Ohlund HEAD SHOT on Kessel

[zettie85 106]

I post this purely for my own entertainment purposes. Ohlund leads with his forearms and catches Kessel in the head. SUSPENSION!!!!!! According to a lot of ppl on here there should have already been about 20 suspensions handed out for head hits. If you feel the same way I do this whole talk is getting ridiculous.

The reason this doesn't get brought up as dirty is because Kessel never got hurt! Everyone talks about double standards and yes I agree but it has nothing to do with who hit who. It has to do with did the hit result in injury. You can hit someone cleanly, hurt the guy and be vilified, yet if you hit someone from behind in the corner and the guy pops up right away, there's no harm done. A lot of the time with no penalty called period.

I don't blame the players. I blame the NHL and the officials. There is zero consistency in officiating games. For god sakes they added an extra ref for this reason!!! Officiating has been horrible post-lockout, but based purely on inconsistency. A touch on the glove gets you 2, but a crunch from behind(not causing injury) gets you a cheer from the home crowd or at worst boos rain down if you are the visiting team. 18 000 seem to able to make the call but the 2 idiots paid to do it don't even blink.

Edited November 4, 2009 by zettie85

[dat's sick 1,002]

Ohlund leads with his forearms and catches Kessel in the head.

[zettie85 106]

He caught him in the chin and that picture is definitely not proving a point. Kessel has a cut lip after the, he also wears a mouth guard. Not really a chance of biting his lower lip. He got hit in the face and not by Ohlund's sweater.

[russianswede919293 95]

He caught him in the chin and that picture is definitely not proving a point. Kessel has a cut lip after the, he also wears a mouth guard. Not really a chance of biting his lower lip. He got hit in the face and not by Ohlund's sweater.

Kessel's head was down and Ohlund was just aiming for a big hit, there was no intent to hit head, or intent to injure.

It was a clean hit.

[Guest Four]

As clean as Kronwall.

[zettie85 106]

Kessel's head was down and Ohlund was just aiming for a big hit, there was no intent to hit head, or intent to injure.

It was a clean hit.

You are helping me prove my point. I agree with you. There was no intent. There was slight contact with the head though. Which to me is fine. My point is there are so many threads. This a sarcastic thread up until the talk about the refs.

[dat's sick 1,002]

He caught him in the chin and that picture is definitely not proving a point. Kessel has a cut lip after the, he also wears a mouth guard. Not really a chance of biting his lower lip. He got hit in the face and not by Ohlund's sweater.

Look at the hit again if you don't believe that pic.. Ohlund's arms were down. If you want to prove YOUR point, this is not the hit to use as an example.

Kessel most likely busted his lip on Ohlund's shoulder, a result of Kessel having his head down and Ohlund being a much bigger guy than him.

[russianswede919293 95]

Look at the hit again if you don't believe that pic.. Ohlund's arms were down. If you want to prove YOUR point, this is not the hit to use as an example.

Kessel most likely busted his lip on Ohlund's shoulder, a result of Kessel having his head down and Ohlund being a much bigger guy than him.

that is an accurate analysis

[zettie85 106]

Look at the hit again if you don't believe that pic.. Ohlund's arms were down. If you want to prove YOUR point, this is not the hit to use as an example.

Kessel most likely busted his lip on Ohlund's shoulder, a result of Kessel having his head down and Ohlund being a much bigger guy than him.

Contact with the head is the only point I'm trying to make. It's a sarcastic thread of how stupid the argument actually.

[hak 21]

You are helping me prove my point. I agree with you. There was no intent. There was slight contact with the head though. Which to me is fine. My point is there are so many threads. This a sarcastic thread up until the talk about the refs.

I was a bit confused when I read the OP.. don't really like the whole sarcasm idea.

I don't think anyone is arguing if this hit is clean or not.. Not even leafs fans. It's as clean as it can be.

BTW, video of the hit:

Such a beautiful hit!

[Tr!PoD#19 524]

About as clean as it gets.

[stevkrause 1,247]

Contact with the head is the only point I'm trying to make. It's a sarcastic thread of how stupid the argument actually.

Not EVERY head contact hit should be suspended... but there are variations and the discipline committee needs to gain some consistency and punish accordingly and without bias - THAT'S where the problem comes in - Elbows, forearm shivers and leaving of the feet needs to be cracked down on and they also need to remove the terminator style football pads from the game and force soft cap pads, so when there IS a clean shoulder hit (like Ohlund's) that a guys head isn't taken off...

All of this is going to be subjective and until the league gets a legit board in there and not some Mickey Mouse organization, this debate is going to continue, more people are going to get hurt, suspensions that should be called will be missed and people will get suspended that have no right getting suspended...

the NHL needs new leadership across the board...

[stevkrause 1,247]

for the record - Wisniewski's hit deserved a suspension...

also, Mike Richards hit on Booth deserved a more serious suspension...

Ohlund's was clean.

[zettie85 106]

Not EVERY head contact hit should be suspended... but there are variations and the discipline committee needs to gain some consistency and punish accordingly and without bias - THAT'S where the problem comes in - Elbows, forearm shivers and leaving of the feet needs to be cracked down on and they also need to remove the terminator style football pads from the game and force soft cap pads, so when there IS a clean shoulder hit (like Ohlund's) that a guys head isn't taken off...

All of this is going to be subjective and until the league gets a legit board in there and not some Mickey Mouse organization, this debate is going to continue, more people are going to get hurt, suspensions that should be called will be missed and people will get suspended that have no right getting suspended...

the NHL needs new leadership across the board...

Ya. The shoulder pads and elbow pads are ridiculous. All they help protect is from the puck.

They are a dumb idea.

[toby91_ca 620]

It wasn't even a shoulder to head, if anything, Kessel's face catches Ohlund's chest, the hit can't even be argued as being dirty or penalty worthy and should in no way be compared at all to any of the recent head shots that we've seen.

[stevkrause 1,247]

Ya. The shoulder pads and elbow pads are ridiculous. All they help protect is from the puck.

They are a dumb idea.

good job reading my post... ignorance breeds stupidity.

they also need to remove the terminator style football pads from the game and force soft cap pads

those still protect just as well and can have stronger plastic armor underneath well still being padded on top - the actually absorb the impact more...

hard plastic - hard impact:

soft cap - absorb impact (and protect better from pucks):

[toby91_ca 620]

Ya. The shoulder pads and elbow pads are ridiculous. All they help protect is from the puck.

They are a dumb idea.

The pads don't have to be made from the materials they are made from to be protective. I've been playing hockey for over 25 years and using fairly soft type material padding for elbow pads and shoulder pads and I have never hurt or come close to hurting my elbows or shoulders.

[stevkrause 1,247]

The pads don't have to be made from the materials they are made from to be protective. I've been playing hockey for over 25 years and using fairly soft type material padding for elbow pads and shoulder pads and I have never hurt or come close to hurting my elbows or shoulders.

exactly.

[Rivalred 630]

Yeah, this definitely comes to mind:

Really no reason for such a hit, especially so early in the season.

[zettie85 106]

for the record - Wisniewski's hit deserved a suspension...

also, Mike Richards hit on Booth deserved a more serious suspension...

Ohlund's was clean.

Wisniewski's, sure. Ohlund, of course not. Richard's I will defend forever that there was no intent, no elbows, stayed on his feet, thus no suspension and not even a penalty. It's the same with the kid from Kitchener. Don't put yourself in a vulnerable position because you will get hit. That's the game. It's there own fault.

Ohlund had contact will Kessels head, very little but still some. Maybe it was safer for him to come in with his forearms. Ohlund is taller. What happens if he leads with his shoulder. Shoulder to head contact for sure and probably a concussed Kessel. The way people have been taught to hit all there lives is now grounds for suspension?

Taking out the clutching and grabbing has made the game faster but also has made it more dangerous. With the size of the players, the size of the pads the speed that they are traveling at is just a recipe for disaster. If everything is going to turn into a head hit penalty take hitting out of the game and just allow people to rub guys out on the boards. I for one never want to see it taken out. There have always been head shots. Majority of hits have some slight contact with head. They have made the game more dangerous the fans and the players just have to deal with it.

