egroen 384 Report post Posted August 3, 2009 So Hudler signs a hometown discount with Holland right before the arbitration meeting, but is still going to Russia for two years - when he gets back he only wants to play in Detroit. That's a pretty sweet deal, actually. Most likely, Hudler will be worth a heck of a lot more than that in two years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
egroen 384 Report post Posted August 3, 2009 (edited) And by the way - for you maroons who "wouldn't sign Hudler to anything over $2m" -- Zherdev, whom had a virtually identical point total to Hudler (23 goals, 58 points), was just awarded $3.9m in arbitration. Hudler just gave Holland an awfully nice show of faith and showed some gratitutude to the Wings. Edited August 3, 2009 by egroen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest mindfly Report post Posted August 3, 2009 I hope the fans at JLA will boo him if he returns, greedy bastard... how could anyone wanna live in communist russia instead of the land of the free and the home of the brave country in the west? ridiculous! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Echolalia 2,961 Report post Posted August 3, 2009 Its funny because a couple months ago when I was thinking about how the Wings could retain everybody I kept thinking "If only Hossa or Hudler or Franzen or somebody agreed to play with another team until the Wings' cap-mess clears up in the upcoming seasons, then agrees to come back after we can move some money around to afford everyone". This is better than I could have imagined, as Hudler won't even be playing against the Wings while he is gone, and he is obliged to play for us at a good price should he return. Call up Comrie or Prospal! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KrazyGangsta 79 Report post Posted August 3, 2009 From what I understood was that he had agreed with a contract with Wings and Dynamo but eventually he has decided to go with Dynamo instead. There's nothing in that article mentioning he will stay. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z and D for the C 712 Report post Posted August 3, 2009 Hudler obviously doesn't know what restricted free agency is. He said he wasn't obligated to anything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snazzy 0 Report post Posted August 3, 2009 God I hope he won't be back. Please go to Moscow and never return, please, please, please! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShanahanMan 473 Report post Posted August 3, 2009 Confirmed: Freep And it WAS through arbitration, not beforehand as some people thought. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maltbymaniac 13 Report post Posted August 3, 2009 f hudler, i dont even want his pansy ass to play for the wings Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShanahanMan 473 Report post Posted August 3, 2009 Now, finally, the Hudler fiasco is FINISHED. Time to sign a FA Kenny!!! I can't take another minute of this unbelievably s***ty offseason! Prospal, Bertuzzi, Pyatt. Those are my top 3. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
egroen 384 Report post Posted August 3, 2009 Confirmed: Freep And it WAS through arbitration, not beforehand as some people thought. Still really confusing... Looks like they essentially agreed to an amount and gave it to the arbiter: http://blog.mlive.com/snapshots/2009/08/ji...h_the.html#more Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,965 Report post Posted August 3, 2009 (edited) God I hope he won't be back. Please go to Moscow and never return, please, please, please! This... f hudler, i dont even want his pansy ass to play for the wings ...and that! Edited August 3, 2009 by LeftWinger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aussie_Wing 354 Report post Posted August 3, 2009 Honestly, I'm losing more respect for Hudler by the day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted August 3, 2009 Grier for some hard working depth, Prospal to replace Sammy. Not gonna happen but that's about the only two players I would actually want to play for us. I could be convinced to like Bertuzzi again but I'm a bit nervous about his physical condition at this point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FifeHockeyNut 57 Report post Posted August 3, 2009 (edited) I hope the fans at JLA will boo him if he returns, greedy bastard... how could anyone wanna live in communist russia instead of the land of the free and the home of the brave country in the west? ridiculous! lol, this is a wind up right? Edited August 3, 2009 by FifeHockeyNut Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aussie_Wing 354 Report post Posted August 3, 2009 lol, this is a wind up right? Don't listen to a word he says mate, absolute clown. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
P. Marlowe 748 Report post Posted August 3, 2009 nice... if Williams signs i'm gonna be so0o0o0o0o0o pumped UP totally cant wait for the season to start we're gonna be da best Screw that. Hop on the train, buy a coat for the winter, and have fun in Moscow! I hope so, I wouldnt want his ass back after this KHL debacle. Hudler obviously doesn't know what restricted free agency is. He said he wasn't obligated to anything. God I hope he won't be back. Please go to Moscow and never return, please, please, please! f hudler, i dont even want his pansy ass to play for the wings Honestly, I'm losing more respect for Hudler by the day. If idiots could fly this place would be an airport. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted August 3, 2009 If idiots could fly this place would be an airport. Way to go---you've just called people idiotic for their opinions on a hockey matter. Have you ever been informed that all opinions are subjective? For the record, I don't want Hudler back either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wings1110 184 Report post Posted August 3, 2009 trade his rights Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peleshob 0 Report post Posted August 3, 2009 I think people are missing the positive spin on this. The possible upside is that our cap situation will look better in two years, Hudler will be a better player and we'll have him for under 3 million dollars. Of course it could be the complete opposite, but let's not be negative on LGW... oh... wait... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted August 3, 2009 (edited) If idiots could fly this place would be an airport. Yeah totally bro, I should be happy that the soft little winger signed a friggin contract a week after he signed in Russia. I've never liked Hudler, and am glad to see him go. But I'm an idiot because of that, sweet. I mean, not like a message board is a place where people can debate over opinions, this board doesnt discuss much anymore, just everybody s***ting on each other over whatever the topic at hand is. Edited August 3, 2009 by Detroit # 1 Fan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted August 3, 2009 Yeah totally bro, I should be happy that the soft little winger signed a friggin contract a week after he signed in Russia. I've never liked Hudler, and am glad to see him go. But I'm an idiot because of that, sweet. I mean, not like a message board is a place where people can debate over opinions, this board doesnt discuss much anymore, just everybody s***ting on each other over whatever the topic at hand is. Such is behavior pretty par for the course for the fellow in question. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HudlerFanatic 4 Report post Posted August 3, 2009 http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/20...hudler_two.html Arbiter awards Jiri Hudler two-year $5.75 million contract with Red Wings, still Russia-bound by Ansar Khan Monday August 03, 2009, 11:16 AM Jiri Hudler was awarded a two-year contract worth $5.75 million ($2.75 million the first season and $3 million the second season) through arbitration. That is the contract he must honor if and when he returns to the NHL, as the Red Wings will maintain his rights. But it has no bearing on the two-year, $10 million (tax-free) contract Hudler signed with the Russian league's Moscow Dynamo on July 8. The 25-year-old forward will play in Russia next season. The Wings hope he will return in a year or two to play for them. In effect, the Wings and Hudler agreed to the deal before last Thursday's arbitration hearing. But lawyers for both sides still went through the process. Hudler didn't want the Kontinental Hockey League to think he got an NHL contract through negotiation, possibly jeopardizing his deal with Dynamo. He wanted it done through arbitration, since the KHL has taken the stance that restricted free agents, even if they file for arbitration, don't have a contract and are thus free to sign in Russia. The Wings aren't sure if Hudler will ever return to the NHL, but they believe his KHL contract contains an out clause after one year. "We'd like to have Jiri in a Red Wings uniform this year, but ultimately we negotiated a number we could live with,'' Wings general manager Ken Holland said. "We think this deal is the best deal we could have hoped for in an arbitration hearing.'' Hudler eventually will be placed on the suspended list and his salary won't count against the cap. The Wings have between $2 million and $3 million under the cap, depending on a number of variables (whether Andreas Lilja is ready to start the season, whether Justin Abdelkader will start the season in Grand Rapids, whether they trade a defenseman). Holland said he continues talking with agents in an effort to sign one or two forwards before training camp. They have a one-year offer on the table to Jason Williams, who continues to explore other options. Other offensive-minded forwards available include Alex Tanguay, Petr Sykora, Todd Bertuzzi, Mike Comrie, Vinny Prospal, Maxim Afinogenov and possibly Mats Sundin. Also, if the Rangers walk away from Nikolai Zherdev's arbitration award (one year for $3.9 million), he will become an unrestricted free agent and might draw interest from the Wings. There it is plain & simple. I will miss him....I know so many of you won't and that's ok. At least I won't have to defend his scrawny butt next season! That means no arguments with Left Winger....damn, what ever shall I do?! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HudlerFanatic 4 Report post Posted August 3, 2009 http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/20...hudler_two.html Arbiter awards Jiri Hudler two-year $5.75 million contract with Red Wings, still Russia-bound by Ansar Khan Monday August 03, 2009, 11:16 AM Jiri Hudler was awarded a two-year contract worth $5.75 million ($2.75 million the first season and $3 million the second season) through arbitration. That is the contract he must honor if and when he returns to the NHL, as the Red Wings will maintain his rights. But it has no bearing on the two-year, $10 million (tax-free) contract Hudler signed with the Russian league's Moscow Dynamo on July 8. The 25-year-old forward will play in Russia next season. The Wings hope he will return in a year or two to play for them. In effect, the Wings and Hudler agreed to the deal before last Thursday's arbitration hearing. But lawyers for both sides still went through the process. Hudler didn't want the Kontinental Hockey League to think he got an NHL contract through negotiation, possibly jeopardizing his deal with Dynamo. He wanted it done through arbitration, since the KHL has taken the stance that restricted free agents, even if they file for arbitration, don't have a contract and are thus free to sign in Russia. The Wings aren't sure if Hudler will ever return to the NHL, but they believe his KHL contract contains an out clause after one year. "We'd like to have Jiri in a Red Wings uniform this year, but ultimately we negotiated a number we could live with,'' Wings general manager Ken Holland said. "We think this deal is the best deal we could have hoped for in an arbitration hearing.'' Hudler eventually will be placed on the suspended list and his salary won't count against the cap. The Wings have between $2 million and $3 million under the cap, depending on a number of variables (whether Andreas Lilja is ready to start the season, whether Justin Abdelkader will start the season in Grand Rapids, whether they trade a defenseman). Holland said he continues talking with agents in an effort to sign one or two forwards before training camp. They have a one-year offer on the table to Jason Williams, who continues to explore other options. Other offensive-minded forwards available include Alex Tanguay, Petr Sykora, Todd Bertuzzi, Mike Comrie, Vinny Prospal, Maxim Afinogenov and possibly Mats Sundin. Also, if the Rangers walk away from Nikolai Zherdev's arbitration award (one year for $3.9 million), he will become an unrestricted free agent and might draw interest from the Wings. There it is plain & simple. I will miss him....I know so many of you won't and that's ok. At least I won't have to defend his scrawny butt next season! That means no arguments with Left Winger....damn, what ever shall I do?! MODS-can you merge this one and the other with the actual data $5.75M deal......????? Please..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doc Holiday 0 Report post Posted August 3, 2009 I hate Hudler! How dare he think about his finances when the Wings are concerned! He should be paying THEM to play here! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites