Filppula

[themule93 1]

k so after all the filppula trade talk, i was thinkin.... this is rare so pay attention

so in filppula's 34 games he has 22 points, if he played an entire season that would pace him for about 54 points and this is without having the time to build much chemistry due to his injury. i dont get how people can suggest trading him... imagine he played this whole season, he would gain chemistry and put up at least 60-65 points. If you ask me, thats pretty damn good for a THIRD line centre who plays come of the best defense in the league.

Thoughts ?

[Winged_Wheeler 3]

Fil's a keeper. Just remember, Datsyuk and Zetterberg passed before shooting, just like Filppula....

Edited February 18, 2010 by Winged_Wheeler

[McAwesome 754]

I am definitely not among those who advocate trading Filppula, but I think that with very few exceptions the argument for trading him is twofold:

1) he is one of the few players who is not in the last year of his contract and does not have a NTC, and 2) he has the best trade value among those who can be moved, meaning he would yield the best return.

If it could help the team, then trading Filppula is a viable option, though I personally would be disappointed because he is my favorite current Red Wing, and I agree with those that have said that moving him could end up being a move that would come back to haunt us.

Edited February 18, 2010 by McAwesome

[Finnish Wing 110]

Oh please NOOOO!!!!

Don't start a thread about this. It isn't like we haven't gone through that argument already. I personally don't consider Filppula overpaid, but there are guys who do. The counter-argument according to them is that Filppula has never played that kinda season and projections are bulls***. I don't actually think so, but NVM.

I hope this thread gets merged or deleted, as we already have two recent threads about Filppula filled with text.

[themule93 1]

I am definitely not among those who advocate trading Filppula, but I think that with very few exceptions the argument for trading him is twofold:

1) he is one of the few players who is not in the last year of his contract and does not have a NTC, and 2) he has the best trade value among those who can be moved, meaning he would yield the best return.

If it could help the team, then trading Filppula is a viable option, though I personally would be disappointed because he is my favorite current Red Wing, and I agree with those that have said that moving him could end up being a move that would come back to haunt us.

how we have ONE that it can all go in

[Guest zackmorris]

It's not just about points when you talk about the Wings.

Part of that 3 mil salary for Fil is based on his outstanding defensive play. That's also partially responsible for his low point totals. Just look at his shot count. He barely ever cracks 100. It's obvious why if you really zero in on him while he's out there. He's not skating figure eights in the neutral zone while we're defending-he's getting in there and taking a man and disrupting the opponents offensive flow. This makes it incredibly difficult to get up ice on odd man rushes.

Offensively he's not a guy that just hawks around the net waiting. If the opponent gets the puck, he's on his horse headed back into his own zone to stop the opponent from setting up. He's playing defensively almost all of the time. This is going to take a toll on your point total, clearly. Datsyuk and Zetterberg are 120 point talents, who hover around 80-90 because they're outstanding defensive forwards. I think purely from judging his skill set on the ice, Fil looks like an 80 point guy who will score 50 because of his TOI and defensive responsibility.

All this talk about stone hands and lack of finish is just a crock of s***. The guy can handle the puck and has to me, always looked like a miniature Datsyuk. And as for finish, I dunno where the hell anyone ever got that from. His shooting percentage isn't bad and I haven't seen him miss a ton of shots. He just doesn't take many.

And for anyone blaming Fil for this role, I'd guess he's doing exactly what he's been told to do.

Edited February 18, 2010 by zackmorris

[Guest Lidstromboli]

k so after all the filppula trade talk

we talk about filppula

and then people start arguing about whether or not he's overpaid

and then back to talking about trade possibilities

etc

Edited February 18, 2010 by Lidstromboli

[Finnish Wing 110]

There are already three recent threads discussing this same thing:

http://www.letsgowings.com/forums/index.ph...t=0&start=0

http://www.letsgowings.com/forums/index.ph...amp;hl=filppula

http://www.letsgowings.com/forums/index.ph...t=0&start=0

[Guest Howard He Do It?!]

There are already three recent threads discussing this same thing:

http://www.letsgowings.com/forums/index.ph...t=0&start=0

http://www.letsgowings.com/forums/index.ph...amp;hl=filppula

http://www.letsgowings.com/forums/index.ph...t=0&start=0

Only 3? We can always use more!

[RedWingAbner 13]

Who is the Filppula guy? According to Babcock, there is a player named Filla-poola....is that who you are referring to?

[Nev 1,085]

no, no, the UK studio analyst insists it filler-piller

[mmamolo 287]

Personally, I am totally against moving Filppula for the following reasons:

1. His contract was structured in such a way that yes he was slightly overpaid in years 1 and 2 but in the years 3-5 we receive a player worth more than his salary

2. He is one of the most versatile centres in the league. He is able to fill in as an offensive talent on the second line or as a shut down centre on the third.

3. When he came into the league he hadnt physically matured and was pushed around. He entered the league at a similar stature to Datsyuk. He has since began to physically mature and can no longer be pushed around. He will continue to strengthen and that will only improve his overall game.

4. At his age there are very few players in this league who were big parts to Stanley Cup winning teams as he was. He still has room to continue to grow and he will be a big part of the core of this team for years to come.

[Buppy 1,720]

Big Flip fan, so despite myself I can't resist replying...

We definitely shouldn't trade him this season. We aren't going to get a difference-maker in return, so there's no point.

However, as much as I like him, in my opinion if Babcock plans on keeping him on the third line (and all signs suggest that's the current plan) then we would be better off trying to move him this summer. With the cap space we should gain for next year, moving Flip could possibly make room for a big ticket sniper, which would help this team more than Flip does.

Our bottom 6 is fine, assuming we hang on to Helm, Abs, Eaves, and Miller. We don't Flip or a $3 mil cap hit being wasted there.

Of course, if we could somehow manage to snag a 30+ goal guy without giving up Flip, then that would be my preference. Not sure how realistic that is though.