Hossa's Back

[Booster313 138]

I didn't know Jesus played hockey.

Oh yeah! He's great!!! He has six Norris trophies and is captain of the Red Wings.

[Doggy 130]

I didn't know Jesus played hockey.

Yeah, apparently he goes by the earthly name of "Carey Price".

[Carman 387]

He is a career 112 and that's with playing on some pretty bad teams. He also plays on the PK on almost every team he played for, and is a main stay on the top powerplay unit. He is about as all-around of a winger as you can find.

[Guest CaliWingsNut]

I know lines need changing...when it's warranted, though. Right now Chicago is tearing it up. 7 in a row? They are clickin' atm. Adding a superstar player (and until I see it, is a puck hog who thinks to shoot only, not pass) who plays a selfish game if you ask me (a 2 way game? he was horrible defensivley here in Det, and his previous teams as well) will disturb that.

And as far as the injury statement, I held no ill will towards him for his playoff performance after I found out he was injured. But I'm not basing my opinion off of just 1 play off performance. I'm talking years of watch hockey, and I've seen Hossa play many a times through out his career. He's a shoot first regardless of whos wide open type player, and the way the Hawks are playing I think adding that tye of player will disturb the chemistry they have now.

As far as Bowman goes, he never touched a line until it wasn't performing. All lines are clicking with the hawks...that's all I'm saying. And like I said in my last post...we'll see.

He was one of Detroit's best wingers at defense last season & post-season. Maybe not better than Z or Dats, but they've been asked to do it for a few more years (aka. I doubt Atlanta/Pittsburgh was worried about his defensive production).

[Z and D for the C 712]

He is a career 112 and that's with playing on some pretty bad teams. He also plays on the PK on almost every team he played for, and is a main stay on the top powerplay unit. He is about as all-around of a winger as you can find.

But he lost us the cup?!?

And I'd also like to add to my previous post that IMO Hossa was made for the Wings, it's a shame it didn't work out.

Edited November 25, 2009 by Z and D for the C

[datsyukismyfriend 4]

liked hossa a ton while he was here. i wish him the best in chicago. they're going to be an exciting team, especially if hossa finds his niche there.

[Doggy 130]

(a 2 way game? he was horrible defensivley here in Det, and his previous teams as well)

I'm at a loss for words. I think you deserve everything you're gonna get for this. I don't believe you've watched him much at all after this comment. That, or you have an irrational hate for Hossa.

[Z and D for the C 712]

Last year Hossa was the BEST back checker on the team.

[thedisappearer 291]

The dude is a friggin' puck hog, thinks he can shot and score, with his eyes shut mind you, better than jesus himself.

I've read the Bible. Hossa can shoot and score better than Jesus. Jesus was more a set-up man with defensive responsibility.

Seriously, who cares? He was here a year. Get over it.

[Dynheart 42]

I'm at a loss for words. I think you deserve everything you're gonna get for this. I don't believe you've watched him much at all after this comment. That, or you have an irrational hate for Hossa.

No, just spoiled, and I admitted it in a pervious post. Watched the Red Wings for 25 years and for a good 15 years of those 25 I was used to seeing the best 2 way players to touch the ice. Maybe it was Bowman, maybe it wasn't. I was comparing him unfairly to some of the best 2 way players in the game the last 15 years (who happened to play for Detriot). Wrong of me? Without a doubt, but it's no better or less than what this fan base expects. Perfection.

And for the record I went and youtubed some vids of Hossa, not comparing him to Yzerman, Zets, Dats to name a few, and yes he was a responsible 2 way player (look I admited I was wrong...something that 99% of the people here never do). I still think he shoots way to much and doesn't pass enough (saw that in the videos). I like Hossa, you guys act like I hate him. I don't. I don't blame him for the cup loss (that was a team effort/injuries). I think he'll have a great career over in Chicago. I was just stating that with Chicago clickin' so well atm, adding Hossa to the lines might disburb that clickin', ya know?

EDIT: And to the poster above me, it's not about him leaving lol. I have said this in about 3 of the post now in this thread.

Edited November 25, 2009 by Dynheart

[Theophany 110]

No, just spoiled, and I admitted it in a pervious post. Watched the Red Wings for 25 years and for a good 15 years of those 25 I was used to seeing the best 2 way players to touch the ice. Maybe it was Bowman, maybe it wasn't. I was comparing him unfairly to some of the best 2 way players in the game the last 15 years (who happened to play for Detriot). Wrong of me? Without a doubt, but it's no better or less than what this fan base expects. Perfection.

Hossa was pretty much the 4th best defensive forward on the team after Zetterberg, Datsyuk, and Draper. How on earth you can say he's even mildly bad when he held that status on a team that was stacked with defensive forwards, I don't know.

Here's a tip for you: stop trying to backtrack and recover whatever modicum of respect people had for your opinion. You're just digging yourself into a deeper hole trying to justify why you said Hossa was bad.

He's not. He's a great player, he just had a bad post season. Datsyuk had one too, and we're not roasting him on a spit.

[Dynheart 42]

Hossa was pretty much the 4th best defensive forward on the team after Zetterberg, Datsyuk, and Draper. How on earth you can say he's even mildly bad when he held that status on a team that was stacked with defensive forwards, I don't know.

Here's a tip for you: stop trying to backtrack and recover whatever modicum of respect people had for your opinion. You're just digging yourself into a deeper hole trying to justify why you said Hossa was bad.

He's not. He's a great player, he just had a bad post season. Datsyuk had one too, and we're not roasting him on a spit.

Not justifying anything. I said I went back and watched some videos throuch unbiased eyes and said I was wrong...I'm not aloud to do that on the internet? Hell, I'm aloud to do so when I fook up out side of the forums and people forgive you, but not here? So I'm just digging myself in a deeper hole when I said I was wrong. Not only does this fan base expect perfection from the team (mostly we are all spoiled), but the fan base must be too it seems.

[Carman 387]

[Guest zackmorris]

WEll maybe you have watched hockey, but obviously not enough. That's the dumbest thing I've ever read...and now everyone else here is also dumber for reading that. The scary thing is Hossa could probably score with his eyes closed like you say. He scored 40 goals for DET with a bad shoulder...scary If you think 1 player coming back is going to screw everything up you got problems. Toews came back and nothing got screwed up....players come back to other teams all the time and they don't get messed up..lol. So if the hawks lose with Hossa people will jump and say OH CHEMISTRY!!!!! No its simple laws of averages...The hawks cant win everygame.

You insult him and then tell him this? There's a good chance the guy makes a point. Chemistry is everything and there's a decent chance it goes all wonked when they try line flipping. Hossa, in critical moments, doesn't play a team game. That's what I think confuses people who seem to be either black or white on it, no shade of grey. Hossa, like many players who are stars on horrible teams, develop a sort of mindset that forces them in clutch moments to try and do everything themselves. They developed their NHL game doing just that and had to carry a team themselves, so no matter where they go, almost subconsciously, the player will revert back to that mental mode when the going gets tough. Some can shed it, some can't.

Hossa, during the relaxed play of the regular season (esp on this team) scored 40 goals when he wasn't feeling as if he had to carry us. When he started thinking too much, and felt a ton of pressure, he went back into "crappy ottawa/atlanta" Hossa mode and tried to do it all himself when the play clearly called for passes and positioning and cycling and setting up. He'd try to enter the zone himself, deke around two guys himself, carry it all the way around the net and take a desperation shot from a mediocre angle himself. He looked like a man trying to do too much when if he could've just relaxed and been more calm and stopped thinking, he would've made the proper play.

Hossa in Chicago may never have to worry about that, because unless they make the finals pretty quickly, I don't see them heading back. Alot can change in a few years, but they seem committed to resigning their forwards. Their D by the looks of it right now is going to plummet when some of their players head for more money elsewhere.

Edited November 25, 2009 by zackmorris

[skyphoenix 153]

I already miss Hossa and he hasn't played a game yet

He was such a great addition to our team and it's sad that nothing could have worked out here.

[Mikeal 60]

Hossa was a great guy, and a great player in Detroit.

Get off the BS and move on.

[Guest lnvincible]

Its gonna hurt seeing him play another team

Althought hawks have been a team ive been rooting for for awhile now .

BUT.. WINGS NEED TO ******* WAKE UP

[thedisappearer 291]

Althought hawks have been a team ive been rooting for for awhile now .

Wait, what?

[VM1138 1,921]

Hossa very well could put them over the top. I wasn't on the Hawk bandwagon earlier on, but with the way the Wings are playing and the addition of Hossa now to the Hawks, I don't see the Hawks going on a massive losing streak and the Wings going on a massive winning streak. The Hawks just might take the Central this year after all.

EDIT: What I want to know is why a player would sign such a big, long term contract with a team he's never played with before. Seems like a serious career risk. If Chicago doesn't work out, he's stuck there it would seem.

Edited November 25, 2009 by VM1138

[skyphoenix 153]

Hossa very well could put them over the top. I wasn't on the Hawk bandwagon earlier on, but with the way the Wings are playing and the addition of Hossa now to the Hawks, I don't see the Hawks going on a massive losing streak and the Wings going on a massive winning streak. The Hawks just might take the Central this year after all.

EDIT: What I want to know is why a player would sign such a big, long term contract with a team he's never played with before. Seems like a serious career risk. If Chicago doesn't work out, he's stuck there it would seem.

I think he just wanted some security after being bounced around the league, but I'm sure there isn't a NTC on his contract so if he wanted to be traded or Chicago wanted to trade him, it could happen.

[Tommy_Like_Wingy 25]

Hossa helped carry our team last year and I thought he fit in perfectly. What is this talk about being selfish with the puck? The guy had over 30 assists last year. And I can't blame him for shooting because he has a ridiculous shot and great offensive awareness. I'll miss the guy, and I can't imagine how well he'll do if they stick him on a line with Kane who, I admit, is probably one of the best playmakers in the league.

I just noticed they play San Jose tomorrow. Should be an interesting game with Marleau-Thornton-Heatley vs. Kane-Toews-Hossa. I kind of feel bad for Nabakov and Huet.

[Theophany 110]

I think he just wanted some security after being bounced around the league, but I'm sure there isn't a NTC on his contract so if he wanted to be traded or Chicago wanted to trade him, it could happen.

Even if there is a NTC in his contract, players can waive it 99% of the time (due to the language in the contract).

A NTC is to make sure that the player has a choice in whether he stays in his current city.

[Wings_Dynasty 267]

Hossa's back??? Good guess, I would say his groin is the next thing to go, not his back.

[OsGOD 3]

operation 2009: the Trojan Hossa is back in action!

who cares what he does in the regular season... its is post season flops that make the most waves! hopefully Chi-town can hold onto playoffs hopes so I can watch him suck air in the playoffs again

[redwingmachine 189]

operation 2009: the Trojan Hossa is back in action!

LMAO - That is a great way to describe him, Trojan Hossa! I live in Chicago, so I get to hear it all the time how a Toews, Kane, Hossa line is going to dominate. I think Hossa is a great player and I’m a little bitter about his playoff performance, not that he didn’t try. I just expected a little more production from a 7 MIL guy.

I agree with ZACKMORRIS on the psychology of Hossa’s play. He is used to being a “1-man-band†and the Wings had no use for that type of player during crunch time. It is what I have always loved about the Wings – they don’t build a team around 1 or 2 stars (like the Pens), they build a team and use that against other star built teams.