Guest ToMaToToWnWinGsFaN_24 Report post Posted April 11, 2010 how is it official if the pens win tommo and devils loose they both have 101 and the same amount of wins. then what determins it season series my friend....devils were a perfect 6-0 against the pens Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crotty99 302 Report post Posted April 11, 2010 how is it official if the pens win tommo and devils loose they both have 101 and the same amount of wins. then what determins it Also I think goal difference comes into play doesn't it? Devils is +30 Pens is +19 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drake_Marcus 890 Report post Posted April 11, 2010 The Sens are screwed. They shouldn't even bother showing up. Then again... remember the Rangers vs. Capitals series last year? If not for Fedorov's goal the Rags would've likely knocked out the mighty Caps. Fleury is a joke so there's no guarantee the Sens can't blow the Pens out a few times. I still wouldn't put a penny on the Sens. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kylee 727 Report post Posted April 11, 2010 sadly, penguins in 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crotty99 302 Report post Posted April 11, 2010 Fleury is a joke Harsh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drake_Marcus 890 Report post Posted April 11, 2010 If Cooke even plays. Kane might have concussed him pretty good tonight. Watching his skull get beat I'm pretty sure you could actually see Cooke forget how to do math. 1 2guns reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titanium2 867 Report post Posted April 11, 2010 Watching his skull get beat I'm pretty sure you could actually see Cooke forget how to do math. You're assuming he knew how to do math in the first place. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drake_Marcus 890 Report post Posted April 11, 2010 Harsh. GAA: 24th in the league Sv%: 35th in the league Ray Emery has better stats than Fleury. Seriously. You're assuming he knew how to do math in the first place. I just thought it was a funny mental image. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crotty99 302 Report post Posted April 11, 2010 GAA: 24th in the league Sv%: 35th in the league Ray Emery has better stats than Fleury. Seriously. Whilst those are some pretty bad numbers, i still think he can turn it on when he needs to. ie. playoffs. Chris Osgood last year had terrible numbers yet was one of the best goalies come playoff time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carman 387 Report post Posted April 11, 2010 (edited) The Sens are screwed. They shouldn't even bother showing up. Then again... remember the Rangers vs. Capitals series last year? If not for Fedorov's goal the Rags would've likely knocked out the mighty Caps. Fleury is a joke so there's no guarantee the Sens can't blow the Pens out a few times. I still wouldn't put a penny on the Sens. Mighty caps? They are and always have been a joke. And if Fleury is such a joke the Wings wouldn't have lost the SCF last year. Never compare the Capitals to the defending Stanley Cup champions. Edited April 11, 2010 by Carman Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crotty99 302 Report post Posted April 11, 2010 They are and always have been a joke. Untill the Caps prove otherwise (and they may) I agree. Also I cant stand boudreau, he whines and complains to a ridiculous extent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carman 387 Report post Posted April 11, 2010 (edited) Untill the Caps prove otherwise (and they may) I agree. Also I cant stand boudreau, he whines and complains to a ridiculous extent. I just don't see them as a legitimate playoff threat. Boudreau is the main reason, they have an enormous amount of talent but unless they change their gameplan in the playoffs it's going to be a tough road for them. Edited April 11, 2010 by Carman Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drake_Marcus 890 Report post Posted April 11, 2010 Mighty caps? They are and always have been a joke. And if Fleury is such a joke the Wings wouldn't have lost the SCF last year. Never compare the Capitals to the defending Stanley Cup champions. GAA: 24th in the league Sv%: 35th in the league That Fleury didn't beat the Wings. Why do you think Howard is starting next week? If past play made you a fearsome goalie Ozzy would be starting. Fleury is as far removed from his Finals play as Ozzy is. Except Fleury has never been an elite goaltender at the NHL level aside from a 35 game span in 07-08. The only time he's posted impressive post season numbers was that same year-- 07-08. Osgood's got a history of ratcheting his play up in the postseason. Regardless, no one is afraid of Ozzy right now and no one should be afraid of Fleury's pathetic numbers. And you're right-- I can't compare the Caps to the Pens. The Caps have 120pts and the Pens have 99pts. The Caps Past Cups mean nothing now. Wait, maybe they do for you. In that case the Canadians will win the Cup this year since they have 24 championships. The Ducks are only 3 years removed from their Cup run, maybe they're a threat this year. Let me check the standings. 1 titanium2 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carman 387 Report post Posted April 11, 2010 Yes because the Canadiens are the defending champions... Fleury is a big game goalie, his stats aren't good but he gets the job done. I'm not saying the Penguin's are going to repeat and sweep, but I really think you are underestimating them. If Malkin actually decides to not take penalties and actually play they will be very strong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drake_Marcus 890 Report post Posted April 11, 2010 Yes because the Canadiens are the defending champions... Fleury is a big game goalie, his stats aren't good but he gets the job done. I'm not saying the Penguin's are going to repeat and sweep, but I really think you are underestimating them. If Malkin actually decides to not take penalties and actually play they will be very strong. Malkin is the key. If he plays like he can the Pens are really fearsome. If he disappears they're screwed. Where's Mike Richards when you need him? (likely golfing) And the Wings are the defending Western Conference champs... not many people have us as favourites to come out of the West. Although if you base it only on post olympics play the Wings should be scaring the crap out of people. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crotty99 302 Report post Posted April 11, 2010 (edited) Past Cups mean nothing now. Wait, maybe they do for you. In that case the Canadians will win the Cup this year since they have 24 championships. The Ducks are only 3 years removed from their Cup run, maybe they're a threat this year. Let me check the standings. Of course the past has no direct impact on the present but its certainly a good guide for whats to come. Fluery has proven to be a playoff performer his last two years so theres no reason he can't turn it on again. Like i said Ozzie had similar if not worse numbers last year but managed to take us to the final once again. And you're right-- I can't compare the Caps to the Pens. The Caps have 120pts and the Pens have 99pts. The Caps So? How many times have San Jose dominated the regular season and failed in the playoffs? Fleury is as far removed from his Finals play as Ozzy is Ozzy has been terrible for 2 regular seasons now. Difference is that this year we don't need to turn to him in the playoffs. I don't think he could handle it this year anyway due to his minimal playing time Yes because the Canadiens are the defending champions... Fleury is a big game goalie, his stats aren't good but he gets the job done. I'm not saying the Penguin's are going to repeat and sweep, but I really think you are underestimating them. If Malkin actually decides to not take penalties and actually play they will be very strong. This And the Wings are the defending Western Conference champs... not many people have us as favourites to come out of the West. Although if you base it only on post olympics play the Wings should be scaring the crap out of people. They are. Why? Recent history suggests we can step it up in the playoffs. Just like the pens. Just like Fleury. Edited April 11, 2010 by crotty99 1 swiss_fan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titanium2 867 Report post Posted April 11, 2010 They are, why? Recent history suggests we can step it up in the playoffs. Just like the pens. Just like Fleury. Well how have the Pens played since the Olympic break? That's his main emphasis. 1 Zeowingsfan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drake_Marcus 890 Report post Posted April 11, 2010 Of course the past has no direct impact on the present but its certainly a good guide for whats to come. Fluery has proven to be a playoff performer his last two years so theres no reason he can't turn it on again. Like i said Ozzie had similar if not worse numbers last year but managed to take us to the final once again. So? How many times have San Jose dominated the regular season and failed in the playoffs? Ozzy has been terrible for 2 regular seasons now. Difference is that this year we don't need to turn to him in the playoffs. I don't think he could handle it this year anyway due to his minimal playing time Good news! Fleury has also been brutal for the last two regular seasons. Know what the difference between the Sharks and Caps is? I'll give you a hint-- he had the best point per game rating in the playoffs last year (1.5 frigging points per frigging game!) and he's easily the best offensive player in the league. Also he's Russian and his name rhymes with Movechkin. And he drives a sweet car. 2 Zeowingsfan and crotty99 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carman 387 Report post Posted April 11, 2010 (edited) Well how have the Pens played since the Olympic break? That's his main emphasis. Good enough for home ice in the first round. Good news! Fleury has also been brutal for the last two regular seasons. Know what the difference between the Sharks and Caps is? I'll give you a hint-- he had the best point per game rating in the playoffs last year (1.5 frigging points per frigging game!) and he's easily the best offensive player in the league. Also he's Russian and his name rhymes with Movechkin. And he drives a sweet car. Is that the same Russian that helped embarrass his country in the Olympics? Edited April 11, 2010 by Carman 2 swiss_fan and crotty99 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titanium2 867 Report post Posted April 11, 2010 Good news! Fleury has also been brutal for the last two regular seasons. Know what the difference between the Sharks and Caps is? I'll give you a hint-- he had the best point per game rating in the playoffs last year (1.5 frigging points per frigging game!) and he's easily the best offensive player in the league. Also he's Russian and his name rhymes with Movechkin. And he drives a sweet car. Hahaha. Glad to know there are other people who use sarcasm like that. 2 Zeowingsfan and crotty99 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crotty99 302 Report post Posted April 11, 2010 Know what the difference between the Sharks and Caps is? I'll give you a hint-- he had the best point per game rating in the playoffs last year (1.5 frigging points per frigging game!) and he's easily the best offensive player in the league. Also he's Russian and his name rhymes with Movechkin. And he drives a sweet car. Ovechkin is a machine, no one can argue with that. Just sayin, Lots of regular season points/wins won't win you a cup and Im yet to be convinced this caps team will win it all this year. I'd happily eat my words though Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heroes of Hockeytown 694 Report post Posted April 11, 2010 And if Fleury is such a joke the Wings wouldn't have lost the SCF last year. I don't know about that, it was kind of funny how everything ended up actually. With the condition the Wings were in, if Fleury had any consistency at all they might have been able to win even sooner. Even though Fleury was godmode in Games 6 and 7, the Wings were able to run away with the first two games thanks to his sitting on pucks and giving up knuckleballs to Abdelkader, and Game 5 pretty much turned on his whiffing of Cleary's long range wrister. He gaveth and tooketh away. 1 Drake_Marcus reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drake_Marcus 890 Report post Posted April 11, 2010 Well how have the Pens played since the Olympic break? That's his main emphasis. This. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crotty99 302 Report post Posted April 11, 2010 My emphasis is that playoffs are a different beast all together. The Wings epitomised this last season. Their defensive stats were woeful, ozzy was terrible, yet come playoffs the team was focussed and a joy to watch for most of it. Infact didnt the wings sort of tumble into the playoffs down the stretch last year? I could be wrong on that, i seem to remember losing near the end. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drake_Marcus 890 Report post Posted April 11, 2010 I don't know about that, it was kind of funny how everything ended up actually. With the condition the Wings were in, if Fleury had any consistency at all they might have been able to win even sooner. Even though Fleury was godmode in Games 6 and 7, the Wings were able to run away with the first two games thanks to his sitting on pucks and giving up knuckleballs to Abdelkader, and Game 5 pretty much turned on his whiffing of Cleary's long range wrister. He gaveth and tooketh away. This! It's funny how many people forget Fleury's earlier play after he played amazing in games 6 and 7. Yeah he deserves credit for that (and he got it-- it's a cool ring covered in diamonds), but that doesn't mean he's immune to criticism for s***ting the bed on other occasions. For example-- Crosby had one point in elimination games at the Olympics. He scored the OT winner but he didn't help them enough on the way there. He should've been Canada's mvp but he wasn't even their best forward. Iginla was infinitely more important to our gold because he showed up for all of the elimination games. And before Carman screams "BUT HE SCORED THE GOLDEN GOAL!". So did McCarty-- does that mean he was the Wings' MVP that year? The list of guys who scored championship winning goals is long and doesn't necessarily include all of the best players on those teams. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites