Wings_Dynasty 267 Report post Posted October 20, 2009 Not sure how long Yahoo! has had this thing, but it's pretty cool. I think it is a pretty accurate way to rank teams. Although, seeing as the Wings are currently 6th, I think most people go by what teams have done in the past as opposed to current standings. Check It Out Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doggy 130 Report post Posted October 20, 2009 It's not a bad idea but I don't understand how something like this works: Matchup Results Overall Rank St. Louis 53% 19 Montreal 47% 13 If St. Louis is voted a better team than Montreal (which they clearly are) how are they ranked 19th and Montreal 13th? It's a bit of a joke, Montreal is a god-awful team this year. I noticed this sort of thing happening a few times. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest mindfly Report post Posted October 20, 2009 What's cool about it? It's more like inaccurate Wings are far from the 6th best team in the league atm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doggy 130 Report post Posted October 20, 2009 What's cool about it? It's more like inaccurate Wings are far from the 6th best team in the league atm Well who didn't see THAT coming? Mindfly -- the most predictable troll on LGW. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted October 20, 2009 What's cool about it? It's more like inaccurate Wings are far from the 6th best team in the league atm As much as it hurts, its tough to argue this if these rankings are solely based on the current state of teams. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doggy 130 Report post Posted October 20, 2009 As much as it hurts, its tough to argue this if these rankings are solely based on the current state of teams. But it isn't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted October 20, 2009 But it isn't. If people are basing it on previous seasons, perhaps. Given the off-season subtractions, the injuries and the way the team is currently not hitting its stride.....it is. That's why mindfly wrote "atm". *Should* the Wings be in the top 6 of the league given their current roster: Yes, but that doesn't change the fact that right now they aren't playing like a top 6 team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doggy 130 Report post Posted October 20, 2009 If people are basing it on previous seasons, perhaps. Given the off-season subtractions, the injuries and the way the team is currently not hitting its stride.....it is. That's why mindfly wrote "atm". *Should* the Wings be in the top 6 of the league given their current roster: Yes, but that doesn't change the fact that right now they aren't playing like a top 6 team. It's really not that difficult to interpret. The question posed is, "Which team is better?" and not "Which team is playing better at the moment?". People's opinions are that Detroit is the fifth best team in the league. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted October 20, 2009 It's really not that difficult to interpret. The question posed is, "Which team is better?" and not "Which team is playing better at the moment?". People's opinions are that Detroit is the fifth best team in the league. I understand, but mindfly's comment was in regards to how the Wings are playing at the moment. My comment didn't have to do with how talented the Wings are and whether or not they should be in the top 6. The truth is regardless of their losses in the offseason and their injuries, they should be. No worries Doggy, we were arguing apples and oranges. Cheers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Broken 16 381 Report post Posted October 20, 2009 Well who didn't see THAT coming? Mindfly -- the most predictable troll on LGW. I'd put Buffalo above the Wings at the moment... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doggy 130 Report post Posted October 20, 2009 I'd put Buffalo above the Wings at the moment... You'd hafta to dramatic, biased or incredibly stupid to honestly think Buffalo has a better team than Detroit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Broken 16 381 Report post Posted October 21, 2009 You'd hafta to dramatic, biased or incredibly stupid to honestly think Buffalo has a better team than Detroit. I'm basing it on them thoroughly outplaying and outhustling us already this season. Oh, and the fact that they are 4-1-1 right now. If that makes me stupid, biased, dramatic or all three... so be it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Theophany 110 Report post Posted October 21, 2009 (edited) I'm basing it on them thoroughly outplaying and outhustling us already this season. Oh, and the fact that they are 4-1-1 right now. If that makes me stupid, biased, dramatic or all three... so be it. They lost in OT to Montreal, who's pretty bad. They also lost to ATLANTA. Good god. That we barely showed up to the game doesn't say anything about the season. This isn't the NFL or college football. One game doesn't mean you're out of the playoffs or in the playoffs. The teams Buffalo has beaten, BTW: Wings, Preds, Coyotes, Isles. Not exactly a prestigious list, barring the Wings. Edit: On topic, it's kinda cool, and the playoff predictions are similar to the teams I think will be going from the West. But as people noted, most hockey fans will vote with the heart and not actually think about what they're voting on, thus is not really a legit tool. Edited October 21, 2009 by Theophany Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Broken 16 381 Report post Posted October 21, 2009 They lost in OT to Montreal, who's pretty bad. They also lost to ATLANTA. Good god. That we barely showed up to the game doesn't say anything about the season. This isn't the NFL or college football. One game doesn't mean you're out of the playoffs or in the playoffs. The teams Buffalo has beaten, BTW: Wings, Preds, Coyotes, Isles. Not exactly a prestigious list, barring the Wings. Is it really THAT hard to admit that, right now, the Buffalo Sabres are playing better hockey? Really? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MannyK 16 Report post Posted October 21, 2009 i like how the user-projected playoff matchups are the same teams that made the playoffs last year, with only one change.... buffalo is in. silly users.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Theophany 110 Report post Posted October 21, 2009 Is it really THAT hard to admit that, right now, the Buffalo Sabres are playing better hockey? Really? It is, because they're not. Had we played them like we played the Hawks, the Caps, the Kings, or the Avs, we would have won. Every team is gonna have off nights. The Sabers seem like they're playing great hockey because they haven't really been up against anything tough. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Broken 16 381 Report post Posted October 21, 2009 It is, because they're not. Had we played them like we played the Hawks, the Caps, the Kings, or the Avs, we would have won. Every team is gonna have off nights. The Sabers seem like they're playing great hockey because they haven't really been up against anything tough. I never said they are playing "great" hockey. I simply believe they are playing a more team oriented/hustle oriented game than the Wings are at the moment. Sue me. If the Sabres are able to maintain their level of play for the entire season, they will make the playoffs. If the Wings maintain... they won't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WpgMikos 17 Report post Posted October 21, 2009 (edited) This isn't based on the yahoo model but Avalanche fans are excited abput a recent TSN one; How would we here at Mile High Hockey react if a Tampa Bay Lightning blog started bad-mouthing the Avalanche organization and relentlessly criticizing Colorado players? We'd ignore them, because who cares? The last thing we'd do is waste our time arguing with the fans of a team we don't care about. There's no rivalry between the Lightning and the Avalanche, and you can't just make one up out of thin air. Just as you can't create rivalries out of nothing, you can't just decide that an old, bitter rivalry is dead. And you definitely can't claim that it's dead when you purposely act to keep that rivalry alive by going out of your way to engage the rival fans on their home territory. I bring this up again because the Avalanche play the Red Wings again on Saturday. And, I'd like to bring something else up, from TSN: This rivalry will never die, even if I have to give it daily mouth-to-mouth. Edited October 21, 2009 by WpgMikos Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Theophany 110 Report post Posted October 21, 2009 I never said they are playing "great" hockey. I simply believe they are playing a more team oriented/hustle oriented game than the Wings are at the moment. Sue me. If the Sabres are able to maintain their level of play for the entire season, they will make the playoffs. If the Wings maintain... they won't. The Wings have already started to play better hockey; or did you miss the last two games? It'll be more telling when the Wings go on a long road trip like these next two coming weeks. If they can go on the road, come together as a team, and actually get their game back on track, it's safe to lock up the playoffs. If the Wings maintain their current level of hockey (i.e. vs the Kings and Avs), they'll still make the playoffs, but it might be as the #8 seed instead of the top four. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Broken 16 381 Report post Posted October 21, 2009 This isn't based on the yahoo model but Avalanche fans are excited abput a recent TSN one; You have to appreciate his enthusiasm. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Broken 16 381 Report post Posted October 21, 2009 The Wings have already started to play better hockey; or did you miss the last two games? It'll be more telling when the Wings go on a long road trip like these next two coming weeks. If they can go on the road, come together as a team, and actually get their game back on track, it's safe to lock up the playoffs. If the Wings maintain their current level of hockey (i.e. vs the Kings and Avs), they'll still make the playoffs, but it might be as the #8 seed instead of the top four. Are we pretending that they didn't give up three goals in the third period and lose in the shootout to a very questionable Avalanche team? I'm sure you have an excuse for the loss, but it's still a loss that should have been a win. While I agree that the Wings seem to be coming around in certain areas, unlike you, I'm hesitant to label them as auto contenders based on the names on the roster alone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WpgMikos 17 Report post Posted October 21, 2009 You have to appreciate his enthusiasm. I totally do. His line "This rivalry will never die, even if I have to give it daily mouth-to-mouth." is awesome. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Theophany 110 Report post Posted October 21, 2009 Are we pretending that they didn't give up three goals in the third period and lose in the shootout to a very questionable Avalanche team? I'm sure you have an excuse for the loss, but it's still a loss that should have been a win. While I agree that the Wings seem to be coming around in certain areas, unlike you, I'm hesitant to label them as auto contenders based on the names on the roster alone. Pretty sure your "questionable Avalanche team" is 6-1-1 right now, bro. That's better than the Sabers who you're ready to give the Cup to right now. Hypocrisy is spelled B-r-o-k-e-n-1-6 now, apparently. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Broken 16 381 Report post Posted October 21, 2009 I totally do. His line "This rivalry will never die, even if I have to give it daily mouth-to-mouth." is awesome. Would have been awesome if the Wings and Avs could have found a way to make that rivalry last. That was some good s***. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Broken 16 381 Report post Posted October 21, 2009 (edited) Pretty sure your "questionable Avalanche team" is 6-1-1 right now, bro. That's better than the Sabers who you're ready to give the Cup to right now. Hypocrisy is spelled B-r-o-k-e-n-1-6 now, apparently. Wow... you have derailed over this. First off. I never once said that the Sabres are even Cup contenders. I said that if they can maintain their level of play, I believe they will make the playoffs. Pump the brakes a little. Second, the Avalanche are questionable. So are the Sabres. So are the Wings <gasp!> (oh my god... I said it) Does the fact that they are playing solid hockey somehow validate the Wings blowing a third period lead? A three goal lead, no less. I think all teams are questionable at the moment, and you think all teams are questionable besides the Wings... and somehow I'm the hypocrite. Hmmm... ok. By the way... as long as we are nitpicking, go ahead and scratch the Yotes off of your 'easy win' list for the Sabres. They are currently 5-2. Or are we going to nitpick their schedule and label them a s***ty team? Edited October 21, 2009 by Broken 16 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
