Radulov wants to come back lMAO

[wingfanatic4alltime 32]

From yahoo lmao oh i hope Nashville doesnt take him back http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_dadd...?urn=nhl,107077

[Kira 451]

Ah, the grass did not turn out to be greener on the other side of Murfreesboro. Sorry, Sasha, you blew that one. You wanted to leave, you left. Stay gone.

[Sebastian 0]

He cant come back since the Preds suspended him for the whole season next year

[#19=Legend 29]

"Because despite these differences, we share the main objective - to develop our sport worldwide. That is why the NHL, despite everything, brings their clubs in Europe, cooperating with us in the World Championships, the Olympic Games and now the Victoria Cup. On the other hand, the NHL must understand that by taking so many more players from Europe during this past year without compensation, they are killing European hockey.

"For the development of this game, Europe also needs good players and an interesting level of play in their national leagues. As in the story of the hen and the golden eggs, we are ready to share the golden eggs with the NHL, but if you kill the hen which lays them, no one will have them. The way things are going, pretty soon Europe simply won't be able to deliver as many Sundins, Forsbergs, Ovechkins and Malkins."

The NHL isnt really stealing players. They want to come play here. Simple as that.

as for the global league... idk. It would be kinda cool. But I dont think I would like it.

It would be cool to call the Wings the best team in the World, reather than best in the NHL.

And i dont get that last statement in that quote. How does the players coming here, make it so europe cant produce good players?

[rage 24]

The NHL isnt really stealing players. They want to come play here. Simple as that.

as for the global league... idk. It would be kinda cool. But I dont think I would like it.

It would be cool to call the Wings the best team in the World, reather than best in the NHL.

And i dont get that last statement in that quote. How does the players coming here, make it so europe cant produce good players?

We are.

[Aussie_Wing 354]

Let's not go into that whole 'world champions' debate...

[Hockeytown0001 7,652]

bahahahahaha. I'd love for the Preds to say, "Screw you, you didn't want us and now we don't want you."

[NeverForgetMac25 483]

I laughed so hard at this particular comment below it:

"Jesus, Radulov, make up your mind already!"

- Mats Sundin

[Guest GordieSid&Ted]

The NHL isnt really stealing players. They want to come play here. Simple as that.

as for the global league... idk. It would be kinda cool. But I dont think I would like it.

It would be cool to call the Wings the best team in the World, reather than best in the NHL.

And i dont get that last statement in that quote. How does the players coming here, make it so europe cant produce good players?

It's not as "simple as that". Maybe "stealing" isn't the correct word. How about "aiding/offering assistance" to players who want to defect and or breach their obligations.

(The Soviet national team repeated as world champions in 1990 and traveled to Portland, Oregon for the international Goodwill Games in July of that year. Just before a team dinner on July 22, 1990, Fedorov slipped away from the hotel where the Soviets were staying and jumped on an airplane headed to Detroit. The Red Wings immediately announced on his behalf that Fedorov had defected; the event touched off a storm of protests by Soviet officials, who threatened to boycott an upcoming series of exhibition games unless a large payment were delivered to them by the Red Wings. The team complied and Fedorov was free to begin his NHL career.)

Don't kid yourself. So what if players wanted to come here to play in the NHL. They had obligations and contracts that they broke, just like Radulov did. Back in the early 90's we started pilfering players from Europe. Fedorov's is not the only instance.

We may not have "stolen" these players in the sense that you steal a car or something. But it might as well have been receiving stolen property or such. So the Wings paid the Russians some cash for Fedorov. Who do you think made out better in the deal? The Wings or the Russian club? It's like your buddy bringing you $500 worth of stolen goods and then when the owner tracks you down you keep his goods and say, i'll give you $30 bucks for it and bugger off!

[al48 1]

It's not as "simple as that". Maybe "stealing" isn't the correct word. How about "aiding/offering assistance" to players who want to defect and or breach their obligations.

(The Soviet national team repeated as world champions in 1990 and traveled to Portland, Oregon for the international Goodwill Games in July of that year. Just before a team dinner on July 22, 1990, Fedorov slipped away from the hotel where the Soviets were staying and jumped on an airplane headed to Detroit. The Red Wings immediately announced on his behalf that Fedorov had defected; the event touched off a storm of protests by Soviet officials, who threatened to boycott an upcoming series of exhibition games unless a large payment were delivered to them by the Red Wings. The team complied and Fedorov was free to begin his NHL career.)

Don't kid yourself. So what if players wanted to come here to play in the NHL. They had obligations and contracts that they broke, just like Radulov did. Back in the early 90's we started pilfering players from Europe. Fedorov's is not the only instance.

We may not have "stolen" these players in the sense that you steal a car or something. But it might as well have been receiving stolen property or such. So the Wings paid the Russians some cash for Fedorov. Who do you think made out better in the deal? The Wings or the Russian club? It's like your buddy bringing you $500 worth of stolen goods and then when the owner tracks you down you keep his goods and say, i'll give you $30 bucks for it and bugger off!

I suppose in your world, a Northern person in 1840 should have paid a Southern slave owner if one of his slaves had run away and come to work for the Northern person, right? I suppose that the Northern person should have probably just sent the former slave back down to his owner in the south in your world.

Edited September 12, 2008 by al48

[Pskov Wings Fan 71]

I looked through some Russian hockey news sites and haven't found any mentions of Radulov wanting to go back. His team was about to play Jagr's team so there was an interview with Radulov in some newspaper. Nothing about NHL or Nashville.

[Guest GordieSid&Ted]

I suppose in your world, a Northern person in 1840 should have paid a Southern slave owner if one of his slaves had run away and come to work for the Northern person, right? I suppose that the Northern person should have probably just sent the former slave back down to his owner in the south in your world.

So you are saying Fedorov and for that matter, any player who breaks a contractual obligation to his team or country and defects to another country is akin to slavery? So Fedorov was like a slave for Russia.

[Doc Holiday 0]

It's not as "simple as that". Maybe "stealing" isn't the correct word. How about "aiding/offering assistance" to players who want to defect and or breach their obligations.

(The Soviet national team repeated as world champions in 1990 and traveled to Portland, Oregon for the international Goodwill Games in July of that year. Just before a team dinner on July 22, 1990, Fedorov slipped away from the hotel where the Soviets were staying and jumped on an airplane headed to Detroit. The Red Wings immediately announced on his behalf that Fedorov had defected; the event touched off a storm of protests by Soviet officials, who threatened to boycott an upcoming series of exhibition games unless a large payment were delivered to them by the Red Wings. The team complied and Fedorov was free to begin his NHL career.)

Don't kid yourself. So what if players wanted to come here to play in the NHL. They had obligations and contracts that they broke, just like Radulov did. Back in the early 90's we started pilfering players from Europe. Fedorov's is not the only instance.

We may not have "stolen" these players in the sense that you steal a car or something. But it might as well have been receiving stolen property or such. So the Wings paid the Russians some cash for Fedorov. Who do you think made out better in the deal? The Wings or the Russian club? It's like your buddy bringing you $500 worth of stolen goods and then when the owner tracks you down you keep his goods and say, i'll give you $30 bucks for it and bugger off!

I believe in today's world Fedorov could have come to the US to play if he had wanted to, so Radulov's little "THEY TOOK UR JURBS!!" rant doesn't really apply "during this past year". Does Lidstrom or Kronwall or Datsyuk or Zetterberg or Malkin have an obligation?

[al48 1]

So you are saying Fedorov and for that matter, any player who breaks a contractual obligation to his team or country and defects to another country is akin to slavery? So Fedorov was like a slave for Russia.

Seems as though there's only one person who's ******* stupid here as you seem completely uneducated as to how the Soviet hockey system was set up and why the players defected. There's no point in arguing with you though. Why don't you go read a little bit.

[jawbreaker 0]

Europe don't mind that their players play in the NHL. They just want a good compensation for them. Clubs in Europe invest a lot of money, and time in players. For what? So they could break contracts, and go North America for nothing (or some small fee, which is a joke). Plus, they don't want that their youngster would rot in the minors, if instead of that these players can play for their home-clubs. If NHL wants good Europeans, then they should pay for them good compensation. Technically these European players earn this money back (by entertaining people), so why not to give some of this to European clubs.

[Doc Holiday 0]

Europe don't mind that their players play in the NHL. They just want a good compensation for them. Clubs in Europe invest a lot of money, and time in players. For what? So they could break contracts, and go North America for nothing (or some small fee, which is a joke). Plus, they don't want that their youngster would rot in the minors, if instead of that these players can play for their home-clubs. If NHL wants good Europeans, then they should pay for them good compensation. Technically these European players earn this money back (by entertaining people), so why not to give some of this to European clubs.

Why? They invest in players and it is the players decision if they want to go to the US. That is just the risk they have to take.

[Kp-Wings 3]

The idea of a Global League is unpractical because of travel. I had jet-lag for almost three days when I flew out to Vegas earlier this summer, and that's still in the same country. Can you imagine these guys having to fly from somewhere like, say, New York to somewhere else like Russia just for one game? Well, actually, I'm sure it'd probably be set up like the West Coast road trips we do now. Still though, that sounds awful.

[jawbreaker 0]

Why? They invest in players and it is the players decision if they want to go to the US. That is just the risk they have to take.

So simple. Just they have to take the risk.

If NHL doesn't want them, they can't go to the US. If NHL wants them, then NHL should pay for them. European clubs are potentially giving away a lot of money, 'cause people would probably pay more to see Ovechkin, Malkin, Backstrom, Sedin. Hockey would be more popular, as a result more money from the tickets, better TV contracts, etc.

But instead of that NHL gets all these things for free.

[Guest GordieSid&Ted]

Seems as though there's only one person who's a ******* genius around here as you seem completely uneducated as to how the Soviet hockey system was set up and why the players defected. There's no point in arguing with you though. Why don't you go read a little bit.

Fixed that for you your Majesty.

Then please enlighten me and everyone else around here.

From where I am sitting, it doesn't matter how much they paid or didn't pay Fedorov. It doesn't matter if he wanted to play in the NHL or not. From where i'm sitting it appears Fedorov had an OBLIGATION in some way, shape or form to his Russian club and perhaps even to his country.

He DEFECTED. Maybe i'm too dense to figure it out but it seems pretty simple and clear cut.

I'm not saying I am against what Fedorov did. All i'm saying is that Radulov only did to the Preds, what many a European player had done to their respective team in years past.

So exactly what reading do I need to do to get up to speed on what you seem to know?

Edited September 12, 2008 by GordieSid&Ted

[Guest GordieSid&Ted]

I believe in today's world Fedorov could have come to the US to play if he had wanted to, so Radulov's little "THEY TOOK UR JURBS!!" rant doesn't really apply "during this past year". Does Lidstrom or Kronwall or Datsyuk or Zetterberg or Malkin have an obligation?

Hell Doc, I don't know the circumstances of every player. I'm just making the point that what Radulov did is pretty much no different than what many European players have done in years past. Personally, I understand the uproar people have over Rads leaving and I understand the point they're making when they say he should be made to honor his contract.

The only point i'm making is that nobody here ever demanded Fedorov go back to Russia and make good on his obligations. We're all excited when players come over here and don't give a rat's ass about their clubs or their countries or their lost revenue from having these players come to the US. But when a player leaves the US (Rads, Jagr, etc....) people feel so ******* slighted and start flaming the crap out of these guys. There's a hell of alot of hypocrisy when it comes to this is all i'm saying.

[Nightfall 871]

I looked through some Russian hockey news sites and haven't found any mentions of Radulov wanting to go back. His team was about to play Jagr's team so there was an interview with Radulov in some newspaper. Nothing about NHL or Nashville.

I agree, this is all hearsay. Paul Kelly says that Radulov wants to come back. Radulov isn't saying he wants to come back. The title of this thread is incorrect. It should read "NHLPA director says Radulov wants to come back."

When Radulov himself says it, or comes back to the USA to be with the Predators, I will believe it.

[Guest nutz2u]

Seems as though there's only one person who's ******* stupid here as you seem completely uneducated as to how the Soviet hockey system was set up and why the players defected. There's no point in arguing with you though. Why don't you go read a little bit.

The difference between Rudalov and Fedorov is that Rudalov, unlike Fedorov did not have the Iron curtain to deal with. Your not comparing oranges to oranges. In my opinion slavery is and always has been morally wrong although I'm sure there are folks who don't agree with me.

[Doc Holiday 0]

So simple. Just they have to take the risk.

If NHL doesn't want them, they can't go to the US. If NHL wants them, then NHL should pay for them. European clubs are potentially giving away a lot of money, 'cause people would probably pay more to see Ovechkin, Malkin, Backstrom, Sedin. Hockey would be more popular, as a result more money from the tickets, better TV contracts, etc.

But instead of that NHL gets all these things for free.

These people have the right to play wherever they damn well please. They can't just not play there if they have the talent and the NHL wants them. It is capitalism and the NHL is probably the best place for hockey players to play.

GST, I see nothing wrong with a player leaving to go play wherever they like, but the main gripe I believe people have in this situation is Radulov badmouthing the NHL for having a lot of foreign players. I think that is terribly unprofessional to badmouth a former employer to that degree in public. At least that is my deal. Also, Radulov AGREED to his contract here, while Fedorov may not have necessarily wanted to have a long contract with the Soviet Union. There is a difference between revolting against an oppressive organization and biting the hand that feeds you. At least that is what seems to be the case if Radulov did indeed breach his contract with Nashville. If not then the only problem I have is his "NHL SUCKS BRAWAWWAW" mentality.

[jawbreaker 0]

These people have the right to play wherever they damn well please. They can't just not play there if they have the talent and the NHL wants them. It is capitalism and the NHL is probably the best place for hockey players to play.

GST, I see nothing wrong with a player leaving to go play wherever they like, but the main gripe I believe people have in this situation is Radulov badmouthing the NHL for having a lot of foreign players. I think that is terribly unprofessional to badmouth a former employer to that degree in public. At least that is my deal. Also, Radulov AGREED to his contract here, while Fedorov may not have necessarily wanted to have a long contract with the Soviet Union. There is a difference between revolting against an oppressive organization and biting the hand that feeds you. At least that is what seems to be the case if Radulov did indeed breach his contract with Nashville. If not then the only problem I have is his "NHL SUCKS BRAWAWWAW" mentality.

If they have the talent and the NHL wants them. Then the NHL should pay for them. Many clubs in Europe make their money thanks to the transfer fee. I know that in the US players get traded, but in Europe it doesn't work like that.

You want the player, you pay for him. Pretty clear and simple.

[MacK_Attack 108]

Sounds like the NHLPA trying to put words in Radulov's mouth in order to influence an arbitration hearing.