Chris Osgood, Possible Conn Smythe? HOF?

[Guest Shoreline]

Ozzie playing well, no doubt.

But Conklin's playoff numbers are the best.

Yep. Ozzie's 2.14GAA / 92.1 save % is nothing compared to Conklin's 0.00GAA / 100.0 save %. Ozzie's save % means he would be too vulnerable in the Finals against Pittsburgh whereas Conklin would shut them out the entire series! Ozzie is clearly a "has been" and doesn't deserve to be the starter. Conklin on the other hand is superman and can save every shot, and can fight and wrestle crocodiles like hockey great Steve Irwin.

Edited May 26, 2009 by Shoreline

[denverswingsfan 0]

Unfortunately, even as well as Ozzie has played and as many times as the coach or the players have come out praising his play, I don't see him getting it.

They didn't give it to them last year after saving their asses in the first round, posting incredible stats thru out and even starting the cup with a pair of shutouts, so I just don't see it this year either.

[kook_10 1,705]

Come on now. You really don't think that when judging a goalie's performance, you have to take into account the skill or lack thereof that's in front of him?

Of course you do have to take it into consideration, but Mike Vernon also had a boatload of talent in front in 1997 of him and took home the hardware. In lieu of a clear winner, the goalie is always a fair candidate. If Sid continues to put up numbers though, it will be tough to pry it from his small girlish hands.

[gcom007 1,465]

If we win the Cup, the Conn Smythe race is between two players alone: Ozzie and Franzen. I think Ozzie gets it if it comes down to that. He's yet again a feel good story and getting his due all across the media and he flatout deserves it the way he's played. Again, only Franzen can really compete for this and my gut tells me he's going to get more than a couple more chances at his.

[Rocket Queen 30 1]

Come on now. You really don't think that when judging a goalie's performance, you have to take into account the skill or lack thereof that's in front of him?

You also expected Franzen to lead the team in goals and points this playoffs? The guy who was 6th in reg season points? No s***? You thought Franzen would be at 1.3 ppg?

Think about what you're saying here... for just a minute... you're taking in to account the skill or lack there of ... of teams in the Stanley Cup Finals. I don't care how good your goal tender is. If your team isn't good defensively you're probably not making it to the finals. So using that logic as a qualifier for Conn Smythe purposes probably isn't that much of a factor.

As for Franzen, I didn't expect him to lead the team, but I most certainly expected him to be among the leaders. Do you remember the playoffs last year? Yeah.. I expect him to play at that level this year, especially with his shiny new contract.

[gcom007 1,465]

Unfortunately, even as well as Ozzie has played and as many times as the coach or the players have come out praising his play, I don't see him getting it.

They didn't give it to them last year after saving their asses in the first round, posting incredible stats thru out and even starting the cup with a pair of shutouts, so I just don't see it this year either.

If not for Zetterbergs great playoffs, Osgood would've gotten it last year. He's not having a playoffs like that and Franzen is not putting up as complete of a game as Z did. Plus, Osgood's come up bigger for the team this year I think on his own. We've had a lot of games where the team's looked flat and he's stolen periods and even games. Individually, he's been rock solid. Again, only Franzen's playing the kind of individual hockey to compete and unfortunately, I think it's just a bit too one dimensional and simply not quite dominating enough to overtake Osgood if he keeps it up and we win.

[Chunkylover 26]

If the Wings win the Cup, and they are able to somewhat suppress Malkin and Crosby I think Osgood has a chance. People will remember their doubts of his ability to compete in the playoffs and see how he's turned things around and been the most consistent Wing throughout their run. Maybe it shouldn't be that way, but I think the voters will take into account his ability to raise his compete-level, and the fact that a playoff MVP along with a third Cup as starter will secure his place in the Hall of Fame.

If Crosby and Malkin are able to continue with their 2+ PPG in the next round, even if they lose the Cup, one of them will be MVP.

[Drake_Marcus 890]

Franzen is Ozzie's only real competition for the Smythe, on the Wings at least.

I dunno...

Right now the following players are looking really strong for the Conn on the Wings:

1. Osgood -- He's been the most consistent in his excellence

2. Franzen -- His goal scoring's dropped off this series, so he'll have to have some more of those 2 goal games in the next little while. He won't win the Conn if he can't beat his goal scoring numbers from last year. Odds are he will pass 13, though.

