Hudler re-signed?

[Guest E_S_A_D]

Don't you guys get it? He's still gone for 1... and 2, if he takes the 2.5 million per season, then I will officially be sick of this team. That would be the most overpayed and undeserving player to earn so much. Wow, what a riveting team the Wings are building for next year...

ZzzzzZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzz....

Now...

LETS GO TIGERS!

[Guest E_S_A_D]

I hate Hudler! How dare he think about his finances when the Wings are concerned!

He should be paying THEM to play here!

I'll pay him to go to Moscow.

[Echolalia 2,961]

Don't you guys get it? He's still gone for 1... and 2, if he takes the 2.5 million per season, then I will officially be sick of this team. That would be the most overpayed and undeserving player to earn so much. Wow, what a riveting team the Wings are building for next year...

A young player who has yet to hit his prime who put up 57 points playing on the third line doesn't deserve 2.5M?

[Doc Holiday 0]

I'll pay him to go to Moscow.

Cool! I hate that guy and we all need to chip in to keep this team fresh!

HURRY AND SIGN FLOYD MAYWEATHER TO GIVE THIS TEAM SOME EXCITEMENT!

[Drake_Marcus 890]

If idiots could fly this place would be an airport.

Quote of the day.

[Drake_Marcus 890]

This is a great deal, by the way. All things considered we knew Jiri was going to Russia. No two ways about it. But now we'll have his services if and when he returns for the bargain basement price of 2.85 million a season. That's stupidly cheap for a kid who just put up 57 pts.

Holland seems to think Hudler's contract has an out clause after the first year, so we just might see him back sooner than later.

Look at the track record of the KHL... they're not exactly necessarily the best at keeping their players happy. The Dynamo doesn't have the cash flow issues that some of the other KHL teams do, but the fact remains that the KHL isn't a better place to play hockey than the NHL. I've got a feeling Hudler will get his big payday and split from the KHL. If he intended on staying in the KHL indefinitely he wouldn't have gone through the hoopla of this arbitration hearing.

We all knew Hudler was going to be really tough to fit under the cap. Now we get to keep his NHL rights instead of trading him to another GM who knew he could low-ball Kenny because of the situation. Also, we get a price that will be an absolute steal for a 26 or 27 year old Hudler.

All in all, this isn't as bad as it might seem.

[Pskov Wings Fan 71]

Hudler obviously doesn't know what restricted free agency is. He said he wasn't obligated to anything.

He can't play for another NHL team. I think it is as far as restricted free agency goes. He is not obligated to play for Red Wings.

[jenova0 0]

A young player who has yet to hit his prime who put up 57 points playing on the third line doesn't deserve 2.5M?

Exactly. considering Zherdev, who put up 1 more pt., got awarded $3.9 million.

[Pskov Wings Fan 71]

Are you guys sure that if he plays two years in Russia his contract with Wings would still be in place? My guess is that it starts now and it will be done in two years and he will become UFA. My understanding is that the contracts with the Wings only matters if he returns after playing one year in Russia.

[Pskov Wings Fan 71]

Exactly. considering Zherdev, who put up 1 more pt., got awarded $3.9 million.

That is too much for Zherdev. That guy always seem to have issues follow him. He is a talented scorer but I wonder how many GMs are willing to take a chance on him at this price. For almost $4mil you would expect player to provide some reliable effort and be able to motivate himself.

[Guest E_S_A_D]

I think many of you are delusioned by what I would call Red Wing fandom, or basically a love so deep for your deep for your team that youv'e lost ratinoal scope. Jiri Hudler is a good player, yes. However, in a product of the salary cap era, he is NOT worth $5,000,000 a year OR 1/2 that as the two way player we need on the third or fourth line.

I can tell you that Jiri might come up to his career high again in points in Russia of 96 points, as he did in 2005 with GR. That league would be very much in the same par with AAA. However, 60 NHL points will likely be his peak on the Red Wings, as he is a direct result of his linemates and offensively minded defensman our team has gifted him with on shifts down the ice.

That being said... go, Jiri, go fast, and take your inflated KHL contract. Just know, as a fan that attends many games, you won't hear me cheering for you sir. Greed as trumped you here.

Lets bring our Detroit native, Mr. Grier back home.... Welcome Mikey.

[Doggy 130]

I think many of you are delusioned by what I would call Red Wing fandom, or basically a love so deep for your deep for your team that youv'e lost ratinoal scope. Jiri Hudler is a good player, yes. However, in a product of the salary cap era, he is NOT worth $5,000,000 a year OR 1/2 that as the two way player we need on the third or fourth line.

I can tell you that Jiri might come up to his career high again in points in Russia of 96 points, as he did in 2005 with GR. That league would be very much in the same par with AAA. However, 60 NHL points will likely be his peak on the Red Wings, as he is a direct result of his linemates and offensively minded defensman our team has gifted him with on shifts down the ice.

That being said... go, Jiri, go fast, and take your inflated KHL contract. Just know, as a fan that attends many games, you won't hear me cheering for you sir. Greed as trumped you here.

Lets bring our Detroit native, Mr. Grier back home.... Welcome Mikey.

I dunno man. Hudler played on the fourth line a lot and scored some pretty important goals without any Zetterberg's or Datsyuk's. I don't think you're giving him enough credit.

[Echolalia 2,961]

I think many of you are delusioned by what I would call Red Wing fandom, or basically a love so deep for your deep for your team that youv'e lost ratinoal scope. Jiri Hudler is a good player, yes. However, in a product of the salary cap era, he is NOT worth $5,000,000 a year OR 1/2 that as the two way player we need on the third or fourth line.

I can tell you that Jiri might come up to his career high again in points in Russia of 96 points, as he did in 2005 with GR. That league would be very much in the same par with AAA. However, 60 NHL points will likely be his peak on the Red Wings, as he is a direct result of his linemates and offensively minded defensman our team has gifted him with on shifts down the ice.

That being said... go, Jiri, go fast, and take your inflated KHL contract. Just know, as a fan that attends many games, you won't hear me cheering for you sir. Greed as trumped you here.

Lets bring our Detroit native, Mr. Grier back home.... Welcome Mikey.

Wait a minute, you complain that Hudler isn't worth the money he was awarded because he is a product of the system (even though he would still be playing in that system, thus his numbers wouldn't drop drastically like it seems you are implying by going to another team with a less dominant third line). But then after you finish complaining that he was awarded more than he is worth, you bring up Mike Grier's name, an aging veteran who's 1.775M salary was good for 23 points last year (and if you're going to argue that Hudler is a product of the system, then I can just as easily say that Grier was also), as a good alternative for the Wings. That's about half the point-per-game production as Hudler, and at a current depreciating value, while Hudler's numbers have steadily increased throughout his short career. And you want that here for between 1M and 1.5M less than what Hudler will be making (and I can promise you he won't accept anything less than a million)? You complain that many here suffer from Wings fandom, but at least we're still logical in our arguments.

[SouthernWingsFan 854]

I think many of you are delusioned by what I would call Red Wing fandom, or basically a love so deep for your deep for your team that youv'e lost ratinoal scope. Jiri Hudler is a good player, yes. However, in a product of the salary cap era, he is NOT worth $5,000,000 a year OR 1/2 that as the two way player we need on the third or fourth line.

I can tell you that Jiri might come up to his career high again in points in Russia of 96 points, as he did in 2005 with GR. That league would be very much in the same par with AAA. However, 60 NHL points will likely be his peak on the Red Wings, as he is a direct result of his linemates and offensively minded defensman our team has gifted him with on shifts down the ice.

That being said... go, Jiri, go fast, and take your inflated KHL contract. Just know, as a fan that attends many games, you won't hear me cheering for you sir. Greed as trumped you here.

Lets bring our Detroit native, Mr. Grier back home.... Welcome Mikey.

Just because some of us don't immediately render somebody immediately useless just because he is small, doesn't mean we've lost rational scope, unlike yourself. Generalizations aren't the best thing to do all the time.

[Doggy 130]

Just because some of us don't immediately render somebody immediately useless just because he is small, doesn't mean we've lost rational scope, unlike yourself. Generalizations aren't the best thing to do all the time.

Quit making generalisations about generalisations.

Lol. Couldn't help myself.

[SouthernWingsFan 854]

Whoops.

[Drake_Marcus 890]

Wait a minute, you complain that Hudler isn't worth the money he was awarded because he is a product of the system (even though he would still be playing in that system, thus his numbers wouldn't drop drastically like it seems you are implying by going to another team with a less dominant third line). But then after you finish complaining that he was awarded more than he is worth, you bring up Mike Grier's name, an aging veteran who's 1.775M salary was good for 23 points last year (and if you're going to argue that Hudler is a product of the system, then I can just as easily say that Grier was also), as a good alternative for the Wings. That's about half the point-per-game production as Hudler, and at a current depreciating value, while Hudler's numbers have steadily increased throughout his short career. And you want that here for between 1M and 1.5M less than what Hudler will be making (and I can promise you he won't accept anything less than a million)? You complain that many here suffer from Wings fandom, but at least we're still logical in our arguments.

Here's the thing:

Hudler--> Small, not physical.

Grier--> Big, physical.

He likes the big, physical style of player and thus he'll make any comments or argument to justify his type of player, logic and hockey watching be damned. If Hudler was 5" taller and just as physical as he is now (ie. no less tough than Franzen) 90% of the people who are applauding his departure would be in a state of panic.

[Holmstrom96 347]

Here's the thing:

Hudler--> Small, not physical.

Grier--> Big, physical.

He likes the big, physical style of player and thus he'll make any comments or argument to justify his type of player, logic and hockey watching be damned. If Hudler was 5" taller and just as physical as he is now (ie. no less tough than Franzen) 90% of the people who are applauding his departure would be in a state of panic.

Here's the thing:

Hudler--> Good, has skill

Grier--> Bad, does not have skill

[Guest E_S_A_D]

Here's the thing:

Hudler--> Small, not physical.

Grier--> Big, physical.

He likes the big, physical style of player and thus he'll make any comments or argument to justify his type of player, logic and hockey watching be damned. If Hudler was 5" taller and just as physical as he is now (ie. no less tough than Franzen) 90% of the people who are applauding his departure would be in a state of panic.

Where do you get your stats or polling numbers from?

Also, for $5,000,000 a year KHL tax free money, no sir, nobody here would be in a state of panic. I think this would be the most money he'd ever make, even if he were 6'2" and a proven 57 point MAX scorer thus far. Take the money and run Jiri!

Edited August 4, 2009 by E_S_A_D

[Echolalia 2,961]

Here's the thing:

Hudler--> Small, not physical.

Grier--> Big, physical.

He likes the big, physical style of player and thus he'll make any comments or argument to justify his type of player, logic and hockey watching be damned. If Hudler was 5" taller and just as physical as he is now (ie. no less tough than Franzen) 90% of the people who are applauding his departure would be in a state of panic.

I know penalty minutes is not a solid indicator of physicality, but generally there is a correlation: Grier only had 9 more penalty minutes than Hudler last year. That tells me that Grier may be capable of playing very physical, but he doesn't seem to be doing much of anything. Either that or he is the cleanest big-body the league has ever seen.