miller76 463 Report post Posted November 28, 2008 He's got a six year deal because it's going to take some time to get things back on track. I don't think he'll get impatient right away and he's got lots of job security in order to take things fairly slowly. I honestly hope so. I am an obvious die-hard Wing fan, but I would really like to see the Leafs get turned around. The city and their fans deserve a better showing than what they have received in many years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MacK_Attack 108 Report post Posted November 28, 2008 (edited) The Kaberle/Kubina watch is officially on, and teams could pay a high price, but who can afford rentals these days? Particularly a $5 million rental in Kubina? Seriously, what does a team gain with Pavel? Anyway, teams pay heavily for good D because they are very very rare. Who leads the Leafs' defence next year with no Kaberle/Kubina? Schenn? Van Ryn? Finger? Ian White? Tell me which one of these guys below makes you think "Now THERE's a guy to build our defence around!" http://www.nhlnumbers.com/freeagents.php?t...&status=ufa Antropov is on pace for like 60-65 points and over 30 goals, somebody will pay up for that at the deadline for offensive depth in the playoffs. He's a big, strong guy that can play all three forward positions. A 2nd rounder isn't asking too much for him, in fact, it might not be asking enough. Kubina's not a rental, he's got one more year left at $5 million. Not a bargain, but not bad considering what defencemen go for on the open market. Schenn is the guy of the future, he's extremely solid. If Kaberle was to go for Jeff Carter & 1st round pick last year, he'll should go for something similar this year. He mentioned in training camp to leaving his options more open this year, so I'd say he'll probably waive his no-trade to go somewhere that he prefers. They would be foolish to not try and land J-Bo this summer, doubt they'll get him, but he's worth a shot. There's no way they'd leave the blueline with Schenn, Stralman and a few spare parts. Burke's always been known to build strong bluelines, so I don't think that's an area that he'll expose. I would think he'd probably look to the trade route to bolster the defence. I would be shocked if Kaberle AND Kubina got traded and there wasn't a solid young defenceman coming back the other way in one of the deals. Again, it's a slow process. It would be foolish to assume that it can be turned around overnight. Edited November 28, 2008 by MacK_Attack Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted November 28, 2008 I honestly hope so. I am an obvious die-hard Wing fan, but I would really like to see the Leafs get turned around. The city and their fans deserve a better showing than what they have received in many years. I'd tend to agree with that. Though I normally can't stand Leafs fans, it would be good to get a good team back in Toronto to create that buzz the Leafs always give off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CrossoverThrash 0 Report post Posted November 28, 2008 Burke sucks, let him rot in toronto Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doggy 130 Report post Posted November 28, 2008 Tell me which one of these guys below makes you think "Now THERE's a guy to build our defence around!" Luke Schenn is obviously that guy. I can't believe that question was even asked. Kinda off-topic, I wonder if the Leafs will pick up his little bro, Braydon? When's he eligible for the draft? This year or next? I hear he's very much on the ML radar. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Proud 2 B a Wings Fan 0 Report post Posted November 28, 2008 Finally a GM that can do what he wants when he wants to do it. Maybe for a while but as long as the same two boneheads are running MSLE no GM will ever have complete say and control in the day to day operations of the Toronto Maple Leafs. Mark my word there is no way Burke is still in Toronto after 4 years let alone 6 :!: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest mindfly Report post Posted November 28, 2008 What will happen to Cliff Fletcher now? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bellarina 1 Report post Posted November 28, 2008 Yeah, you're right. A GM with a Stanley Cup ring is such a step down from John Ferguson Jr. He should hand over the ring to the GM who really built the team, Bryan Murray. I 'd rather have ferguson, he only screwed up one team. Burke is a laughing stock ruins every team he goes to. Oh well the laffs will remain the laffs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,232 Report post Posted November 28, 2008 And so begins the death of Canadian hockey as we know it. I don't like Burke, but come on. Odds are, Burke will make this team more competitive than it's been in ages. Sure, they'll probably crash and burn after a few good seasons. But if you want to talk about ruining Canadian hockey, look at the piss-poor seasons the Leafs have been putting in for years and years and years now. That's how you really kill Canadian hockey. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edicius 3,269 Report post Posted November 28, 2008 Yeah, you're right. A GM with a Stanley Cup ring is such a step down from John Ferguson Jr. Well, if that was the only criteria, they could have probably gotten other one-Cup-wonders like Jay Feaster or Jim Rutherford for much cheaper (and yes, I know the Leafs HAD contacted Rutherford). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted November 28, 2008 What will happen to Cliff Fletcher now? Well the 1st thing that happened to him was that he's no longer in Mack_Attacks av Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MacK_Attack 108 Report post Posted November 28, 2008 What will happen to Cliff Fletcher now? Staying on as a consultant. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MacK_Attack 108 Report post Posted November 28, 2008 Maybe for a while but as long as the same two boneheads are running MSLE no GM will ever have complete say and control in the day to day operations of the Toronto Maple Leafs. Mark my word there is no way Burke is still in Toronto after 4 years let alone 6 :!: Brian Burke would not be taking this job if he didn't have complete and final say in all hockey operations. His contract is worded EXACTLY the same as Bryan Colangelo's. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ilmickeyli 40 Report post Posted November 28, 2008 Hossa and Gaborik to Toronto? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akustyk 84 Report post Posted November 28, 2008 it seems like people think Burke is the worst GM when he was with the ducks. But now that he is in toronto it seems like he is the best GM ever... i dunno thats what iam getting out of it... sure i think he was bad in ANA even with the cup.... But i dont think he suddenly change with Toronto. no. I'm about thinking he will suck as much in Toronto as he did in Anaheim. the only difference is that now TSN staff will need to burn some sun tan and hide their brown noses from praising "NHL's best GM". and the great news is that Dan Cloutier is at this moment available in UFA market and the Leafs have plenty cap space to throw on him. now seriously... this might turn out to be a good deal for the Leafs for next 3 seasons but let's not get to far ahead. let's get back to evaluating Burke in say 5-6 years when he bails out from a mess in Toronto... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
servo 15 Report post Posted November 28, 2008 Poor poor Toronto. Time to get rid of skill and build the team to kill. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted November 29, 2008 Poor poor Toronto. Time to get rid of skill and build the team to kill. You must not know Leafs fans, there psychos, thats exactly the hockey they've always loved. Why some people will argue Clarke was the best power forward ever, and that Tucker was better then Sundin, and that Domi was a legend. They love rough hockey, Burke is the perfect fit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MacK_Attack 108 Report post Posted November 29, 2008 You must not know Leafs fans, there psychos, thats exactly the hockey they've always loved. Why some people will argue Clarke was the best power forward ever, and that Tucker was better then Sundin, and that Domi was a legend. They love rough hockey, Burke is the perfect fit. Wendel Clark is not the best power forward ever. Darcy Tucker was never better than Sundin Tie Domi is nothing but a tarnished, distant memory. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rage 24 Report post Posted November 29, 2008 I gotta say, I love this thread even if it has turned to a bit of an attack Mack-Attack party. I still can't wait to see who will take on Pavel Kubina at the trade deadline if the Leafs can move him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ArcticWing 0 Report post Posted November 29, 2008 Huge mistake by Leafs! Very few coaches have merits to six-year contract, and Burke sure ain't one of them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeeRYCE 2 Report post Posted November 29, 2008 Burke makes bold moves that are hit or miss. Not sure how much he will help this team. I'm sure he'll North Americanize it a little more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zion 93 Report post Posted November 29, 2008 ZOMG. WHEN DID THIS HAPPEN??????? THIS IS TOTALLY OUT LEFT FIELD!!!! I HAD NO IDEA SOMETHING LIKE THIS COULD HAPPEN!!!111!1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted November 29, 2008 Wendel Clark is not the best power forward ever. Darcy Tucker was never better than Sundin Tie Domi is nothing but a tarnished, distant memory. Mack, your obviously not one of them . But from what I've seen of Leafs fans, the majority of them love rough hockey, and blue collar guys. I was just trying to make an example that Burke is a perfect fit, which you agree with. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CaliWingsNut Report post Posted November 29, 2008 My condolences to the Maple Leafs fan base... Think we can have more articles about burke? I mean he's only the focus of 8 different articles on the front page of tsn. The picture of him on every hockey website is too small too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites