Shaman 713 Report post Posted February 23, 2009 http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=410629&...vid=DL|NHL|Home I cant believe that Sid was trying to tak AO, I would love to see them fight, but Sid's normal game, if he cant win he will overreact and cheap shot people. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hallelujahlogic 1 Report post Posted February 23, 2009 haha i would love to see this someday culminate into a knockdown dragout donnybrook at center ice. go ovie! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedSea 31 Report post Posted February 23, 2009 Ovie would destroy Sid. Crosby only gets by on cheap shots and jumping unexpecting people. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duck Guy 86 Report post Posted February 23, 2009 ''What I can say about him?'' Ovechkin said. ''He is a good player, but he talks too much.'' Ohhhh how true.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MotorCityMadness 388 Report post Posted February 23, 2009 I have a feeling that Sid is starting to feel the pressure that Ovechkin is a better player than he is Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drwscc 212 Report post Posted February 23, 2009 The little snippet of HTM I caught this morning on the way to work featured Pierre Maguire talking about how the whole Caps team were being mean to Crosby for the whole game. He was saying stuff like "Most of the time, when players are all fresh in the first period, there is alot of chirping going on, but this was another level. They were talking to Sid throughout the whole game." The Caps had a plan to take advantage of Sid's temper, and they succeeded. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowingsgo 3 Report post Posted February 23, 2009 Crosby isn't in the same level as talent as Ovechkin. Isn't even close. Crosby is clearly frustrated that his team is struggling Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z and D for the C 712 Report post Posted February 23, 2009 I think the words "crosby" and "frusterated" have been used more in the same sentence than another other combination of words in history. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lovin Jiri Fischer 147 Report post Posted February 23, 2009 (edited) I found this article about it from the Pens board. Pretty much the same thing. Ovechkin is twice the man Croby will ever be. http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=268281&...os=topStory_nhl This is the video. Edited February 23, 2009 by Lovin Jiri Fischer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ms_Hockey 0 Report post Posted February 23, 2009 Crosby just shouldn't try and play a physical game. He's proven time and time again that he can't handle it. Ovie would've made butter out of him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Secret 304 Report post Posted February 23, 2009 Who is Sidney Crosby? I think we should have a 25 page discussion about him?! Any takers? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest GordieSid&Ted Report post Posted February 23, 2009 (edited) http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=410629&...vid=DL|NHL|Home I cant believe that Sid was trying to tak AO, I would love to see them fight, but Sid's normal game, if he cant win he will overreact and cheap shot people. So let me get this straight. Ovechkin gives Crosby a little shot. Crosby retaliates. Ovechkin re-retaliates and then linesman separate it. All the while a frustrated Crosby, frustrated at losing, frustrated at being out of the playoffs, loses his temper on the ice? That's what this thread is all about? Well, I guess it has been more than 24 hours since our last bash Crosby thread. By the tone of the posts here you would think people believe Crosby should not lose his temper. Like he's the only hockey player in the history of the game how is not allowed to ever lose his temper. He's not allowed to get pissed about losing. He's not allowed to get frustrated by how his team is doing. He basically just has to fly under the radar, show zero emotion and if somebody gives him a whack, jab, light bump, he needs to just take it and deal with it? Imagine how competitive each and every one of us probably is. And we're not pro athletes. We aren't Sidney Crosby. Those guys are in a whole different league of competitiveness that we can't even fathom. I would think I would probably lose my s*** 10x as much as Crosby if I were a pro hockey player. I don't see the relevance in this at all. If it means that there will truly be a Sid/AO rivalry and the pseudo niceties are set aside, then great. I would love to see some real hate between the 2 stars. But calling out Crosby for this? I'm not sure why people bother with this. He got shoved, he shoved back. And then AO puts his hand around Sid's throat. But out of this we get Crosby is a cheapshot artist? Lots or retard sandwiches being consumed around here this season. OMFG! I just watched the video. SERIOUSLY?! That's what people are up in arms about? Yeah, Crosby ought to get a 10 game suspension for what he did there. Worse than the McSorely incident IMHO. All this talk of these guys fighting each other and AO "making butter" out of Sid. Two guys shoved each other. That's it. WTF is the big deal? In all honesty, the little hand wave by AO is about the cheapest thing I saw in that entire clip. You don't do that. You don't taunt a guy like Kovalchuk did when he scored a PP goal and he skated past the guy who took the penalty. You don't do the golf swing thing that Andrew Peters did a few years ago. It's one thing to tell a guy to look at the scoreboard. It's another to be openly be dismissive like that and taunt a guy in that manner. I would argue if AO has something to say with his hands, then he oughta man up to and drop his gloves instead of waving. And this is coming from a guy who thinks AO is better and likes AO more than Crosby. Ridiculous thread. Edited February 23, 2009 by GordieSid&Ted Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedSea 31 Report post Posted February 23, 2009 *video snip* Crosby is such a poor loser. "He shoved me from behind". I didn't see any shove, I just saw Ovechkin trying to get off the bench while Sid was lallygagging. Then he goes on to say "That's just him". Yeah, Ovechkin is really known for his cheap shots, not his ridiculous scoring ability. How about that low blow and slew of cheap shots you gave Valabik, Sid? How about jumping Mclean? Man, what a terrible poster boy for the NHL. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
servo 15 Report post Posted February 23, 2009 This is the exact reason why I dispise Crosby and Love AO!! Both are great players but who do you want in wearing the winged wheel? It's obvious to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
esteef 2,679 Report post Posted February 23, 2009 So let me get this straight. Ovechkin gives Crosby a little shot. Crosby retaliates. Ovechkin re-retaliates and then linesman separate it. All the while a frustrated Crosby, frustrated at losing, frustrated at being out of the playoffs, loses his temper on the ice? That's what this thread is all about? Well, I guess it has been more than 24 hours since our last bash Crosby thread. By the tone of the posts here you would think people believe Crosby should not lose his temper. Like he's the only hockey player in the history of the game how is not allowed to ever lose his temper. He's not allowed to get pissed about losing. He's not allowed to get frustrated by how his team is doing. He basically just has to fly under the radar, show zero emotion and if somebody gives him a whack, jab, light bump, he needs to just take it and deal with it? Imagine how competitive each and every one of us probably is. And we're not pro athletes. We aren't Sidney Crosby. Those guys are in a whole different league of competitiveness that we can't even fathom. I would think I would probably lose my s*** 10x as much as Crosby if I were a pro hockey player. I don't see the relevance in this at all. If it means that there will truly be a Sid/AO rivalry and the pseudo niceties are set aside, then great. I would love to see some real hate between the 2 stars. But calling out Crosby for this? I'm not sure why people bother with this. He got shoved, he shoved back. And then AO puts his hand around Sid's throat. But out of this we get Crosby is a cheapshot artist? Lots or retard sandwiches being consumed around here this season. And this still surprises you? Hey, we're only following what the league is cooking up for us? And the current story is the "tough" words between Sid and Ovie. No biggie, but once again, nobody's allowed to talk about Crosby here. esteef Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carman 387 Report post Posted February 23, 2009 I'd rather have Crosby as my captain, then Zetterberg. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest GordieSid&Ted Report post Posted February 23, 2009 Crosby just shouldn't try and play a physical game. He's proven time and time again that he can't handle it. Ovie would've made butter out of him. In your infinite hockey wisdom, what should Crosby do? He takes more contact than any player in the league. If he doesn't show any emotion, doesn't shove back, he gets called a ***** around here. If he does anything remotely aggressive, he's a cheapshot artist. Substitute Crosby in that situation for Zetterberg or Hudler or Datsyuk and everybody here is creaming in their collective drawers about how our guys are so tough and sticking up for themselves and blah, blah.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest GordieSid&Ted Report post Posted February 23, 2009 And this still surprises you? Hey, we're only following what the league is cooking up for us? And the current story is the "tough" words between Sid and Ovie. No biggie, but once again, nobody's allowed to talk about Crosby here. esteef What exactly is the big story here esteef? Did you see some heinous cheapshot in there by Sid on that play? You like physical, aggressive hockey. What exactly did you see in that clip that I am missing? Looked like an unnecessary nudge by AO that Crosby didn't like, so he shoved back. Is this earth shattering news when 2 hockey players do this? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z and D for the C 712 Report post Posted February 23, 2009 So let me get this straight. Ovechkin gives Crosby a little shot. Crosby retaliates. Ovechkin re-retaliates and then linesman separate it. All the while a frustrated Crosby, frustrated at losing, frustrated at being out of the playoffs, loses his temper on the ice? That's what this thread is all about? Well, I guess it has been more than 24 hours since our last bash Crosby thread. By the tone of the posts here you would think people believe Crosby should not lose his temper. Like he's the only hockey player in the history of the game how is not allowed to ever lose his temper. He's not allowed to get pissed about losing. He's not allowed to get frustrated by how his team is doing. He basically just has to fly under the radar, show zero emotion and if somebody gives him a whack, jab, light bump, he needs to just take it and deal with it? Imagine how competitive each and every one of us probably is. And we're not pro athletes. We aren't Sidney Crosby. Those guys are in a whole different league of competitiveness that we can't even fathom. I would think I would probably lose my s*** 10x as much as Crosby if I were a pro hockey player. I don't see the relevance in this at all. If it means that there will truly be a Sid/AO rivalry and the pseudo niceties are set aside, then great. I would love to see some real hate between the 2 stars. But calling out Crosby for this? I'm not sure why people bother with this. He got shoved, he shoved back. And then AO puts his hand around Sid's throat. But out of this we get Crosby is a cheapshot artist? Lots or retard sandwiches being consumed around here this season. OMFG! I just watched the video. SERIOUSLY?! That's what people are up in arms about? Yeah, Crosby ought to get a 10 game suspension for what he did there. Worse than the McSorely incident IMHO. All this talk of these guys fighting each other and AO "making butter" out of Sid. Two guys shoved each other. That's it. WTF is the big deal? In all honesty, the little hand wave by AO is about the cheapest thing I saw in that entire clip. You don't do that. You don't taunt a guy like Kovalchuk did when he scored a PP goal and he skated past the guy who took the penalty. You don't do the golf swing thing that Andrew Peters did a few years ago. It's one thing to tell a guy to look at the scoreboard. It's another to be openly be dismissive like that and taunt a guy in that manner. I would argue if AO has something to say with his hands, then he oughta man up to and drop his gloves instead of waving. And this is coming from a guy who thinks AO is better and likes AO more than Crosby. Ridiculous thread. Crosby acts like a ***** and cheaps shots other all the time when his team is losing because he can't handle it. You don't see datsyuk, zetterbeg, hossa, ovechkin doing these kinds of things. That is why no one likes him. How can you not despise anyone who does this: Regardless of who it is. If a red wings player did that I'd be disgusted. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ms_Hockey 0 Report post Posted February 23, 2009 In your infinite hockey wisdom, what should Crosby do? He takes more contact than any player in the league. If he doesn't show any emotion, doesn't shove back, he gets called a ***** around here. If he does anything remotely aggressive, he's a cheapshot artist. Substitute Crosby in that situation for Zetterberg or Hudler or Datsyuk and everybody here is creaming in their collective drawers about how our guys are so tough and sticking up for themselves and blah, blah.. I'm not looking for a fight - and if you're going to be rude, I see no reason to respond. All I'm saying is that Crosby makes a FAR better finesse player than he does a physical player. If he wants to drop the gloves and fight, somebody needs to teach him how first. And I'm not the only person who thinks that. There's been articles about it, as well. For example, from Fox Sports: "If you want to take out your frustrations on the opposition, fine. Just do it like a real hockey player. There's no reason to jump a guy on a faceoff and start flailing away before your man even has a chance to look up. Of course, Sid had a handy excuse ready to explain away his behavior, which netted him 19 minutes in penalties." (Written after a "fight" with Florida's Brett McLean.) Defend him all you want, but he's not a physical player. And if you want to excuse his poor physical skills because of frustration, be my guest. But there's a way to fight someone - and he certainly doesn't do it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lovin Jiri Fischer 147 Report post Posted February 23, 2009 So let me get this straight. Ovechkin gives Crosby a little shot. Crosby retaliates. Ovechkin re-retaliates and then linesman separate it. All the while a frustrated Crosby, frustrated at losing, frustrated at being out of the playoffs, loses his temper on the ice? That's what this thread is all about? Well, I guess it has been more than 24 hours since our last bash Crosby thread. By the tone of the posts here you would think people believe Crosby should not lose his temper. Like he's the only hockey player in the history of the game how is not allowed to ever lose his temper. He's not allowed to get pissed about losing. He's not allowed to get frustrated by how his team is doing. He basically just has to fly under the radar, show zero emotion and if somebody gives him a whack, jab, light bump, he needs to just take it and deal with it? Imagine how competitive each and every one of us probably is. And we're not pro athletes. We aren't Sidney Crosby. Those guys are in a whole different league of competitiveness that we can't even fathom. I would think I would probably lose my s*** 10x as much as Crosby if I were a pro hockey player. I don't see the relevance in this at all. If it means that there will truly be a Sid/AO rivalry and the pseudo niceties are set aside, then great. I would love to see some real hate between the 2 stars. But calling out Crosby for this? I'm not sure why people bother with this. He got shoved, he shoved back. And then AO puts his hand around Sid's throat. But out of this we get Crosby is a cheapshot artist? Lots or retard sandwiches being consumed around here this season. OMFG! I just watched the video. SERIOUSLY?! That's what people are up in arms about? Yeah, Crosby ought to get a 10 game suspension for what he did there. Worse than the McSorely incident IMHO. All this talk of these guys fighting each other and AO "making butter" out of Sid. Two guys shoved each other. That's it. WTF is the big deal? In all honesty, the little hand wave by AO is about the cheapest thing I saw in that entire clip. You don't do that. You don't taunt a guy like Kovalchuk did when he scored a PP goal and he skated past the guy who took the penalty. You don't do the golf swing thing that Andrew Peters did a few years ago. It's one thing to tell a guy to look at the scoreboard. It's another to be openly be dismissive like that and taunt a guy in that manner. I would argue if AO has something to say with his hands, then he oughta man up to and drop his gloves instead of waving. And this is coming from a guy who thinks AO is better and likes AO more than Crosby. Ridiculous thread. This thread is about the words that they said about each other afterward. Just like any other two players, if they talk crap about each other off the ice, yeah we wanna hear about it! I love hockey gossip just as much as anyone else. And we don't have another game till Wednesday so what else is there to talk about (besides goaltending right)? And the video clip is there so we can see the context. Some of us would like to see the incident that they are talking about so we can make our own judgement. No one put a gun to your head and forced you to read. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
b.shanafan14 733 Report post Posted February 23, 2009 Ovie touches Sid on his way to the bench and Sid has a hissy fit. Haven't seen this before... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z and D for the C 712 Report post Posted February 23, 2009 What exactly is the big story here esteef? Did you see some heinous cheapshot in there by Sid on that play? You like physical, aggressive hockey. What exactly did you see in that clip that I am missing? Looked like an unnecessary nudge by AO that Crosby didn't like, so he shoved back. Is this earth shattering news when 2 hockey players do this? He does it ALL THE TIME. Cheap shoting isn't the same as standing up for yourself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HkyTwn 5 Report post Posted February 23, 2009 If you're so mad about a thread being started about this (which I thought was interesting because I've read through most of the other threads) then go start one that has substance according to you. Don't whine about what other people want to talk about. I read the responses, no one seems up in arms about anything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites