chrisdetroit 189 Report post Posted June 20, 2008 Burke is good but all that matters is winning. His team got spanked in the first round by a team which we subsequently spanked. End of story. Really? He is good. Based on the moves that he made in the last year he is terrible. Bertuzzi Penner MacDonald for Weight Give away Bryz let your #1 D Man get away with not playing with the team for 3/4 of the year 1st round exit What did he do that qualifies him as good? Sure he beat the salary cap by sitting Nieds but that ended up costing him He ranks down their with the Pittsburgh GM that gave away 4 prospects for a rental that he can't afford to keep Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevie for president 42 Report post Posted June 20, 2008 how does this not go to mcphee? He made the best mid season coaching change i can remember, he had a great trade deadline without giving up anything. huet isnt a rental and fedorov would be stupid to leave. and after this current post season and draft, i bet everyone jumps on this guys band wagon. As huge as bruce was in turning the caps season around, i think mcphee just as big for a.) signing bruce and b.) his deadline transactions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeeRYCE 2 Report post Posted June 20, 2008 The only thing that Burke has going for him is the fact that he will still have a stable team for at least 2 years with their best forward, goalie, and defenseman locked for that time. He got a good deal for Kunitz to stay, but that'd about it. He sat Niedermayer for half the season... Big deal? It was a panic move at best because of his idiotic Bertuzzi and Schneider signings. Last season he was pretty good, not the best, but this season he's far from the best... Not the worst, but far from the best. 15 other GMs are better than him at this point and I'll name them with pleasure... Holland, Gainey, Murray, Rutherford, Lamoriello, Holmgren, Shero, McPhee, Sutter, Wilson, Hull/Jackson, Sather, Risebrough, Chiarelli, Giguere... There, 15 GMs, 16 if you count the Dallas GMs as two. Burke is overrated and outspoken. Now not being able to afford Perry and Mowers makes him even worse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted June 20, 2008 He avoided the urge to match Edmonton's overpayment for Dustin Penner Instead, he overpaid out the ass for Bertuzzi. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duck Guy 86 Report post Posted June 20, 2008 maybe tuzzi will have a career year and be worth 10M next year then burke will look like a mastermind!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted June 21, 2008 Really? He is good. Based on the moves that he made in the last year he is terrible. Bertuzzi Penner MacDonald for Weight Give away Bryz let your #1 D Man get away with not playing with the team for 3/4 of the year 1st round exit What did he do that qualifies him as good? Sure he beat the salary cap by sitting Nieds but that ended up costing him He ranks down their with the Pittsburgh GM that gave away 4 prospects for a rental that he can't afford to keep This year, he was bad. But if your saying he is bad as a whole, your crazy. Burkie is a top 5 GM in the NHL. Just not this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,232 Report post Posted June 21, 2008 This year, he was bad. But if your saying he is bad as a whole, your crazy. Agreed. I don't like the guy, but he generally knows and does what it takes to win. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T.Low 1,011 Report post Posted June 21, 2008 maybe tuzzi will have a career year and be worth 10M next year then burke will look like a mastermind!!! Ohhhhh, damnit duck guy...I really hurt myself on that one...i gotta find my chiropractor's number. Duck Guy, what do you think of Burke's performance this year? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duck Guy 86 Report post Posted June 21, 2008 (edited) Ohhhhh, damnit duck guy...I really hurt myself on that one...i gotta find my chiropractor's number. Duck Guy, what do you think of Burke's performance this year? 4M for craptuzzi (wow i almost typed bert) and andy mac for weight kinda hurts me.. and i did not think of it until someone else said but what burke did was basically say bye bye to a young and talented andy to say hello to a teemu that realistically will be here for 1 more year even if he does come back this year... and going back to the craptuzzi thing again it shows that he will pay 4M for a washed up player rather then a little bit more for a talented rookie that had great numbers last year. I dont have a problem with the Bryz thing he promised him a starting position somewhere and i would rather see bryz be happy being #1.. And with the whole 1st round exit thing even though i was praying that the duckies would repeat or at least make it to the second round after the first game i knew it was over. The spark from last year just was not there. Beauchemin, Andy, and Kuni especially did not look the same in the reg season.. But all in all we made the playoffs so i guess that was good i would give Burke a Generous C for the season(maybe some people think that is harsh or 2 genourus (sp?) but thats what i think)... but he is a good GM I am confident that he will fix some of the missing pieces we had last year..i was actually hoping that he would of traded up in the draft today to get a real center instead of Mr. Dead weight.. I tell u this i will cry if he resigns dead weight.. oh and for the record i love having Schneider on the team dont know why but he is pretty much bomb hahah... so burke will keep him if i have anything to say about it... and at the beginning of the year i loved having bert also but then i saw what he really was a point streak here and there but just a complete waste of money that could of gone to penner... thats all IMO so ya... Edited June 21, 2008 by Duck Guy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T.Low 1,011 Report post Posted June 21, 2008 And Duck Guy, do you think Burke will end up in Toronto soon? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duck Guy 86 Report post Posted June 21, 2008 And Duck Guy, do you think Burke will end up in Toronto soon? No. "I have no intention of going anywhere else," says Burke. "I've said this repeatedly to anyone who will listen. "I'm not sure which part of it I'm not saying in English." " I thought that was clear. -Burke Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edicius 3,269 Report post Posted June 21, 2008 No. "I have no intention of going anywhere else," says Burke. "I've said this repeatedly to anyone who will listen. "I'm not sure which part of it I'm not saying in English." " I thought that was clear. -Burke Yeah, but he also said that he was giving Nieds and Selanne until draft day to decide their future. And then he said, "Wait, I just meant Niedermayer. Selanne can have all the time he needs." And then he said, "Well, the Ducks didn't really set a deadline for Niedermayer. It's really July 1st." After July 1st, it'll probably be, "Well, Scott's earned all the time he needs to decide..." So, Duck Guy, you'll have to forgive me if Burke's words don't hold much weight with me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duck Guy 86 Report post Posted June 21, 2008 Yeah, but he also said that he was giving Nieds and Selanne until draft day to decide their future. And then he said, "Wait, I just meant Niedermayer. Selanne can have all the time he needs." And then he said, "Well, the Ducks didn't really set a deadline for Niedermayer. It's really July 1st." After July 1st, it'll probably be, "Well, Scott's earned all the time he needs to decide..." So, Duck Guy, you'll have to forgive me if Burke's words don't hold much weight with me. good point... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edicius 3,269 Report post Posted June 21, 2008 good point... See, this is why I like you... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rush 7 Report post Posted June 22, 2008 Somebody needs to tell the writer of that article that he is supposed to switch his man love to the cup winning team every year. -Pretty much hit the nail on the head with this one. About four months ago or so, ON THIS VERY BOARD there was quite a few very vocal people who seemed to have no problem proclaiming Burke the best, HANDS DOWN, and his team was the reigning champ, NUFF SAID!!!11!!11 Personally, I always thought he was just a hotheaded ranting and raving lunatic embarrassment of a GM in Vancouver. Then got FIRED because he couldn't get the job done, went to a small hockey market with no real pressure from the surrounding community to preform and then got lucky. Just real funny how it's now pretty much unanimous in people's opinions of him now. If he thought the pressure to win was high in a Canadian city like Vancouver, I can't wait to see him fail in Toronto, and he will.... Miserably. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tux 0 Report post Posted June 22, 2008 Anyone on here that says Burke is a good GM must have forgotten all the screwups and 2-faced lies in Vancouver. The guy has no honor or loyalty whatsoever and you can't believe a single word that comes out of his mouth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,232 Report post Posted June 22, 2008 (edited) And anyone who says Burke isn't a good GM honestly needs to cool off. Every GM is going to screw up and lie. Not every GM is going to win the Cup. Edited June 22, 2008 by Dabura Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tux 0 Report post Posted June 22, 2008 And anyone who says Burke isn't a good GM honestly needs to cool off. Every GM is going to screw up and lie. Not every GM is going to win the Cup. lol I am cooled off. NOT every GM is going to lie like like Burke did to his players and coaches. You ARE aware of all he did in Vancouver, correct? I assume so since you're posting about it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,232 Report post Posted June 22, 2008 No, I wasn't aware. Please educumuhcate me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted June 22, 2008 lol I am cooled off. NOT every GM is going to lie like like Burke did to his players and coaches. You ARE aware of all he did in Vancouver, correct? I assume so since you're posting about it. Burke is Vancouver built playoff teams despite having Dan Cloutier as his starter. He drafted the Sedins, he helped make Brendan Morrison, Markus Naslund and Todd Bertuzzi. If the past Canucks teams would've had Luongo in net, they would've been contenders. Listen, sometimes I dont like Burke as a person because he can get whiney, and annoying too. But he is one of the best hockey men around, and has built a great team in Anaheim. I wish he'd give up with Niedermayer and Selanne already, and he probably shouldnt have traded McDonald, but everyone makes mistakes. Yes that includes Holland (Shawn Mattias ring a bell?) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
