Guest Crymson Report post Posted October 28, 2008 BS penalty. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted October 28, 2008 Good calm hands by Stuart with the puck a foot from the goal line. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seeinred 1,488 Report post Posted October 28, 2008 Good calm hands Stuart with the puck a foot from the goal line. For real. That could have been really bad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aussie_Wing 354 Report post Posted October 28, 2008 Why is Maltby out there on the PK? The first PK meanwhile... And this might be controversial but I think Cleary is expendable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Mule 0 Report post Posted October 28, 2008 I love how dangerous Hossa and Datsyuk are on the penalty kill. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted October 28, 2008 End of the 2nd Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Konnan511 1,736 Report post Posted October 28, 2008 True. I'd argue that Helm and Abdelkader are superior to Maltby and Draper right now though. The only reason they're still playing is because of our loyalty and the fact they'll be needed come playoff time. I'd also say because they know the system. These young guys have GREAT energy and bring tons of excitement, but they need to get the system down better and they will be mainstays when they do so. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungGuns1340 1 Report post Posted October 28, 2008 Why is Maltby out there on the PK? The first PK meanwhile... And this might be controversial but I think Cleary is expendable. Ehh, Clearys got the eye injury thing going on thats really hampered his vision on the ice. If he gets over that, he could be back to his normal self. Hes been friggin deadly on the PK, though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aussie_Wing 354 Report post Posted October 28, 2008 (edited) I'd also say because they know the system. These young guys have GREAT energy and bring tons of excitement, but they need to get the system down better and they will be mainstays when they do so. Surely the way to "get the system down better" is to play? And I just realised, Cleary is signed for a further 4 years after this year, the last 3 being at $3million per season! Overpayment or what! Edited October 28, 2008 by Aussie_Wing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heaton 1 Report post Posted October 28, 2008 Surely the way to "get the system down better" is to play? And I just realise, Cleary is signed for a further 4 years after this year, the last 3 being at $3million per season! Overpayment or what! All that matters is the average cap hit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted October 28, 2008 Why is Maltby out there on the PK? The first PK meanwhile... And this might be controversial but I think Cleary is expendable. Not controversial. Just wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aussie_Wing 354 Report post Posted October 28, 2008 Quincey! "Hockey's fun again". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FinRedWing 172 Report post Posted October 28, 2008 Good morning! We got this,right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungGuns1340 1 Report post Posted October 28, 2008 [/b] I'd also say because they know the system. These young guys have GREAT energy and bring tons of excitement, but they need to get the system down better and they will be mainstays when they do so. On the other hand, theres no way they can get that experience unless they can play. Abdelkader is one thing, but Helm knows our system by now. Hes played in the regular season, the playoffs, practiced with the team, and stayed as long as possible through training camp. Guys like Leino and Abs I can understand, but Helm already knows our business. Ideally though, the Wings would go after a solid vet that can pump up our 4th line - a guy like Ott or Nichol on our 4th line would be awesome and would be the type to make guys like Draper and Maltby elevate their game. Its one thing to be outrun by a youngster, but its another thing entirely when you're being outdone by a guy your own age - Can't blame that on rookie excitement. The 4th line very much needs a Drakian injection/contagion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted October 28, 2008 Quincey! "Hockey's fun again". I think he's referring to that it's no fun when you're not playing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aussie_Wing 354 Report post Posted October 28, 2008 (edited) Not controversial. Just wrong. Fair enough. He's a good fit for this team, can score as well as playing good defence, but perhaps not quite worth what he's getting paid. But hey, I've got nothing against him and I'm more than happy for him to be here. I think he's referring to that it's no fun when you're not playing Yeah, he's said he liked it here and we had a great group of guys. Edited October 28, 2008 by Aussie_Wing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Casey 145 Report post Posted October 28, 2008 Okay, who are the 4% of Wings fans who want fighting banned? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Konnan511 1,736 Report post Posted October 28, 2008 Surely the way to "get the system down better" is to play? And I just realised, Cleary is signed for a further 4 years after this year, the last 3 being at $3million per season! Overpayment or what! At the time he signed the contract it seemed like a steal for how he played and how important he was to the team, but since then he has a couple of injuries that seems to have shaken his confidence to none and with the improving play of Filppula and the emergence of Franzenstein, coupled with the fact we have Leino, Helm, Abdelcader, Ritola all waiting in the minors who could play at the NHL level now, it surely does make that large contract of Cleary expendable, especially considering Clearys dismall offensive showings. He has been playing OUTSTANDING defense, simply outstanding work, but the fact he only has 4 points and is a -4 is what makes him expendable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted October 28, 2008 Why is Maltby out there on the PK? The first PK meanwhile... And this might be controversial but I think Cleary is expendable. Doesn't matter, regardless of agreement or disagreement---he has an NTC. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Mule 0 Report post Posted October 28, 2008 The Wings need to come out flying in the 3rd. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hokike 1 Report post Posted October 28, 2008 I dunno why so many assume that grass is greener on the other side of fence. From where fans take that somwhere in team's bench are better players in waiting?? The fact is that you play with thouse you have and you have to live with that... Give this player a chance, I want to see that guy....Sry but coach sees those guys every day in practice and his work is not to showcase players to whining fans This is a response to those who always demand to see GR guys or demand trades... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Konnan511 1,736 Report post Posted October 28, 2008 Okay, who are the 4% of Wings fans who want fighting banned? Moms of sons who get their asses kicked in school. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted October 28, 2008 Fair enough. He's a good fit for this team, can score as well as playing good defence, but perhaps not quite worth what he's getting paid. But hey, I've got nothing against him and I'm more than happy for him to be here. Yeah, he's said he liked it here and we had a great group of guys. It's early yet, but remember that he's had two 40 point seasons. If he stays healthy, he could put up more. He's defensively responsible, and he's not afraid to go into corners. I'm not totally up on the relative value of contracts, but 2.5 mill for 40+ points and a good two-way forward seem reasonable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted October 28, 2008 Doesn't matter, regardless of agreement or disagreement---he has an NTC. He does? I didn't know that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Konnan511 1,736 Report post Posted October 28, 2008 On the other hand, theres no way they can get that experience unless they can play. Abdelkader is one thing, but Helm knows our system by now. Hes played in the regular season, the playoffs, practiced with the team, and stayed as long as possible through training camp. Guys like Leino and Abs I can understand, but Helm already knows our business. Ideally though, the Wings would go after a solid vet that can pump up our 4th line - a guy like Ott or Nichol on our 4th line would be awesome and would be the type to make guys like Draper and Maltby elevate their game. Its one thing to be outrun by a youngster, but its another thing entirely when you're being outdone by a guy your own age - Can't blame that on rookie excitement. The 4th line very much needs a Drakian injection/contagion. No I know, I was more or less playing Devil's Advocate. Maltby and Drapes can be waived today and I wouldn't shudder. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
