going_top_shelf 6 Report post Posted January 9, 2009 How would you feel if the Wings acquiring Tavares...eventually. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RWK23 0 Report post Posted January 9, 2009 (edited) Uhhhh....happy? That's how I'd feel anyway. Really, really happy. Edited January 9, 2009 by RWK23 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CenterIce 83 Report post Posted January 9, 2009 How would you feel if the Wings acquiring Tavares...eventually. It would be nice, but realistically, it would either have to come from a big trade (probably giving up too much in return), or he would have to sign as a free agent (years down the road). Basically, I am saying there is about a 0% chance of it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungGuns1340 1 Report post Posted January 9, 2009 Well, if you're talking about trading for Tavares, or the 1st round pick in general, then I'd probably be more sad about who we had to give up to get Tavares than how happy I'd be to get Tavares. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seraph 240 Report post Posted January 9, 2009 That wouldn't be our style. We build up our team differently. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shoreline Report post Posted January 9, 2009 It would be neat, if not for the sake of him playing, for the sake of having a really good trade prospect. However, blowing hot air. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miller76 463 Report post Posted January 9, 2009 I am sure he will be taking up residence on Long Island. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grim 5 Report post Posted January 9, 2009 kinda sad how the Leafs are trying to tank this season to land Tavares. the ironic reality is, they aren't doing a good job at that either! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
egroen 384 Report post Posted January 9, 2009 For the Wings, I'd rather have Hedman. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z and D for the C 712 Report post Posted January 9, 2009 The Wings don't need #1 draft picks to be the best in the league. I'd feel dirty if we ended up getting him somehow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjlegend 155 Report post Posted January 9, 2009 I hope he goes out East because I'd hate to see him four to eight times a year for the other team. With the lottery, though... Dallas or somebody we really don't like could end up with him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
puckbags 863 Report post Posted January 9, 2009 kinda sad how the Leafs are trying to tank this season to land Tavares. the ironic reality is, they aren't doing a good job at that either! Typical Leafs...they aren't good at anything !! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest mindfly Report post Posted January 9, 2009 (edited) Tavares is overrated, can only score in powerplays it seems, he's kinda random during 5on5, and he doesnt play pk, and dont back check good, meaning no 2way player, just a goalscorer, they come in every/every other draft while a guy like hedman is more rare... the team who gets 1st overall pick should pick hedman in 90% of the cases if they arent extremely stacked with good D-men. Tavares is far from a ovechkin, crosby, thornton (1st overall players) so i wouldn't be that "happy" Edited January 9, 2009 by mindfly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hank 0 Report post Posted January 9, 2009 How would you feel if the Wings acquiring Tavares...eventually. I'd love it! The idea is outlandish to begin with, but if we're dreaming we might as well indulge. I would love to have Tavares on the Wings. A young Canadian kid with huge scoring potential??? Sign me up! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doggy 130 Report post Posted January 9, 2009 Tavares is overrated, can only score in powerplays it seems, he's kinda random during 5on5, and he doesnt play pk, and dont back check good, meaning no 2way player, just a goalscorer, they come in every/every other draft while a guy like hedman is more rare... the team who gets 1st overall pick should pick hedman in 90% of the cases if they arent extremely stacked with good D-men. Tavares is far from a ovechkin, crosby, thornton (1st overall players) so i wouldn't be that "happy" Mindfly, how many games have you watched JT play? He is not far from those guys at all. Especially Thornton. He'll be outscoring Joe in no time. Your opinion is very biased and you're new to hockey. Learn the game a little more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest mindfly Report post Posted January 9, 2009 I saw every canada game last year and this year(world juniors) and im not impressed, and this was juniorhockey as well... you can't tell for sure how bad/good he will be when facing real men but its certain that its more difficult in seniorhockey. PS: I'm not new to hockey, ive played all my life and watched NHL since it became available in sweden in the 90's so just zip it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doggy 130 Report post Posted January 9, 2009 Nah I'm pretty sure you're very new to the game. Nothing to be ashamed of buddy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shoreline Report post Posted January 10, 2009 Tavares is overrated, can only score in powerplays it seems, he's kinda random during 5on5, and he doesnt play pk, and dont back check good, meaning no 2way player, just a goalscorer, they come in every/every other draft while a guy like hedman is more rare... the team who gets 1st overall pick should pick hedman in 90% of the cases if they arent extremely stacked with good D-men. Tavares is far from a ovechkin, crosby, thornton (1st overall players) so i wouldn't be that "happy" I sense a response of jealousy, because Tavares is praised and Canadian, who beat your beloved Sweden. What I find interesting is NO mention of Hedman, but who was given the awards for Best Player, who was put on the All-Star team, and who was the tournament MPV? Hedman! Oh wait, maybe not: Awards Directorate Best Player Awards Top Goalie: Jacob Markström, SWE Top Defenseman: Erik Karlsson, SWE Top Forward: John Tavares, CAN Media All-Star Team Goaltender: Jaroslav Janus, SVK Defenseman: Erik Karlsson, SWE Defenseman: PK Subban, CAN Forward: John Tavares, CAN Forward: Cody Hodgson, CAN Forward: Nikita Filatov, RUS MVP John Tavares, CAN I won't go so far as to repeat what Doggy said that you don't know much about hockey, but I will say it's obvious you are clearly biased and jealous of the attention Tavares is getting for no good reason. If Tavares goes #1 it's because he earned it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungGuns1340 1 Report post Posted January 10, 2009 If I were a prospect, I would play below my level of capability, just so I would have a chance of being drafted by the Red Wings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted January 10, 2009 (edited) I saw every canada game last year and this year(world juniors) and im not impressed, and this was juniorhockey as well... you can't tell for sure how bad/good he will be when facing real men but its certain that its more difficult in seniorhockey. PS: I'm not new to hockey, ive played all my life and watched NHL since it became available in sweden in the 90's so just zip it. Last year he was PP only and the odd 5on5 shift in blowout games, and he excelled at that. Was touranment MVP this year. How is that overated? He doesnt play D? You gotta get some OHL games if you want to see his defensive game, wait till he goes to London he might just become the most complete player not in the NHL, probably will. His talents and love for the game are like no one elses, this kid was playing AAA at 8, and in the OHL at 14. That is sick. Once Dale Hunter is done with him the last thing people will be calling Tavares is overated. BTW, being able to score "only on the PP" is something ALOT of teams in the NHL would love, oh one being Vancouver, who signed Mats Sundin for that exact reason, which they've stated many times already. If anything, Hedman is overated. All I've heard about him is that he's the Swedish pronger, next Lidstrom etc. He looked more like the next Anders Erikkson then anything, so that right there SHOULD tell you all you need to know about analyzing players performance in that tournament. Edited January 10, 2009 by Detroit # 1 Fan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest mindfly Report post Posted January 10, 2009 I see him as another Stamkos.. and what is Stamkos doing... went from 20min icetime to under 8 to a healthy scratch, not many pts either and he was also pretty darn good in the OHL. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest mindfly Report post Posted January 10, 2009 Last year he was PP only and the odd 5on5 shift in blowout games, and he excelled at that. Was touranment MVP this year. How is that overated? He doesnt play D? You gotta get some OHL games if you want to see his defensive game, wait till he goes to London he might just become the most complete player not in the NHL, probably will. His talents and love for the game are like no one elses, this kid was playing AAA at 8, and in the OHL at 14. That is sick. Once Dale Hunter is done with him the last thing people will be calling Tavares is overated. BTW, being able to score "only on the PP" is something ALOT of teams in the NHL would love, oh one being Vancouver, who signed Mats Sundin for that exact reason, which they've stated many times already. If anything, Hedman is overated. All I've heard about him is that he's the Swedish pronger, next Lidstrom etc. He looked more like the next Anders Erikkson then anything, so that right there SHOULD tell you all you need to know about analyzing players performance in that tournament. I can say the same to you, watch Hedman in the SEL when he's playing with a really good D-man next to him whom is also very defensive minded, hedman can really show his potential.. playing with a lunatic like karlsson and that other offensive minded d-man just force hedman to only play defense. OHL is a juniorleague and i dont care what he plays like versus other kids, he's gotta be the same dominate force when playing in a high level seniorleague (NHL/SEL/KHL) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swiss_fan 3 Report post Posted January 10, 2009 I see him as another Stamkos.. and what is Stamkos doing... went from 20min icetime to under 8 to a healthy scratch, not many pts either and he was also pretty darn good in the OHL. Dude! don't be so rough with Stamkos, Lecavalier had almost the same first season as him. The guy is.... just 19 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doggy 130 Report post Posted January 11, 2009 I see him as another Stamkos.. and what is Stamkos doing... went from 20min icetime to under 8 to a healthy scratch, not many pts either and he was also pretty darn good in the OHL. But I thought you didn't follow hockey before Stamkos was drafted? I think you're just pulling stuff out of your butt. You need to learn more about the game, dude. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maaq 0 Report post Posted January 11, 2009 We talk and talk about Stamkos, but what about who he's surrounded by? Look at the TB team this year and the head coach. Thank you, now you all understand why Stamkos isn't playing at the leve that everyone believed he would. Now, to Tavares. It would be a scarier scene if he would end up in Detroit for two reasons: 1 - How badly would we have to slump to finish so low to get the first draft pick? 2 - What would we have to give up to get that first draft pick? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites