11/21 GDT: Red Wings 3 at Canadiens 2 (SO)

[commadore183 103]

Central Division standings after tonight's game:

1) Blackhawks: 28

2) Blue Jackets: 26 (-2)

3) Red Wings: 26 (-2)

4) Predators: 23 (-5)

5) Blues: 18 (-10)

Western Conference Standings

1) Sharks: 34

2) Avalanche: 29 (-5)

3) Blackhawks: 28 (-6)

4) Flames: 28 (-6)

5) Kings: 28 (-6)

6) Blue Jackets: 26 (-8)

7) Red Wings: 26 (-8)

8) Coyotes: 24 (-10)

9) Stars: 24 (-10)

10) Canucks: 24 (-10)

11) Predators: 23 (-11)

12) Oilers: 21 (-13)

13) Blues: 18 (-16)

14) Wild: 18 (-16)

15) Ducks: 17 (-17)

Some game stats:

Shots on goal

Red Wings: 34

Canadiens: 18

Goal Scorers

Red Wings

1) Stuart (@ 12:41, 1st Period), PPG, assists from Lebda and Cleary

2) Datsyuk (@ 14:42, 1st Period), PPG, assists from Raffalski and Lidstrom

3) Datsyuk (Shootout)

Canadiens

1) Cammalleri (@ 00:09, 3rd Period), Even Strength, assist from Kostityn and Spacek

2) Cammalleri (@ 08:45, 3rd Period), Even Strength, assists from Kostityn and Plekanec

Penalty minutes

Red Wings (2 minutes total)

1) Abdelkater (@ 18:51, 1st Period), holding the stick, 2 minutes

Canadiens (14 minutes total)

1) Laruque (@ 08:52, 1st Period), high stick, 4 minute double minor

2) Laruque (@ 08:52, 1st Period), tripping, 2 minutes

3) Mara (@ 13:07, 1st Period), Cross-checking, 2 minutes

4) Moen (@ 15:10, 1st Period), Roughing, 2 minutes

5) O'Byrne (@ 15:44, 1st Period), Slashing, 2 minutes

6) Lapirrer (@ 10:56, 3rd Period), Delay of game-puck over the glass, 2 minutes

Power Play

Red Wings: 1-5 (5v4), 1-2 (5v3), 2-7 total, 10:24 total power play time

Canadiens: 0-1 (5v4), 0-1 total, 2:00 total power play time

EDIT: Forgot that the Blackhawks are playing tonight. Someone else can post their updated points standings, but I'll be in bed by the time the game is done. Either way, the math's not that hard to figure out

Night all.

Edited November 22, 2009 by commadore183

[useyourillusion 0]

i think a 3-2 win though. only because i'll never predict a loss.

hahah did i call that or what? good game tonight.. too close

[skyphoenix 153]

I don't see how our defense is going to look anything but disastrous now. Kronwall was probably our second best defenseman right behind Lidstrom. Stuart is good, but now that the defense is going to have to be shaken up, I wonder if Lebda/Meech will happen. I hope with all that is holy in the world, this is not the case.

[Guest zackmorris]

f*** Laraque

I'd rather lose and have Kronner healthy than win and have him hurt. Not that there's a direct relation there, but you know.

I don't care if he's got no history of being dirty, that's a dirty play and f*** you. I hope someone chops his f***in kneecap out next game.

What is it about Montreal that makes good players turn into dirty, disgusting, classless buffoons? Maybe the collective provincial attitude rubs off on them.

Edited November 22, 2009 by zackmorris

[Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204]

I don't see how our defense is going to look anything but disastrous now. Kronwall was probably our second best defenseman right behind Lidstrom. Stuart is good, but now that the defense is going to have to be shaken up, I wonder if Lebda/Meech will happen. I hope with all that is holy in the world, this is not the case.

It's gonna be ugly. Lidstrom and Stewie are fine, but having elevated minutes for Ericsson, Lebda and Meech scares the hell out of me.

[T-Ruff 47]

Gotta love Dats and Z ... Leaders on the team with the extra points in their hands... They step up and make no mistake! :goal:

Not to mention their play during the game, it really seemed like they were trying to rally the team around them when after the game got tied.

[CanadaBoy 151]

What would the D lines look like with Kronwall out?

*Knock on wood*

Lidstrom- Stuart

Rafalski - Ericsson

Meech - Lebda

[skyphoenix 153]

It's gonna be ugly. Lidstrom and Stewie are fine, but having elevated minutes for Ericsson, Lebda and Meech scares the hell out of me.

I don't mind Ericsson getting more minutes on the top 2 defensive lines because he has proven in the playoffs last year that he can be an excellent defenseman and worked quite well with Lidstrom but Meech and Lebda have no upside as far as I'm concerned and having them together would be a huge liability.

I do personally feel that Babcock would give the line promotion to Ericsson before either Meech or Lebda.

Edited November 22, 2009 by skyphoenix

[Rivalred 630]

Blocked shots are killing the team... They fix this, they would be winning almost every night.

[Guest micah]

Kronwall has crossed the line from clean to dirty on occasion and seldom gets cheaped in return. Tonight he did. That's part of his game, no biggie. Had it been Z or D, I'd be furious. Kronwall? Eh, there's a price to play for playing the game you do, fella. If you're goping to be reckless and refuse to back it up, expect people to make you pay.

That said, Laraque, that was stupid and dangerous.

Sweet sweaters on the Canadiens tonight!

Edited November 22, 2009 by micah

[Guest zackmorris]

Kronwall has crossed the line from clean to dirty on occasion and seldom gets cheaped in return. Tonight he did. That's part of his game, no biggie. Had it been or D, I'd be furious. Kronwall? Eh, there's a price to play for playing the game you do, fella. If you're goping to be reckless and refuse to back it up, expect people to make you pay.

Close your window, lest you throw more than just logic out of it.

[CupChamps979802 35]

Just said on HNIC "Red Wings fear Kronwall suffered MCL damage in left knee, won't know the extent until Monday"

[Rivalred 630]

I say bring Janik in....

[titanium2 867]

Just said on HNIC "Red Wings fear Kronwall suffered MCL damage in left knee, won't know the extent until Monday"

MCL

Is that better or worser or...?

[jollymania 162]

MCL tear means max 4 months?

[jollymania 162]

MCL

Is that better or worser or...?

its not as bad as acl i think

[Rivalred 630]

MCL

Is that better or worser or...?

http://orthopedics.about.com/cs/kneeinjuries/a/mclinjury.htm

More you know the further you go!

[VM1138 1,921]

I'm not sure beating a s***ty team in a shootout is something to be rpoud of. I missed the game due to work, but it sounds like they're still not escaping that funk.

And now with Kronwall out? Will this team even be able to field a full roster come playoffs (if we make it?)

[Jim Morrison 0]

MCL tear: maximum is 6 weeks out and minimum is 1-2 weeks I think. So not as serious as an ACL tear

[skyphoenix 153]

So more than likely he will be out for 3-4 weeks, possibly 4-6 weeks (or longer).

[titanium2 867]

its not as bad as acl i think

So anyone know what "grade" Kronwall's tear is?

[CupChamps979802 35]

http://orthopedics.about.com/cs/kneeinjuries/a/mclinjury.htm

More you know the further you go!

How funny, I was just reading that and was about to post it haha

[jollymania 162]

So anyone know what "grade" Kronwall's tear is?

probably the highest one if they are saying it is so bad

[Miss Wing Queen 154]

Just found an update (sort of) on Kronwall . . .

http://www.freep.com/article/20091121/SPOR...least-two-weeks

Hopefully it's just a sprain and not a tear. Get well soon, Kronner.

P.S. Hockey Gods, all I want for Christmas is a healthy Red Wings team!

[titanium2 867]

So Meech will come in. What's the best possible back end lineup?