 620]

The thing I never understood about that is how no-one ever said that about Belfour and Brodeur, considering the dominant D they played behind?

People say it all the time about Brodeur.

For the most part, any great player is going to have doubters. The greater you are, the greater the arguments against you, just the way it is.