3. Zetterberg -- Needs to keep putting up a point or two every game. He's been the most consistent forward in terms of points per game. He'll probably need to show he can out 'clutch' Franzen, though.

4. Lidstrom -- Still running at a point per game. If we win the cup it will because Lidstrom shut down Crosby/Malkin. If Franzen and Zetterberg can't pull away from each other and Osgood's numbers get hurt against Pitts, I think the best money is on Lidstrom.

Hossa isn't in the running at all until he can score in more than 3 out of 15 games

[Finnish Wing 110]

Leino. For pissing off Kris Versteeg (dunno if it's that hard though...)

[Konnan511 1,736]

HE'S A HAS BEEN! HIS SAVE % DURING THE SEASON MEANS HE WILL BE AWFUL IN THE PLAYOFFS!11one

I dunno man, Hossa just scored a goal last game. That means in the world of knee-jerk he's now up for the Hart, Vezina, Selke, Conn Smythe, and governor of Michigan.

:clap:

My vote would go to Filppula as he has been the playmaker for the Wings this post season and the guy who makes the plays should win the Smythe

HM: AppleFritters and Conkblock

[Drake_Marcus 890]

Leino. For pissing off Kris Versteeg (dunno if it's that hard though...)

Fair enough. He did draw, what, like 4 penalties last game? I know he drew two in one sequence to give us that 5-on-3, and he definitely drew another later in the game, so he drew at least 3.

[Headmanthepuck! 0]

I can't see Osgood getting the Conn Smythe for one reason only: Wings win the cup and nobody that isn't a Red Wings fan will say that Osgood had anything to do with winning. When the Wings win a game people say that it's due to their defence and offence. When Wings lose games people blame Osgood for it even if the entire team except him plays like crap. Lets face it, Osgood could not let a goal past him from here on and he still wouldn't be considered for Conn Symthe, but I hope I am wrong on that.

I can see Crosby winning the Conn Smythe because of his point totals, which seems to a lot of new NHL fans is the only important part of an amazing player, and two-way players aren't as good.

It all depends on what the scores are and who scores the goals and racks up the points during the Finals. If Osgood has a shutout or two and Crosby only has a few goals and assits, then Osgood could win the Conn Smythe. I think he's behind Franzen and Hank ATPIT though as far as Wings players are concerned, so they would need average Finals for Ozzie to win. Nick lost some CS momentum by not playing the last game.

[edicius 3,269]

I think as of right now he's one of the top front runners for the Conn Smyth. That seems to be the general consensous throughout the media.

Not on NHL Live today. They actually laughed off the idea of Ozzie even being considered for the Conn Smythe, trying to claim that he's been merely "okay". Ironically, it was right after they finished fellating Marc-Andre Fleury.

Of course, those two couldn't understand a joke that a caller made referring to "Bettman's daughter" on the Penguins ("Huh? Is she a defenseman or a forward? I don't get it."), so I don't give them much credit for...well, anything.

[gowingsgo 3]

Franzen would be my pick today from our roster....but the two kids in Pittsburgh are playing lights out hockey.

[Rocket Queen 30 1]

Not on NHL Live today. They actually laughed off the idea of Ozzie even being considered for the Conn Smythe, trying to claim that he's been merely "okay". Ironically, it was right after they finished fellating Marc-Andre Fleury.

Of course, those two couldn't understand a joke that a caller made referring to "Bettman's daughter" on the Penguins ("Huh? Is she a defenseman or a forward? I don't get it."), so I don't give them much credit for...well, anything.

LOL @ fellating... whatev... they won't be doing the judging.

[drwscc 212]

Of course, those two couldn't understand a joke that a caller made referring to "Bettman's daughter" on the Penguins ("Huh? Is she a defenseman or a forward? I don't get it."), so I don't give them much credit for...well, anything.

Haha, I heard that. Priceless. I have to hand it to them for shutting that guy down when he started blathering about understanding Chicago's frustration that the Wings get all the calls.

[Husker BigGuy 0]

Yep. Ozzie's 2.14GAA / 92.1 save % is nothing compared to Conklin's 0.00GAA / 100.0 save %. Ozzie's save % means he would be too vulnerable in the Finals against Pittsburgh whereas Conklin would shut them out the entire series! Ozzie is clearly a "has been" and doesn't deserve to be the starter. Conklin on the other hand is superman and can save every shot, and can fight and wrestle crocodiles like hockey great Steve Irwin.

Maybe you should leave San Francisco, and get some fresh air and water.

[Guest Shoreline]

Maybe you should leave San Francisco, and get some fresh air and water.

Why do you think NASA sent Spirit and Opportunity to San Francisco? There's no air or water around here. Just gays.

Btw, next month we're taking a trip to see the beautiful coastline in Nebraska. First I need to get my Hubble glasses repaired.

[Husker BigGuy 0]

Why do you think NASA sent Spirit and Opportunity to San Francisco? There's no air or water around here. Just gays.

Btw, next month we're taking a trip to see the beautiful coastline in Nebraska. First I need to get my Hubble glasses repaired.

The eastern border of Nebraska is the Missouri river. It has a coast line. It's fresh water, by the way. It never runs dry. Nebraska has more fresh water than any state in the United States.

One of these days, you all will be drooling over that water, and we'll probably be piping it to you at ridiculous prices, just like ethanol.

Land prices around the metropolitan areas - 20 minutes - are less than $10k per acre.

If you want a lot of Sodomites around you, you can find them in abundance in Lincoln, NE. So you could feel right at home here. The other thing that will make you feel at home is that Nebraska will tax you until it hurts.

Omaha, NE is traditional a great hockey town, and has been for decades.

You are welcome to come here in a couple of weeks and watch the College World Series, which draws more fans per game than the Stanley Cup. It's a great event.

If you want aircraft, Stratcom (former Strategic Air Command) is in Bellevue, Nebraska. President Bush flew AF1 - the only plane in the nation's sky at the time - to it on 9/11/2001.

Of course, we have our beloved Huskers, and Larry the Cable Guy, who makes people laugh.

However, one thing we have that you don't: sense of humor.

LGW!

[Guest Shoreline]

The eastern border of Nebraska is the Missouri river. It has a coast line. It's fresh water, by the way. It never runs dry. Nebraska has more fresh water than any state in the United States.

One of these days, you all will be drooling over that water, and we'll probably be piping it to you at ridiculous prices, just like ethanol.

Land prices around the metropolitan areas - 20 minutes - are less than $10k per acre.

If you want a lot of Sodomites around you, you can find them in abundance in Lincoln, NE. So you could feel right at home here. The other thing that will make you feel at home is that Nebraska will tax you until it hurts.

Omaha, NE is traditional a great hockey town, and has been for decades.

You are welcome to come here in a couple of weeks and watch the College World Series, which draws more fans per game than the Stanley Cup. It's a great event.

If you want aircraft, Stratcom (former Strategic Air Command) is in Bellevue, Nebraska. President Bush flew AF1 - the only plane in the nation's sky at the time - to it on 9/11/2001.

Of course, we have our beloved Huskers, and Larry the Cable Guy, who makes people laugh.

However, one thing we have that you don't: sense of humor.

LGW!

Serious business, folks.

Back to my *** buttsecks and incomprehensible CO2/N respiration.

[bellarina 1]

For the Wings Ozzie has been great! The Mule is also exceptional and so is Lids and Cleary.

Smythe might end up going to Malkin or Crosby if they keep up their pace, even when the Wings win the cup.

Mark my words "Ozzie is a guaranteed lock for the HoF". Anyone who does not think so, well your entitled to your opinion.

[Rocket Queen 30 1]

Serious business, folks.

Back to my *** buttsecks and incomprehensible CO2/N respiration.

no sense of humor at all I see.

[Headmanthepuck! 0]

Franzen would be my pick today from our roster....but the two kids in Pittsburgh are playing lights out hockey.

So much depends on a red # 40, glazed with game sweat beside the white goal net.

In other words, If Hank shuts down those kids like he did last year, then it's a moot point that it's going to be a Wing.

[Guest Shoreline]

no sense of humor at all I see.

Or sarcasm.

[Nev 1,085]

As I have said in previous Ozzie threads, he is our MVP right now, because if he had played in the playoffs with his regular season form, we would not have got past Anaheim, and even CBJ would have caused us problems.

And as I said repeatedly during last seasons run, the Wings do not give up many chances, but the ones they do are gilt-edged.

But still too early to call the Conn Smythe. Osgood, Datsyuk and Franzen were our best 2 players through 3 rounds last year, then Zetterberg shut down Crosby in the finals and propelled himself to the trophy. And even then Crosby is still the front runner for that trophy by a country mile right now.