Edited November 4, 2009 by zettie85

[jollymania 162]

Kessel had every right to be hit hard there, why was his head down?

[stevkrause 1,247]

Wisniewski's, sure. Ohlund, of course not. Richard's I will defend forever that there was no intent, no elbows, stayed on his feet, thus no suspension and not even a penalty. It's the same with the kid from Kitchener. Don't put yourself in a vulnerable position because you will get hit. That's the game. It's there own fault.

Ohlund had contact will Kessels head, very little but still some. Maybe it was safer for him to come in with his forearms. Ohlund is taller. What happens if he leads with his shoulder. Shoulder to head contact for sure and probably a concussed Kessel. The way people have been taught to hit all there lives is now grounds for suspension?

Taking out the clutching and grabbing has made the game faster but also has made it more dangerous. With the size of the players, the size of the pads the speed that they are traveling at is just a recipe for disaster. If everything is going to turn into a head hit penalty take hitting out of the game and just allow people to rub guys out on the boards. I for one never want to see it taken out. There have always been head shots. Majority of hits have some slight contact with head. They have made the game more dangerous the fans and the players just have to deal with it.

I disagree with the intent on Richards hit... there's no reason to blind side a guy like that - it's different if he has his head down and you come in from the front - Richards was behind/on the side of him and CLEARLY head hunting... the incident with the kid from Kitchner was definitely cheap and his elbows DEFINITELY came up, but at the same token, the kid saw him coming, had plenty of time to avoid the hit AND turned his back to the hit - BIG no-no... so I see this one as 50/50.

once again............

Not EVERY head contact hit should be suspended... but there are variations and the discipline committee needs to gain some consistency and punish accordingly and without bias - THAT'S where the problem comes in - Elbows, forearm shivers and leaving of the feet needs to be cracked down on and they also need to remove the terminator style football pads from the game and force soft cap pads, so when there IS a clean shoulder hit (like Ohlund's) that a guys head isn't taken off...

All of this is going to be subjective and until the league gets a legit board in there and not some Mickey Mouse organization, this debate is going to continue, more people are going to get hurt, suspensions that should be called will be missed and people will get suspended that have no right getting suspended...

the NHL needs new leadership across the board...

[A.T.Hun 0]

Kessel had every right to be hit hard there, why was his head down?

That's exactly what I thought when I saw the hit on Versus last night. First thing I did is go "Whoa!" followed by cackling with delight. Then I said, "Keep your head up, kids!"

[Dano33 41]

It pissed me off that every time there is a big hit someone tries to protect their teammate and has to jump the guy instantly. Kessel was shaken up, got up and was fine. It's hockey, hits are part of the game.

Edited November 4, 2009 by Dano33

[zettie85 106]

I disagree with the intent on Richards hit... there's no reason to blind side a guy like that - it's different if he has his head down and you come in from the front - Richards was behind/on the side of him and CLEARLY head hunting... the incident with the kid from Kitchner was definitely cheap and his elbows DEFINITELY came up, but at the same token, the kid saw him coming, had plenty of time to avoid the hit AND turned his back to the hit - BIG no-no... so I see this one as 50/50.

once again............

Not EVERY head contact hit should be suspended... but there are variations and the discipline committee needs to gain some consistency and punish accordingly and without bias - THAT'S where the problem comes in - Elbows, forearm shivers and leaving of the feet needs to be cracked down on and they also need to remove the terminator style football pads from the game and force soft cap pads, so when there IS a clean shoulder hit (like Ohlund's) that a guys head isn't taken off...

All of this is going to be subjective and until the league gets a legit board in there and not some Mickey Mouse organization, this debate is going to continue, more people are going to get hurt, suspensions that should be called will be missed and people will get suspended that have no right getting suspended...

the NHL needs new leadership across the board...

If Booth was looking where he was going he would have seen Richards. In my books that's the same as having your head down. Cutting across centre ice not paying attention is astupid move by Booth. Yes they need new leadership but whoever they bring in will not fix the problem so there is no point. The NHL and some of the players ruined this game during the lockout with the rule changes and trying to make it more entertaining to southerners. I'll never stop watching it but I will never feel that the new NHL is an improvement.