Phazon 24 Report post Posted July 28, 2008 okay, I know it's not maybe a good idea to adress this on a wings board, but did anyone see the zetterberg vs iginla poll? Now, there is nothing wrong with the poll itself, and iginla is leading slightly, but some of the posts there are pretty ridicilous. Let me find some gems: Zetterberg is a great player but he is too weak on the puck LMAO. Zetterberg weak on the puck?! Some of the worst statements I ever seen. all wings except Lidstrom have just become grossly overrated. yeah wings are so overrated that we just won the cup! All I'm saying is that Zetterberg probably isn't REALLY a 100 point forward not yet, but he would had broken 100 points if he was healthy last season I wouldn't be surprised if Zetterberg was only an 80 point guy with less than stellar linemates Iginla is grittier and will do whatever is needed to win yeah...Zetterberg will never do whatever it takes to win...oh wait! How do people think that Zetterberg has a big edge on Iginla defensively? Iginla finished the season at +27 on a team that was +65 collectively. Zetterberg was +30 on a team that was +235 collectively. Iginla can do everything Zetterberg can do and then some. wow that's probably the dumbest post so far. So now Iginla is suddenly as good as zetterberg defensively also? Zetterberg's defense only looks better than Iginla's because he is playing behind Nik Lidstrom. yeah I wonder why zetterberg was nominated for selke and Iginla wasnt...seriously it was all lidstrom. I used to like hfboards, but they're the king of hyperbole and false statements. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeeRYCE 2 Report post Posted July 28, 2008 (edited) What Zetterberg has over Iginla - Hands, defensive ability, vision, playmaking, skating What Iginla has over Zetterberg - Shot, release, grit, leadership, goal scoring touch I seriously can't say one is better than the other, because it's apples and oranges. Both players are rightfully at the same elite status in the NHL. But those comments are ridiculous. Edited July 28, 2008 by BeeRYCE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wings_Dynasty 267 Report post Posted July 28, 2008 One has a Cup. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doggy 130 Report post Posted July 28, 2008 What Zetterberg has over Iginla - Hands, defensive ability, vision, playmaking, skating What Iginla has over Zetterberg - Shot, release, grit, leadership, goal scoring touch I seriously can't say one is better than the other, because it's apples and oranges. Both players are rightfully at the same elite status in the NHL. But those comments are ridiculous. Well put. Agree 100%. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,232 Report post Posted July 28, 2008 I seriously can't say one is better than the other I'll do it for you: Zetterberg is better than Iginla. Iginla is stronger and feistier, probably healthier overall. Maybe a more consistent scorer, I don't know his stats off the top of my head. But overall, Hank is the better package. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lidstromfan5 3 Report post Posted July 28, 2008 In my opinion Iginla's leadership is vastly overrated. I mean, if you are a leader, what are you doing picking fights in a Stanley Cup finals game? Sure go out there and let them know you won't be pushed around but if you are gonna fight in the finals, you run many risks. Also, a leader does not butt end a player when he is down 5 - 0 on the road and try to pick a fight with a non-fighter in Lidstrom. So Iginla's leadership in non existant to me. He is a dolt in that category. Z on the other hand will become one of the games true leaders as he already had the skills before he came to the Wings and it only helped he had Nick and Stevie to show him the way. So in my opinion Z is head and shoulders above Iginla in everything except fighting, which it isn't even his job so you can't really compare it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doggy 130 Report post Posted July 28, 2008 In my opinion Iginla's leadership is vastly overrated. I mean, if you are a leader, what are you doing picking fights in a Stanley Cup finals game? Sure go out there and let them know you won't be pushed around but if you are gonna fight in the finals, you run many risks. 1. Lecavalier was the agressor. 2. Iginla kicked his arse. 3. They won the game 3-0. So a big resounding to that point, bud. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stud_defenseman 1 Report post Posted July 28, 2008 They are both excellent players. I think Z is slightly better overall, but with his injury problems I think Iginla would be the better package. I still wouldn't trade Z for Iginla though as Zetterberg fits into this team too well. Last 3 seasons for both players. Zetterberg 2005-2006 DET 77 39 46 85 2006-2007 DET 63 33 35 68 2007-2008 DET 75 43 49 92 Iginla 2005-2006 CGY 82 35 32 67 2006-2007 CGY 70 39 55 94 2007-2008 CGY 82 50 48 98 Their stats are very comparable, Iginla seems to be a little less consistent though. I just wish Z didn't get injured as much or he would be the clear favourite Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phazon 24 Report post Posted July 28, 2008 They are both excellent players. I think Z is slightly better overall, but with his injury problems I think Iginla would be the better package. I still wouldn't trade Z for Iginla though as Zetterberg fits into this team too well. Last 3 seasons for both players. Zetterberg 2005-2006 DET 77 39 46 85 2006-2007 DET 63 33 35 68 2007-2008 DET 75 43 49 92 Iginla 2005-2006 CGY 82 35 32 67 2006-2007 CGY 70 39 55 94 2007-2008 CGY 82 50 48 98 Their stats are very comparable, Iginla seems to be a little less consistent though. I just wish Z didn't get injured as much or he would be the clear favourite wow what happend in 2005-2006 season for iginla Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T.Low 1,011 Report post Posted July 28, 2008 I am a big Jerome Iginla fan. Some one above used the word fiesty, and that nails it. He is fiesty. He is more fiesty than Z, but do not mistake that as being tougher. Z is tough. Z is Red Wing tough, defined as :"you can beat on me all you want; it won't stop me from doing my job". I really like Iginla, but there is no way I would trade Zetterberg to get him. No way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doggy 130 Report post Posted July 28, 2008 wow what happend in 2005-2006 season for iginla He seemed to have a little difficulty with the new rules but got over it pretty quickly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Konnan511 1,736 Report post Posted July 28, 2008 All I have to say is to that +/- reference is this: Zetterberg is put out to shut down a teams best line and he still comes out on top in terms of +/- Iginla faces a teams best checking line, he doesn't have to worry about the other team scoring while he is out there because he knows that their line is only out there to stop him. Zetterberg defense>>>>Iginla Defense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slave 31 Report post Posted July 28, 2008 think he pulled a buttocks muscle grabbing the soap for conroy after a game Seriously though, as much as I HATE the flames Iginla is incredible..but great players make players around them better sure iginla doesn't have superstars with him on his line but franzen/cleary/fil/huds/homlstrom/sammy etc were not considered "great" players either when they first started playing; detroit was a 2 forward team for the most part, datsyuk and Z. Does Iginla pk? not sure tbh, i am sure he gets more minutes a game then Z does. as for above i agree sure Iginla motivated his team with his fight over lecav or whoever else he fights but anything can happen...one punch- broken hand- flames are toast, that is why we let downey do the fighting. plus when we beat the flames last year and iginla got all dirty i lost my respect for him, sure he is a great player but i would pick Z anyday over him. man i ramble a lot maybe i got ADD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saran 1 Report post Posted July 28, 2008 wheres the poll? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shoreline Report post Posted July 28, 2008 On an already established team, Zetterberg. On a team without much of an established team much in need of individual talent, Iginla. So basically they are useful in their respective clubs and do well because they both offer up different talents in different situations. Iginla has greatly matured over the last 7 seasons, showing consistency. Henrik Zetterberg, I hope, continues his climb (with the Wings, of course). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
puckbags 863 Report post Posted July 29, 2008 One has a Cup. That right there is the only stat that matters !! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doggy 130 Report post Posted July 29, 2008 That right there is the only stat that matters !! Would you take Cleary over Ovechkin if given the choice? By this comment you would. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SouthernWingsFan 854 Report post Posted July 29, 2008 (edited) Some pretty nutty comments on the original/first posts quoted, and not in a good way. Here is how this idiot sees it, and this is a very uneducated opinion, so keep that in mind before you roast me. Size advantage = Iginla Hard shot advantage = Iginla Speed = Zetterberg Shot accuracy = Zettererg Hitting = Iginla Tenacity/hard work/grit = Zetterberg (I am biased obviously, but not much of an advantage, Iginla is far from a slouch) Defense = Zetterberg Honestly though I hate the comparisons like these simply for the reason of the idiotic posts/opinions originally quoted by the thread starter. Eventually you'll get made to be made stupid in things such as this. I just accept that both are great players in their own way, and that's fine for me as I don't feel the need to prove who is better than the other or my "hockey knowledge skills" (because honestly, I don't have that much knowledge). Edited July 29, 2008 by SouthernWingsFan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seeinred 1,488 Report post Posted July 29, 2008 2. Iginla kicked his arse. Is that a joke? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doggy 130 Report post Posted July 29, 2008 Is that a joke? Lecavalier was borderline turtling by the end. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seeinred 1,488 Report post Posted July 29, 2008 Lecavalier was borderline turtling by the end. Well I don't want to hijack the thread, but let it be known that I disagree that "Iginla kicked his arse." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doggy 130 Report post Posted July 29, 2008 (edited) Well I don't want to hijack the thread, but let it be known that I disagree that "Iginla kicked his arse." Okay. Perhaps it was a slight exaggeration. Iginla won the fight very easily. Better? Edit: ...and would win a fight with Vinny the next ten out of ten times too. Edited July 29, 2008 by Doggy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seeinred 1,488 Report post Posted July 29, 2008 Okay. Perhaps it was a slight exaggeration. Iginla won the fight very easily. Better? Edit: ...and would win a fight with Vinny the next ten out of ten times too. Fiiiine I'll bite: I don't even know that Iginla won, but I'm probably just giving Lecavalier a slight handicap. Vinny landed some pretty damn good shots to Iginla, and Iggy landed a few to Vinny. I think the only reason it looks like Lecavalier turtles is because he fell down, not because he was getting his ass handed to him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lets go pavel 2 Report post Posted July 29, 2008 Back on topic, both Iginla and Z are great players, the kind you build a team around. We have Z, and I would never trade him for Iginla ... if it were the reverse and we had Iginla, I would never trade him for Hank. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phazon 24 Report post Posted July 29, 2008 okay the poll has gotten pretty ridiculous now http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=539490&page=5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
