PROBIE4PREZ 58 Report post Posted January 13, 2009 Looking at our current cap situation for next year I was pondering the thought of trading rafalski. His contract is eating up 6 mill a season and with Ericsson coming up next year someone is getting bumped. Dont get me wrong his play in the Offensive zone is awesome but it's at the other end where he is the weakest. His contract is greatly over paying after next year. Lidstrom imo wont be back after next season and Rafalski-Kronwall as our #1 d line sucks. Trade the dude for a 1st rounder or something. All im saying is something will have to give next year and this is a quick n painless fix. oh and losing Franzen Kopey n Maltby. Datsyuk 6.7 Hossa 7.25 Val 3 Cleary 2.8 z 7.25 homer 2.25 drapes 1.583333 Sammy f/a huds 2.9 franzen f/a matly demoted helm 0.599444 kopey f/a Lieno 0.875 abdelkador 0.85 downey 0.475 Ericcson 0.9 Lidstrom 7.45 raffi trade Stuart 3.75 Kronwall 3 Lilja 1.25 Lebda 0.65 Meech 0.483333 chelios 0.5 oz 1.416667 howard 0.733 56.665777 Kenny Holland i kno you search theses boards all day for your roster answers and this is the golden ticket. now do it damn it. and heres hoping the cap goes no where Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
egroen 384 Report post Posted January 13, 2009 Small problem: Rafalski has a no-trade clause. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PROBIE4PREZ 58 Report post Posted January 13, 2009 bahh for all the remaining years? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
egroen 384 Report post Posted January 13, 2009 Yup. Filppula and Kronwall are about the only big ticket players that can be traded at this point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PROBIE4PREZ 58 Report post Posted January 13, 2009 Scuba steve DAMN YOU!! damn i hate this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
r0bert8841 0 Report post Posted January 13, 2009 mayb instead of trading raf, we keep him and franzen have draper, homer, and malts retire after cup win trade filp, lilja, lebda and meetch/erikson and some prospects for a really hi pick (hedman!) sign kope and sammy to really cheap deals so we have some depth sign huds to 3 mil franzen to 5 hossa and z to 7 ( idk if thats enough but im no getting out a calculater but it shouold b with the annihilation of the roster) and bring up a ton of prospects and have a veteran team full or superstars and rookies franzen - pav - Z hossa - leino - huds sammy - helm - abdelkader koper - Downey - some cheap ufa? lids - raf krons - stu hedman - erikson/meetch osgood howard i did it! i found the golden ticket! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheOwl 77 Report post Posted January 14, 2009 Homer is one of the better players on the team, getting rid of him for cap space isn't the greatest idea. Either way, Flipulla has to go. And honestly, I don't see Conklin leaving. Howard isn't a #1, and Larsson and that other guy aren't near ready for the NHL. Osgood can't be the go to guy either. We all want to keep Franzen, Hossa and Z obviously. But wouldn't you rather have a real #1 goalie? Wild's Backstrom for a long-term deal would be well worth losing Hossa. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PROBIE4PREZ 58 Report post Posted January 14, 2009 mayb instead of trading raf, we keep him and franzen have draper, homer, and malts retire after cup win trade filp, lilja, lebda and meetch/erikson and some prospects for a really hi pick (hedman!) sign kope and sammy to really cheap deals so we have some depth sign huds to 3 mil franzen to 5 hossa and z to 7 ( idk if thats enough but im no getting out a calculater but it shouold b with the annihilation of the roster) and bring up a ton of prospects and have a veteran team full or superstars and rookies franzen - pav - Z hossa - leino - huds sammy - helm - abdelkader koper - Downey - some cheap ufa? lids - raf krons - stu hedman - erikson/meetch osgood howard i did it! i found the golden ticket! you totally butchered the roster ... the point is to keep this nhl squad together as much as possible... lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ms_Hockey 0 Report post Posted January 14, 2009 you totally butchered the roster ... the point is to keep this nhl squad together as much as possible... lol I'd get rid of Filpulla. Rafalski can't be traded due to his contract. Filpulla just hasn't been performing this year. I don't know if he's going to wake up later in the season or what - but I'd seriously consider trading him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ms_Hockey 0 Report post Posted January 14, 2009 Homer is one of the better players on the team, getting rid of him for cap space isn't the greatest idea. Either way, Flipulla has to go. And honestly, I don't see Conklin leaving. Howard isn't a #1, and Larsson and that other guy aren't near ready for the NHL. Osgood can't be the go to guy either. We all want to keep Franzen, Hossa and Z obviously. But wouldn't you rather have a real #1 goalie? Wild's Backstrom for a long-term deal would be well worth losing Hossa. No. I wouldn't rather have a "real #1 goalie". If we keep our defense strong, we don't need a #1 goalie. There's no sense in putting money between the pipes if you don't need it. Keep the money on D, and relax a bit between the pipes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PROBIE4PREZ 58 Report post Posted January 15, 2009 Flip's 3 mill isnt enough .. need to find another 3 mill to dispense ... oscar kevin? angela ? any good accountants around here ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swiss_fan 3 Report post Posted January 16, 2009 Yup. Filppula and Kronwall are about the only big ticket players that can be traded at this point. No there is also Stuart, and i wouldn t be surprised if he would be traded at the end of the year, having then a NTC. Obviously we have too much people and too much dollars tied up in D. The question is who will be moved for Kindl and Ericcson. Lebda? I don t think so, but even with him, then? Lilja? too cheap to be moved with the level of his performances.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheOwl 77 Report post Posted January 18, 2009 No. I wouldn't rather have a "real #1 goalie". If we keep our defense strong, we don't need a #1 goalie. There's no sense in putting money between the pipes if you don't need it. Keep the money on D, and relax a bit between the pipes. I'm not talking about a 5 million dollar a year goalie, I'm talking about a goalie who can at least stop the damn puck. Look at our D tonight, was it strong, or did the goalie just suck? What team in the league right now is excelling without a decent starting goalie? None. Look at Boston, they get Thomas for basically nothing, and will win the Vezina in all likely hood. Defense is completely meaningless if your goalie gives up 3+ goals every night. And you're kidding yourself if you wouldn't trade Kronwall or Stuart for someone like Backstrom, or Thomas. The D is strong, and the puck still goes in the net way too much. You have no idea what your talking about if you think Detroit is going to get buy and win anymore Cups in the next few years if Osgood is the best we got. Conklin though is a #1 goalie, and should be signed long term. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ms_Hockey 0 Report post Posted January 19, 2009 I'm not talking about a 5 million dollar a year goalie, I'm talking about a goalie who can at least stop the damn puck. Look at our D tonight, was it strong, or did the goalie just suck? What team in the league right now is excelling without a decent starting goalie? None. Look at Boston, they get Thomas for basically nothing, and will win the Vezina in all likely hood. Defense is completely meaningless if your goalie gives up 3+ goals every night. And you're kidding yourself if you wouldn't trade Kronwall or Stuart for someone like Backstrom, or Thomas. The D is strong, and the puck still goes in the net way too much. You have no idea what your talking about if you think Detroit is going to get buy and win anymore Cups in the next few years if Osgood is the best we got. Conklin though is a #1 goalie, and should be signed long term. Our defense is nowhere near what it was last season. Almost anybody agrees with that. THEY are what we should be focusing on. Put Conklin as a start, Osgood as a backup, and straighten out the defense and we'll have no problems. There's no need to start trading players away if you have perfectly good ones and a system that has shown time and time again that it works. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted January 22, 2009 The roster I expect to see next season will include the following changes from the current roster: Hossa, Lebda, Chelios, and Conklin will all depart either through free agency, retirement, or trading. Remaining free agents will be retained. Larsson, Ericsson, and Helm will be the new full-time players on the Wings, with Meech serving double-duty as the 7th defenseman and 13th forward due to cap constraints. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Datsyerberger 279 Report post Posted January 22, 2009 The roster I expect to see next season will include the following changes from the current roster: Hossa, Lebda, Chelios, and Conklin will all depart either through free agency, retirement, or trading. Remaining free agents will be retained. Larsson, Ericsson, and Helm will be the new full-time players on the Wings, with Meech serving double-duty as the 7th defenseman and 13th forward due to cap constraints. I'd like to know what contracts Sammy, Franzen, and Hudler are getting under your plan, eva. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
