RedWingAbner 13 Report post Posted February 20, 2009 Well see next year... if Crosby actually has someone to play with. Yeah, god, can't wait to see a guy like Malkin with him. Can you imagine the #'s he'd put up with Marian Hossa? If only for a few games, it would have to be like 4-5 points a game. Oh wait. Nope, just a good player. Nothing overly special. Not too flashy, but good. See Thornton, Joe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest NumbaSixty-Six Report post Posted February 20, 2009 Yeah, god, can't wait to see a guy like Malkin with him. Can you imagine the #'s he'd put up with Marian Hossa? If only for a few games, it would have to be like 4-5 points a game. Oh wait. Nope, just a good player. Nothing overly special. Not too flashy, but good. See Thornton, Joe. Whatever. I am perfectly fine with having the 2 best players in the league on my city's team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carman 387 Report post Posted February 20, 2009 Yeah, I'm defending Crosby, but it's quite evident Ovechkin is the better player that's no contest. I personally love Crosby's game, and have been following him since I first heard about him 5 years ago. If you think he is a boring player, then you a much different view of hockey then me, and that's fine Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted February 20, 2009 Anyone who thinks Crosby won't be asked to be on team Canada is delusional. Anyone who thinks Crosby is the best player on his team is also delusional. Anyone who thinks Crosby is one of the five best players in the league? You guessed it. Delusional. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest NumbaSixty-Six Report post Posted February 20, 2009 (edited) Anyone who thinks Crosby won't be asked to be on team Canada is delusional. - AGREE Anyone who thinks Crosby is the best player on his team is also delusional. -AGREE Anyone who thinks Crosby is one of the five best players in the league? You guessed it. Delusional. - Ok this is a stretch NHL fans are ridiculous the Kid won just as many Harts,Ross, and Pearson awards than the "Great Ovechkin". Crosby is just injury prone and doesn't have solid linemates like Ovechkin... for the pass year Ovechkin hasn't been seperated from backstrom. Top 5? 1.) Malkin - I really don't think Malkin's defensive game gets enough credit. He has maybe the best pick-pocket ability in the NHL, and he has the eyes in the back of his head compilmented with a amazing shot. He is so balanced offensively, if you look at the greats in the NHL they are mostly considered "play-makers" but Malkin is so versatile that I see a 50 Goal 100 Assist season in his future (He was on pace for that this year until **** Therrien changed to "Safe is Life"). This last attribute was not used in the ranking, however from what I can gather about Malkin he doesn't mind being side by side with Sid instead of infront of him, also he shows emotion and passion not on his sleeve like Ovechkin but just enough. 2.) Datsyuk - What can I tell you that you don't already know? The League's Reigning Selke winner. He not only can back-check like no one else in the league but he can dazzle you with amazing breakaway/shootout dangles. I would rank him higher but his offensive teamplay ability is not as elite. 3.) Ovechkin Alexander Ovechkin is the ultimate goal scorer. Ovechkin has the ability to score a goal from anywhere on the ice and shoot a one-timer from any pass. Alex not only has uncanny ability to see a play unwind and be in the right place at the right time he also has blinding speed and knows how to use his body. It some times seems like Ovechkin never gets tired, every shift you could swear its like he was shot out of a cannon. 4.)Crosby Sidney Crosby broke into the league at 18 years old and was a instant super star, he has shown unrivaled ability as a super charged play-maker. Crosby is a Hybrid of grit,finese,athleticism, he may be the best board working super star in the league. He grinds in the corners, deflects pucks in front all a super star caliber, and compilments all with amazing play-making ability. 5.) Zack Parise Incase your wondering where Zetterberg is... he is number 6 Edited February 20, 2009 by NumbaSixty-Six Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedWingAbner 13 Report post Posted February 20, 2009 Crosby does not have "unrivaled talent." The reason he came into the league as a "superstar" is because he was hyped as one, not because he did anything amazing. Good. Not amazing. The top 10 players in hockey: 1. Alexander Ovechkin 2. Pavel Datsyuk 3. Evgeni Malkin 4. Henrik Zetterberg 5. Roberto Luongo 6. Nicklas Lidstrom 7. Zdeno Chara 8. Joe Thornton 9. Sydney Crosby 10. Tomas Kopec....I mean....Rick Nash Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest NumbaSixty-Six Report post Posted February 20, 2009 (edited) Crosby does not have "unrivaled talent." The reason he came into the league as a "superstar" is because he was hyped as one, not because he did anything amazing. Good. Not amazing. The top 10 players in hockey: 1. Alexander Ovechkin 2. Pavel Datsyuk 3. Evgeni Malkin 4. Henrik Zetterberg 5. Roberto Luongo 6. Nicklas Lidstrom 7. Zdeno Chara 8. Joe Thornton 9. Sydney Crosby 10. Tomas Kopec....I mean....Rick Nash Hmmm considering crosby is 21 and has a higher PPG avg then anyone on that list... Henrik Zetterberg has 50 points playing with allstar teamates... its a joke he has 50 points. Edited February 20, 2009 by NumbaSixty-Six Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeeRYCE 2 Report post Posted February 20, 2009 Crosby is easily the best player on Canada (at this point). Why the hell does he have to be ahead in the NHL scoring race by 20 points to be even considered the best? BUT, enough of Crosby talk! I think Canada should look like this, without the reserves... Forwards Crosby Getzlaf Lecavalier Thornton Iginla Nash Heatley M. Richards Doan Morrow Gagne St. Louis Defense Phaneuf Weber Green Bouwmeester Keith Boyle Goalies Brodeur Luongo Price Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedWingAbner 13 Report post Posted February 20, 2009 Hmmm considering crosby is 21 and has a higher PPG avg then anyone on that list... Henrik Zetterberg has 50 points playing with allstar teamates... its a joke he has 50 points. Yeah, Luongo sucks because he has 0 goals. Obviously I am being a bit extreme, but Zetterberg largely played on the 2nd unit for much of this year-- plus, he is a better defensive forward than most in the NHL. If you posed the question-- Who would you take to start a franchise-- Crosby or Zetterberg-- the answer would favor Zetterberg. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest NumbaSixty-Six Report post Posted February 20, 2009 (edited) Obviously I am being a bit extreme, but Zetterberg largely played on the 2nd unit for much of this year-- plus, he is a better defensive forward than most in the NHL. - Bah Bah Bah BS. This is something that will blow you out of the water.... Malkin has more blocked shots and More forced turnovers than your Swedish Meatball Zetterberg. I don't mean to pick on you personally but it seems to be a common thing for wing fans to act like their players are better than their stats/production. If you posed the question-- Who would you take to start a franchise-- Crosby or Zetterberg-- the answer would favor Zetterberg. If you posed the question-- Who would you take to start a franchise-- Crosby or Zetterberg-- the answer would favor Zetterberg LOL? Crosby = Insta Superstar.... Zetterberg took how long to develope? Plus Crosby has such a much high PPG avg.. I really don't understand how you could say he is better. List of the Best Wingers in the game. 1. Ovechkin 2. Iggy 3.Kovalchuk 4. Hossa 5. Heatley Edited February 20, 2009 by NumbaSixty-Six Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Never_Retire_Steve 35 Report post Posted November 9, 2009 Lecavalier - Crosby - Iginla Heatley - Thornton - Carter Gagne - Savard - Getzlaf Morrow - M. Richards - Doan Spezza, Cammaleri Niedermayer - Bouwmeester Keith - Phaneuf Boyle - Green Regehr Brodeur Luongo Price After the playoffs and after the off-season I decided to re-check this team and made the following adjustments to the team before the season started. Lecavalier - Crosby - Iginla Heatley - Toews (Savard) - Carter E. Staal (Gagne) - Thornton - Getzlaf Morrow - M. Richards - Nash (Doan) St. Louis (Spezza), Cammaleri Niedermayer - Bouwmeester Keith - Phaneuf Weber (Boyle) - Seabrook (Green) Regehr Brodeur Luongo Fleury (Price) Anyone else change any of their olympic rosters since last February? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yzerfan1999 81 Report post Posted November 9, 2009 Niedermayer - Bouwmeester Keith - Phaneuf Weber (Boyle) - Seabrook (Green) Anyone else change any of their olympic rosters since last February? You took Boyle off and put Weber on instead? Boyle is playing really well right now. He is on my Team Canada for sure. Here is mine, for what its worth. So difficult to chose who doesn't make the team, so I just went with my gut, and who I think can perform when it counts. Nash - Crosby - Iginla Perry - Getzlaf - Heatley Morrow - Richards - Doan Smyth - Toews - St. Louis Carter - Lecavalier (Had a real tough time leaving E Staal off, but he has something like 5 pts this season) Pronger - Niedermayer Boyle - Bouwmeester Keith - Weber Phaneuf Brodeur Luongo Fleury I see we agree on the Morrow Richards Doan line. Thats a killer shutdown line who can also score some goals. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Never_Retire_Steve 35 Report post Posted November 10, 2009 This was my team before the season started, I think there will be a couple tweaks before it gets announced Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rage 24 Report post Posted November 10, 2009 I just stated a Olympic Hockey website. Everyone is welcome to join up and participate in the Forums! http://www.centerice2010.com/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeeRYCE 2 Report post Posted November 10, 2009 You took Boyle off and put Weber on instead? Boyle is playing really well right now. He is on my Team Canada for sure. Here is mine, for what its worth. So difficult to chose who doesn't make the team, so I just went with my gut, and who I think can perform when it counts. Nash - Crosby - Iginla Perry - Getzlaf - Heatley Morrow - Richards - Doan Smyth - Toews - St. Louis Carter - Lecavalier (Had a real tough time leaving E Staal off, but he has something like 5 pts this season) Pronger - Niedermayer Boyle - Bouwmeester Keith - Weber Phaneuf Brodeur Luongo Fleury I see we agree on the Morrow Richards Doan line. Thats a killer shutdown line who can also score some goals. Not even mentioning Thornton is hard to believe... In my eyes, there's no way he's not on the team no matter how deep they are at center. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yzerfan1999 81 Report post Posted November 10, 2009 Not even mentioning Thornton is hard to believe... In my eyes, there's no way he's not on the team no matter how deep they are at center. Yeah, it was really tough to leave him off because of his stats, but I think you've got to either have the Getlaf - Perry connection, or the Thornton - Heatley connection, bot not both. I like what Perry and Getzlaf have done internationally better then what Ive seen out of Thornton. Because of his stats though, its tough. No matter what, 3 or 4 really good players are going to be left off the team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Lidstromboli Report post Posted November 10, 2009 Gagne - Crosby - Iginla Nash - Getzlaf - Heatley Marleau - Thornton - Perry Morrow - Richards - Doan St. Louis, Carter Pronger - Niedermayer Boyle - Bouwmeester Keith - Burns Phaneuf Brodeur Luongo Fleury i dunno about having Gagne in there, but there aren't many other left wings. if typical positions don't matter then i'd put St. Louis in his place Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yzerfan1999 81 Report post Posted November 10, 2009 Gagne - Crosby - Iginla Nash - Getzlaf - Heatley Marleau - Thornton - Perry Morrow - Richards - Doan St. Louis, Carter Pronger - Niedermayer Boyle - Bouwmeester Keith - Burns Phaneuf Brodeur Luongo Fleury i dunno about having Gagne in there, but there aren't many other left wings. if typical positions don't matter then i'd put St. Louis in his place I like what Marleau has done this season, but his has been invisible in every big game experience I have ever seen him in. I tried to avoid those kinds of players on my roster. Kind of why I left out Thornton too. But then again, who know what they will, or would have done this time around. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeeRYCE 2 Report post Posted November 11, 2009 If I were picking the team, I think I'd throw Stamkos on there. Team Canada's deep in center, but they can slap him on the wing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Never_Retire_Steve 35 Report post Posted December 30, 2009 I have seen a lot of discussion about this over the last few days so I thought I would throw in my two cents as to who should be on this team. Lecavalier - Crosby - Iginla Heatley - Thornton - Carter Gagne - Savard - Getzlaf Morrow - M. Richards - Doan Spezza, Cammaleri Niedermayer - Bouwmeester Keith - Phaneuf Boyle - Green Regehr Brodeur Luongo Price This is the team that I think will be on the ice right now if we were selecting the team today. However, there are a lot of guys that can slide in if they start next year hot or if their are any injuries. In goal, if anyone gets injured or if S. Mason starts hot I think you have to go with him. Also, if injuries are bad seasons occur, Turco is always a guy that you can count on in goal as a solid backup. The blue line seems pretty set in stone for me, the only other guy who was a toss up for me was S. Weber in Nashville. Guys like Pronger, Jovanovski are too old and I think that you need a youth movement. Brian Campbell is good but is a worse Mike Green as he has some bad defensive lapses even though he has great offensive potential. Coburn and Seabrook are other guys I considered but it would be good to have the team captain in Niedermayer back there for leadership and experience. Up front there are HUGE question marks for me, the only guys set in stone are Lecavalier, Crosby, Iginla and Thornton. There are a ton of guys that you can put up front. Guys like Kariya and Briere should be there if they are healthy and play up to there potential. You also have St. Louis and E. Staal who have had 100 point seasons and have played on team Canada in the past. Lucic would be a nice guy as an energy line player. Toews is an amazing talent and who knows where he will be next year. For me there are so many question marks up front that this team can only be decided in the fall. What are your guy's thoughts. After the playoffs and after the off-season I decided to re-check this team and made the following adjustments to the team before the season started. Lecavalier - Crosby - Iginla Heatley - Toews (Savard) - Carter E. Staal (Gagne) - Thornton - Getzlaf Morrow - M. Richards - Nash (Doan) St. Louis (Spezza), Cammaleri Niedermayer - Bouwmeester Keith - Phaneuf Weber (Boyle) - Seabrook (Green) Regehr Brodeur Luongo Fleury (Price) Anyone else change any of their olympic rosters since last February? Here's my final wish list for the roster, not necessarily who I think will make the team: Nash - Crosby - Iginla Perry - Getzlaf - B. Richards St. Louis - Thornton - Heatley Carter - M. Richards - Marleau Toews, E. Staal Regehr - Pronger Keith - Seabrook Bouwmeester - Weber Boyle Brodeur Luongo Fleury So changes since the last 10 months: Rick Nash -- Wasn't on my original team because I still wasn't sold on him but really I don't think there is a better goal scorer than him on this team so now becomes a first liner IMO Vinny Lecavalier -- Thought he would be a no brainer after first two drafts of this team but the reality of this situation is that this team is so deep down the middle that I don't think he fits well with the roster and needs to be a top 2 line guy but this year their is a better top 6 than him Toews -- Wasn't on my original roster but he is a very good all-round player and can play in almost any situation, apparently he is a good locker room presence and would make a good 13th forward. Savard -- Had him on first roster but after injuries and being a centerman there are way better options than him as a playmaking center for this team E. Staal -- Has had a lot of ups and downs over the last 10 months both performance wise and injury wise so he has tossed on and off my roster. Right now, I'd have him as a 13 or 14th forward as a winger. Gagne -- Was on my original team due to the year he had last year and the olympic experience he had from 2002 but with his performance and terrible injuries that he's had this year, he isn't even on the radar anymore Morrow -- Had him on there for his defensive capabilities but I think there are better players who may sacrifice on the defensive side but have better offensive upside without sacrificing too much defensively Doan -- Similar to Morrow Spezza -- See Savard Cammalleri -- Really think that he would fit well in this team but there are just too many good players to give a guy a spot who has really only had 1 stellar season Niedermayer -- Ok, so I know he's making this team but I just think that for his standards he is having a really bad year and there are a lot better options with youth that should be ahead of him. Pheneuf -- Last two years has been really prone to making defensive mistakes and think that there are a lot beter players on the defensive side of the puck Weber -- Is still very young and at first wasn't sold on him, however, he was unreal last year but hasn't really has as solid season this year as I would've liked but I still think he is a solid 3rd line pairing Boyle -- There's something about this guy that worries me which is why I didn't have him on the team earlier but he has put up some good numbers in the last couple years offensively while still being pretty good defensively Seabrook -- This guy is solid in every aspect of the game, I have a really hard time leaving him off the team even though I'm worried he might get passed up. Green -- Ok, so he is the best offensive defenseman in the league but I think he is so bad defensively that teams like the Russians will tear him apart when he is on the ice. Fleury -- Wasn't on my original team but has proved that he can play in the big games and come up huge when it matters, unfortunately for us Wings fan Price -- Unreal potential but just way too inconsistent, the 3 goalies are a pretty safe bet Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
