YoungGuns1340 1 Report post Posted June 24, 2008 The Flyers are reportedly looking to pare down their payroll, since Richards, Carter, Eminger, Cote, Jones, and Thoresons contracts are going to be on the books, and they already have some big names on the roster. The Flyers are incredibly deep on RW, with Hartnell, Knuble, Upshall, Downie, and Lupul on the line. Of those guys, both Hartnell and Knuble are getting paid the most. It is expected that Holmgren is going to move one of his RWers. Their key target in free agency is a puck-moving Dman, and even the mid-level UFA puck-movers are going to cost around 4M and none of the RWers theyre looking to move are going to nab a puck-mover with big point potential in a trade, so its expected that Holmgren is going to move one of them, and Mike Knubles name seems to be at the top of the list, given that hes older and in the last year of his contract. I know Kenny is looking for a guy to replace Drake and only wants to give out or take on players with one year deals. So why not Knuble? The Flyers main motive for moving a player at this point would be to cut down on payroll, so they likely arent looking for a roster player in return, and the going rate for a 35 year old in the last year of his contract isnt much, especially when other GMs are aware that the Flyers wont be able to address their needs if they dont move a guy like Knuble. To me, Mike is the kind of guy that could kill two birds with one stone. He's a gritty vet AND he can still put up points. Instead of going out and grabbing two guys like Peca and Rolston (not that we would), we could strike a balance. He's also originally a Red Wing and would be a good player in the lockerroom to keep the guys excited for the next cup. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
octopusonice 0 Report post Posted June 24, 2008 The Flyers are reportedly looking to pare down their payroll, since Richards, Carter, Eminger, Cote, Jones, and Thoresons contracts are going to be on the books, and they already have some big names on the roster. The Flyers are incredibly deep on RW, with Hartnell, Knuble, Upshall, Downie, and Lupul on the line. Of those guys, both Hartnell and Knuble are getting paid the most. It is expected that Holmgren is going to move one of his RWers. Their key target in free agency is a puck-moving Dman, and even the mid-level UFA puck-movers are going to cost around 4M and none of the RWers theyre looking to move are going to nab a puck-mover with big point potential in a trade, so its expected that Holmgren is going to move one of them, and Mike Knubles name seems to be at the top of the list, given that hes older and in the last year of his contract. I know Kenny is looking for a guy to replace Drake and only wants to give out or take on players with one year deals. So why not Knuble? The Flyers main motive for moving a player at this point would be to cut down on payroll, so they likely arent looking for a roster player in return, and the going rate for a 35 year old in the last year of his contract isnt much, especially when other GMs are aware that the Flyers wont be able to address their needs if they dont move a guy like Knuble. To me, Mike is the kind of guy that could kill two birds with one stone. He's a gritty vet AND he can still put up points. Instead of going out and grabbing two guys like Peca and Rolston (not that we would), we could strike a balance. He's also originally a Red Wing and would be a good player in the lockerroom to keep the guys excited for the next cup. I don't have a problem with that; I'm more worried about our defensemen corps. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,232 Report post Posted June 24, 2008 Only if he comes for cheap. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hank Dats 'N Homer 81 Report post Posted June 24, 2008 The Flyers are reportedly looking to pare down their payroll, since Richards, Carter, Eminger, Cote, Jones, and Thoresons contracts are going to be on the books, and they already have some big names on the roster. The Flyers are incredibly deep on RW, with Hartnell, Knuble, Upshall, Downie, and Lupul on the line. Of those guys, both Hartnell and Knuble are getting paid the most. It is expected that Holmgren is going to move one of his RWers. Their key target in free agency is a puck-moving Dman, and even the mid-level UFA puck-movers are going to cost around 4M and none of the RWers theyre looking to move are going to nab a puck-mover with big point potential in a trade, so its expected that Holmgren is going to move one of them, and Mike Knubles name seems to be at the top of the list, given that hes older and in the last year of his contract. I know Kenny is looking for a guy to replace Drake and only wants to give out or take on players with one year deals. So why not Knuble? The Flyers main motive for moving a player at this point would be to cut down on payroll, so they likely arent looking for a roster player in return, and the going rate for a 35 year old in the last year of his contract isnt much, especially when other GMs are aware that the Flyers wont be able to address their needs if they dont move a guy like Knuble. To me, Mike is the kind of guy that could kill two birds with one stone. He's a gritty vet AND he can still put up points. Instead of going out and grabbing two guys like Peca and Rolston (not that we would), we could strike a balance. He's also originally a Red Wing and would be a good player in the lockerroom to keep the guys excited for the next cup. Ya know, ive always like Mike, a good hometown boy that played at U of M, how can you not like him? Whats really impressed me with him is that he didnt really become a high scorerer till his 8th season when he hit around the 30 years old mark. Its weird to see someone actually bloom that late, but its nice to see that the 02/03 season wasnt a fluke for him bcause he has posted good numbers since than as well. I like the fact of replacing a guy like Drake who has great roots in detroit with another guy like Knuble who also has roots here. I think he would be a pretty good replacement for Drake although i would still like to have Rolston here. I would have to see some kind of a buyout though by the flyers, becuase i dont think trading for Knuble is a great idea and take the chance of losing one of our younger guys especially when the free agent market is decent this year. Its always nicer to pick someone up for some cash rather than trading ....unless however, the flyers would take sammy....haha after all he did for us in the playoffs and im still bashing him. Im sorry sammy... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted June 24, 2008 He wouldn't hurt us. But first preference goes to Rolston. Then Knuble. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WingFanInStarLand 0 Report post Posted June 24, 2008 One of my good friends is a Flyers fan, so I saw them a lot this year on Center Ice, and while Knuble is a nice player, he really isn't a great replacement for Drake. -He is not a great skater, which hurts him in the transition game. Don't expect him to bring the same jam that Drake brings. He did play the Flyers PK, but we have more PK forwards than we know what to do with. -He is not a great player on the rush. He makes his living on deflections and screens in front of the net, particularly on the PP. He is pretty good at it, but we already have one crease-crashing PP specialist in Homer, and while Knuble may be better at it than Cleary (and or Franzen, depending on what you want to do with him on the PP) I really don't think the quality difference on the 2nd PP unit that the difference would cause justifies adding another 2.25 or so salary and giving up something of value to get him. Nice player, decent skills, but IMO, he is not suited to the Wings needs at the moment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungGuns1340 1 Report post Posted June 24, 2008 He wouldn't hurt us. But first preference goes to Rolston. Then Knuble. And Holland's first preference goes to players with one year contracts. Something that Rolston isn't going to sign after a good year in his mid-late thirties. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
10 Minute Misconduct 104 Report post Posted June 24, 2008 Knuble is horrible, did anybody watch him in the playoffs!? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted June 24, 2008 And Holland's first preference goes to players with one year contracts. Something that Rolston isn't going to sign after a good year in his mid-late thirties. I think Holland might make an exceptino for a guy like Rolston, who is a proven player. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dump-N-Thump Report post Posted June 24, 2008 No thanks. Playoffs he was horrible.. His age has caught up to him.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
selkie 10 Report post Posted June 24, 2008 Wasn't he playing more injured that most during the playoffs though? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
South Dakota wings fan 7 Report post Posted June 24, 2008 And Holland's first preference goes to players with one year contracts. Something that Rolston isn't going to sign after a good year in his mid-late thirties. I could see a trade going down right before the season started. Let's say we have 10 D-men trying for 8 spots, then do we trade someone like Meech or Lebda for Knuble? I don't know if that is a fair trade or not. A lot depends on whether the team is able to sign a true #4 d-man during free agency. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,804 Report post Posted June 24, 2008 He's past his prime, but I wouldn't mind having him on the 3rd or 4th line. However, he's past being a consistent producer on the top 2 lines, so I wouldn't go that route if that's what anyone has in mind. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
12Newf 0 Report post Posted June 24, 2008 we have plenty of big bodies to stand in front of the net. homer, franzen and cleary are all much more talented than knuble so we just dont need him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KDDRWINGS1 9 Report post Posted June 25, 2008 Dallas Drake = Vet = Drafted by Detroit = Stanley Cup Mike Knuble = Vet = Drafted by Detroit = ?????????? I would love to see Lebda get traded in some sort of deal for anybody, so if Knubles' cap hit is low enough I'd do it even if he sucked all season and saved whatever he had left for the playoffs. Just trade Lebda and maybe Meech and I'll be happy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Opie 308 Report post Posted June 25, 2008 Dallas Drake = Vet = Drafted by Detroit = Stanley Cup Mike Knuble = Vet = Drafted by Detroit = ?????????? I would love to see Lebda get traded in some sort of deal for anybody, so if Knubles' cap hit is low enough I'd do it even if he sucked all season and saved whatever he had left for the playoffs. Just trade Lebda and maybe Meech and I'll be happy. Can I ask why you want to trade two young, cheap, able, defenseman? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Winged Scooter 0 Report post Posted June 25, 2008 Heck, I'm all for Mike Knuble if the price is right. I have his autograph on a Wings jersey from 1998, and he's good freinds with my cousin from his days growing up in Grand Rapids. I'm a fan for personal reasons, BUT........I do throw out the disclaimer, the price HAS to benefit the Wings! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Opie 308 Report post Posted June 25, 2008 Heck, I'm all for Mike Knuble if the price is right. I have his autograph on a Wings jersey from 1998, and he's good freinds with my cousin from his days growing up in Grand Rapids. I'm a fan for personal reasons, BUT........I do throw out the disclaimer, the price HAS to benefit the Wings! I love when people can admit that it is a personal preference for why they want a guy or like a style of play. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Winged Scooter 0 Report post Posted June 25, 2008 I love when people can admit that it is a personal preference for why they want a guy or like a style of play. Thanks! despite what my wife thinks, I CAN be sentimental without being stupid! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KDDRWINGS1 9 Report post Posted June 25, 2008 Can I ask why you want to trade two young, cheap, able, defenseman? I don't like Lebda as a player or person and his trade value will never be higher because he has no potetential to move off a third pairing on a good team. Once he loses his speed /mobility he will be nothing. He is taking a roster spot that that could be filled by a GR guy. We don't need him if we have Meech. My point was, when you have an excess of something you should use it to your advantage. I'm not saying Knuble is a great player so don't get me wrong, but he's worth more than Lebda in my opinion. Holland already eluded to signing a bunch of guys and trading a couple off so if it's anybody I hope it's him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites