wings1110 184 Report post Posted April 25, 2009 I know we have no problem playing the body but we need a fighter to stand up for Hank pavs, and nik sr. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z and D for the C 712 Report post Posted April 25, 2009 we need a fighter to stand up for Hank pavs, and nik sr. This is based on what? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uk_redwing 495 Report post Posted April 25, 2009 I know we have no problem playing the body but we need a fighter to stand up for Hank pavs, and nik sr. I think with Ericsson and hopefuly Abs in the line up next season we will be a little gritier. Only a little though. With the cap and players leaving, hopefully we can have Downey on the roster next season as well. Hes still in top physical form. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rivalred 630 Report post Posted April 25, 2009 I think with Ericsson and hopefuly Abs in the line up next season we will be a little gritier. Only a little though. With the cap and players leaving, hopefully we can have Downey on the roster next season as well. Hes still in top physical form. And here I thought you would go 1 post without mentioning him. The Wings have been tough this season when need be especially the play of late of Stuart, Franzen, Pavel, and Helm. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lets go pavel 2 Report post Posted April 25, 2009 Hey, here's a topic we haven't seen before! Ignoring the issue of whether they SHOULD add more grit (that tends to get ugly), I think there's actually a decent chance they will add more. We are going to be losing a decent number of forwards from our roster ... any of Hossa, Hudler, Sammy, Kopecky, Maltby and Draper (retirement?) could be gone next year, or others via trade. With our salary cap issues and raises to Z and Franzen we're going to need to fill some of those holes with inexpensive players. Leino and Helm will probably be here, but after that who knows? I'd guess if we need another cheap guy, there's a good chance he'll be more of a sandpaper guy ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wings1110 184 Report post Posted April 25, 2009 I think with Ericsson and hopefuly Abs in the line up next season we will be a little gritier. Only a little though. With the cap and players leaving, hopefully we can have Downey on the roster next season as well. Hes still in top physical form. speaking of grit from our griffans players what a rough last minute last night Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uk_redwing 495 Report post Posted April 25, 2009 And here I thought you would go 1 post without mentioning him. ? Is or is this not a topic about grit? Did or did the OP not mention protecting star players? Is or is not Downey under contract to Detroit? How is he not relevant here? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reds4Life 51 Report post Posted April 25, 2009 Wings are gritty and tough enough. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rivalred 630 Report post Posted April 25, 2009 (edited) ? Is or is this not a topic about grit? Did or did the OP not mention protecting star players? Is or is not Downey under contract to Detroit? How is he not relevant here? Look below. Wings are gritty and tough enough. ^^^ This. Edited April 25, 2009 by Rivalred Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uk_redwing 495 Report post Posted April 25, 2009 Look below. ^^^ This. Fail. Thats one opinion. Doesnt stop others from having a different opinion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rivalred 630 Report post Posted April 25, 2009 Fail. Thats one opinion. Doesnt stop others from having a different opinion. I think I am not the only one getting tired of you turning threads into a "I want to marry Downey" and just want to make sure this thread does not head into that direction. The Wings have played with sandpaper-esque grit this year, especially of late without Downey. Plain and simple. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uk_redwing 495 Report post Posted April 25, 2009 I think I am not the only one getting tired of you turning threads into a "I want to marry Downey" and just want to make sure this thread does not head into that direction. The Wings have played with sandpaper-esque grit this year, especially of late without Downey. Plain and simple. You want to make sure this thread doesnt turn into a Downey thread by quoting me and then talking about Downey yourself? You sir = Epic fail. *adds to ignore list* Thou shall not feed the troll. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cicada 4 Report post Posted April 25, 2009 the days of a dedicated enforcer are over Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rivalred 630 Report post Posted April 25, 2009 (edited) the days of a dedicated enforcer are over Pretty much. Many enforcers had to change their style of play to fit into the "New NHL." A guy that can put up 50-60 points and lay on the body is much more useful to be honest, more dimensional, more bang for your buck. Edited April 25, 2009 by Rivalred Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
esteef 2,679 Report post Posted April 25, 2009 Keep Ericsson up, bring up AppleFritter and Downey and have him teach Franzen to fight, or Swap Lilja for Rivet, bring in Carcillo and have him teach Kopecky to fight, or just let Lilja handle everything. esteef Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LIDDYGIBBY5 1 Report post Posted April 25, 2009 Please don't use the word grit when you mean a fighter. Those two things aren't the same. This team is very gritty! The further you go in the playoffs, the less effective a fighter is. I wouldn't take a single player out of this lineup for someone whose job is to fight, and not much else! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shoreline Report post Posted April 25, 2009 (edited) we need a fighter to stand up for Hank pavs, and nik sr. That's Kenny's or Babs' decision. And I'm perfectly happy with it if they say we don't need enforcers/fighters up and down the team. Since it's in the middle of a playoff run though, I don't quite see the relevance of looking ahead in this manner, unless you see teams constantly beating up on Lidstrom or Datsyuk, in which case I'd ask, "where?". I'm not much of a fan of making changes to a team just because of an idealism, but because it's necessary. I don't see the necessary reason for a change in these regards. They've certainly not needed anyone to "stand up for" them this year. Edited April 25, 2009 by Shoreline Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LIDDYGIBBY5 1 Report post Posted April 25, 2009 Fail. Thats one opinion. Doesnt stop others from having a different opinion. Opinions can't be wrong, but that doesn't mean that they have to be correct! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LIDDYGIBBY5 1 Report post Posted April 25, 2009 Keep Ericsson up, bring up AppleFritter and Downey and have him teach Franzen to fight, or Swap Lilja for Rivet, bring in Carcillo and have him teach Kopecky to fight, or just let Lilja handle everything. esteef How about we just keep Franzen scoring goals and not worry so much about the fighting. Or maybe we can bring in players like Rivet and Carcillo for no other reason than the fight mentoring and then really f-up the salary cap! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rivalred 630 Report post Posted April 25, 2009 What is the point to pay a guy league minimum to 1 million who can not skate, pass, or score to protect 20 other players? The money could be used more wisely for a player who is more offensive and defensive minded which is the Wings philosophy. They love players who can play 2 ways, some examples: Pavel Hank Hossa Fil Franzen Nick x 2 Brian Helm And I am sure there is more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MaynardJKeenan 1 Report post Posted April 25, 2009 I think I am not the only one getting tired of you turning threads into a "I want to marry Downey" and just want to make sure this thread does not head into that direction. The Wings have played with sandpaper-esque grit this year, especially of late without Downey. Plain and simple. QFT Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wings1110 184 Report post Posted April 25, 2009 Keep Ericsson up, bring up AppleFritter and Downey and have him teach Franzen to fight, or Swap Lilja for Rivet, bring in Carcillo and have him teach Kopecky to fight, or just let Lilja handle everything. esteef lilja will not be able to fight anymore after his head injury the doctors said he cant fight ever again Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wings1110 184 Report post Posted April 25, 2009 That's Kenny's or Babs' decision. And I'm perfectly happy with it if they say we don't need enforcers/fighters up and down the team. Since it's in the middle of a playoff run though, I don't quite see the relevance of looking ahead in this manner, unless you see teams constantly beating up on Lidstrom or Datsyuk, in which case I'd ask, "where?". I'm not much of a fan of making changes to a team just because of an idealism, but because it's necessary. I don't see the necessary reason for a change in these regards. They've certainly not needed anyone to "stand up for" them this year. im not sayin that we need an enforcer at all we just need a few solid players that can play well and get into the fisticuffs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shoreline Report post Posted April 25, 2009 im not sayin that we need an enforcer at all we just need a few solid players that can play well and get into the fisticuffs What's wrong with this team that requires such a change? And again, what is the need for fisticuffs and that sort of thing when this team doesn't need it to win? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Four Report post Posted April 25, 2009 I want Downey =[ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
