stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted June 21, 2010 (edited) I still love Lils and would welcome him back with open arms, but if Johnny Boychuk could be had for around a 1.5 or less, I'd love to see him here - Right handed shot, can play the point on the PP, pretty solid positionally and can hit and I mean HIT... I still think he'll get a decent raise to stay in Boston due to his age (26), potential and the season he had: 51GP 5G 10A 15PTS +10 Playoffs: 13GP 2G 4A 6PTS 0+/- EDIT - MODS - Can you please fix my title? typo... Edited June 22, 2010 by stevkrause Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Finnish Wing 110 Report post Posted June 21, 2010 I'd definitely go for him. He's got a rocket of a shot and can play physical as well. Fan favourite in Boston, I think. Is he really going to be available? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king_malice 17 Report post Posted June 21, 2010 Ya id take Boychuk over Lils, we might be able to pick-up Boychuk for a couple reasons there tight to the cap and have alot of UFA/RFA to re-sign and if the rumors are true about them getting Horton they will need to make some space Stuart-Rafalski Kronwall-Lidstrom Boychuk-Ericcson Kindl ill take that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted June 21, 2010 (edited) I'd definitely go for him. He's got a rocket of a shot and can play physical as well. Fan favourite in Boston, I think. Is he really going to be available? Well he is an UFA on July 1st and hasn't been re-signed yet, so... anything is possible really... Ya id take Boychuk over Lils, we might be able to pick-up Boychuk for a couple reasons there tight to the cap and have alot of UFA/RFA to re-sign and if the rumors are true about them getting Horton they will need to make some space Stuart-Rafalski Kronwall-Lidstrom Boychuk-Ericsson Kindl ill take that exactly... that's the only reason I even brought it up - I see it as an outside shot, but not impossible, especially if they DO make a run at Horton... If we offered him 1.5, that's still a considerable raise from his salary last year... I'd love to see him in the Winged Wheel! Edited June 21, 2010 by stevkrause Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carman 387 Report post Posted June 21, 2010 (edited) I really like him, but I think he's going to get a bigger contract than the Wings can match. He's a good player though it's worth a shot. Edited June 21, 2010 by Carman 1 Branton87 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Original-Six 254 Report post Posted June 21, 2010 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOuiRgUVwQo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king_malice 17 Report post Posted June 21, 2010 maybe Holland can sweet talk him into signing a 1 yr deal with the Wings for 1-1.5mill then tell Boychuck he will get a longer deal after this season whether Lids retires or stays for another but takes less then they can offer Boychuk more money and more years lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted June 21, 2010 I really like him, but I think he's going to get a bigger contract the Wings can match. He's a good player though it's worth a shot. That's what I think too, but it's not completely out of the realm of possibility... MODS - Can you please fix my title? typo... maybe Holland can sweet talk him into signing a 1 yr deal with the Wings for 1-1.5mill then tell Boychuck he will get a longer deal after this season whether Lids retires or stays for another but takes less then they can offer Boychuk more money and more years lol haha, probably not very likely given his age, I'm sure his agent will want term in the event of injury/earning potential... but it's nice to think about... one way or another though, he'd be a great fit here... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buppy 1,720 Report post Posted June 21, 2010 We could potentially have as much as $2 million to offer, and I think he'd be worth it. But with so few decent young defensemen available this summer, I think there's a good chance someone offers him more than that. I'd love it, but the chance of getting him at 1.5 or less has got to be close to zero. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozen-Man 144 Report post Posted June 21, 2010 Ya id take Boychuk over Lils, we might be able to pick-up Boychuk for a couple reasons there tight to the cap and have alot of UFA/RFA to re-sign and if the rumors are true about them getting Horton they will need to make some space Stuart-Rafalski Kronwall-Lidstrom Boychuk-Ericcson Kindl ill take that I like to have him here, he would be a good addition. It would be nice to have a good hitter on each line too (if they are set up the way you suggested). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king_malice 17 Report post Posted June 21, 2010 I like to have him here, he would be a good addition. It would be nice to have a good hitter on each line too (if they are set up the way you suggested). ya thats why i did them like that, lets face it Lids and Raffy are awsome together but guys on the other team dont have to worry about getting lit up when they are out there against them, this way the pairing are still good Kronwall will potentially learn something from playing with Lids same could be said for Stuart and Raffy, but now there is a guy on every pairing that can light someone up Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted June 21, 2010 ya thats why i did them like that, lets face it Lids and Raffy are awsome together but guys on the other team dont have to worry about getting lit up when they are out there against them, this way the pairing are still good Kronwall will potentially learn something from playing with Lids same could be said for Stuart and Raffy, but now there is a guy on every pairing that can light someone up and every pairing has talent too... it's not like they can just hit, there are NO weak pairings in that scenario, each pairing has players who's playing styles VERY heavily compliment one another... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jesusberg 1,256 Report post Posted June 21, 2010 I wish... I really do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Octopus's Garden 147 Report post Posted June 21, 2010 I like this idea, I really do. Although, allow me to play devil's advocate for a second ... $2 million for a guy that's played one kind-of-full season in the NHL, in a move that would kick a relatively established guy like Lilja to the curb, could be a gutsy one. At least, it feels gutsy for Kenny Holland, if nothing else. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AtomicPunk 296 Report post Posted June 21, 2010 You guys are hilarious. What makes anyone think Boston would let him go if he is so good? And if he is so good, why would he sign for the pennies we have left under the cap? And the people who would take him over Nick Lidstrom based on his ONE YEAR in the bigs? (KingMalice) Puh-leaze... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted June 21, 2010 You guys are hilarious. What makes anyone think Boston would let him go if he is so good? And if he is so good, why would he sign for the pennies we have left under the cap? And the people who would take him over Nick Lidstrom based on his ONE YEAR in the bigs? (KingMalice) Puh-leaze... Who the hell said they would take him over Lidstrom?!?!? Also, the fact is, we're not saying he is a top 2 guy, he would be a bottom pairing guy and only made 500k last year, so 1.5 is a HUGE raise and Boston is up against the cap, ESPECIALLY if they add Horton AND they already have 6 full time, non-waiver exempt defensemen under contract, so it might just be a matter of them not being able to afford him... Please don't reply if you are going to completely disregard the context of the entire thread... I like this idea, I really do. Although, allow me to play devil's advocate for a second ... $2 million for a guy that's played one kind-of-full season in the NHL, in a move that would kick a relatively established guy like Lilja to the curb, could be a gutsy one. At least, it feels gutsy for Kenny Holland, if nothing else. Well, that's where a couple of us differ, I'd rather it be 1.5 or less, however, a right handed shot with PP ability, could bump him to 2... it's something Babs loves and would fit a couple needs... Like I said in the first place, I'd welcome Lils back with open arms, but I think we'd be remiss to not at least make a call and see if he is an option... and if so, well... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king_malice 17 Report post Posted June 21, 2010 Boychuck 4yrs-6.5mill cap hit of 1.675 if im not mistaken get'r done kenny Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buppy 1,720 Report post Posted June 21, 2010 You guys are hilarious. What makes anyone think Boston would let him go if he is so good? And if he is so good, why would he sign for the pennies we have left under the cap? And the people who would take him over Nick Lidstrom based on his ONE YEAR in the bigs? (KingMalice) Puh-leaze... Lol, when I first saw it I thought he said Lids too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hooon 1,089 Report post Posted June 21, 2010 Agree with others about the likelihood being slim, but I'd love to have him. I love Lils but this guy is way better, as he could chip in a lot of offense. If he played a full 82 games he could probably be good for 20-25 points, which I'd take any day from a 3rd line pairing. He's a big guy, hits hard, and protects his own players. A few questions. Who did he play with in Boston? Did he play on the PK at all? Could he fit on our PK? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lamothe 5 Report post Posted June 21, 2010 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOuiRgUVwQo HOLY s***! I had no idea Boychuck hit like this. Sign this guy UP! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jollymania 162 Report post Posted June 21, 2010 (edited) no way we get this guy I don't think, he is gonna get a hefty raise, probably the 3rd best hitter in the league last year behind Wilson and Sutton.I think we should wait and try to get Wilson next year. he is RFA EL this year. Edited June 21, 2010 by jollymania Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AtomicPunk 296 Report post Posted June 21, 2010 Over Lils? Yes. Over Lids? No. Sorry about the one consonant difference. But he's still not coming here. The Wings seem content to merely re-sign. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Icesurfer 75 Report post Posted June 22, 2010 This is a copy of a post I made a while back: # This is Boston's roster as it stands right now. They have yet to sign Wheeler.... so add about $3 mil. Patrice Bergeron — $4,750,000 Milan Lucic — $4,083,333 Marc Savard — $4,007,143 Michael Ryder — $4,000,000 David Krejci — $3,750,000 Marco Sturm — $3,500,000 Zach Hamill ($500,000) $1,316,667 Brad Marchand ($165,000) $821,667 Shawn Thornton — $812,500 Trent Whitfield — $550,000 DEFENSEMEN Zdeno Chara — $7,500,000 Dennis Wideman — $3,937,500 Dennis Seidenberg — $3,250,000 Andrew Ference — $2,250,000 Matt Hunwick — $1,450,000 Jeff Penner ($1,000,000) $1,208,333 GOALTENDERS Tim Thomas — $5,000,000 Tuukka Rask — $1,250,000 BUYOUTS Peter Schaefer — $766,667 Patrick Eaves — $-41,667 LOST VIA REENTRY WAIVERS NONE CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS ROSTER SIZE 18 SALARY CAP $56,800,000 PAYROLL $54,162,143 BONUSES $1,665,000 CAP SPACE $4,302,857 Listed on the roster now are 10 forwards (without Wheeler) and 6 defensemen. Someone said they would sign Hall or Seguin at about $3.75 mil. Obviously doesn't leave a lot of room for Boychuk. If they were going to try to sign him they prolly can give him only around $1 mil or less. Wings could give him 1.3 - 1.6 mil. He has played with Chara and Wideman. What is interesting is that his +10 was second on team behind Chara. Wings could always keep Meech if they don't think Kindl will pan out. # In Topic: 6th Defenseman 05 June 2010 - 08:30 PM The Wings should go after Johnny Boychuk from Boston, 26 yo, big and responsible defensively and a big hitter..... he will become an excellent defenceman. A Boston fan's assessment of Boychuk: "He has a BOMB of a shot. It's hard and some what accurate. That is his most valuable skill. He's not really a PP QB, he's a defenseman with a cannon and he does remind me a lot of Souray. Not a great skater, not a great passer, physical, and a huge cannon shot. He was named the top AHL defenseman of the year. He has good positioning but he needs to play with a really good defenseman or he's going to be exposed. He can't carry a pairing yet. But he hasn't left Chara or Wideman out to dry. IMO, he's a future #4 defenseman that can play on a team's top PP unit, blasting shots from the point. I don't think he'll ever be a good PMD, but he should be a good physical #4." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted June 22, 2010 This is a copy of a post I made a while back: # This is Boston's roster as it stands right now. They have yet to sign Wheeler.... so add about $3 mil. Listed on the roster now are 10 forwards (without Wheeler) and 6 defensemen. Someone said they would sign Hall or Seguin at about $3.75 mil. Obviously doesn't leave a lot of room for Boychuk. If they were going to try to sign him they prolly can give him only around $1 mil or less. Wings could give him 1.3 - 1.6 mil. He has played with Chara and Wideman. What is interesting is that his +10 was second on team behind Chara. Wings could always keep Meech if they don't think Kindl will pan out. # In Topic: 6th Defenseman 05 June 2010 - 08:30 PM The Wings should go after Johnny Boychuk from Boston, 26 yo, big and responsible defensively and a big hitter..... he will become an excellent defenceman. A Boston fan's assessment of Boychuk: "He has a BOMB of a shot. It's hard and some what accurate. That is his most valuable skill. He's not really a PP QB, he's a defenseman with a cannon and he does remind me a lot of Souray. Not a great skater, not a great passer, physical, and a huge cannon shot. He was named the top AHL defenseman of the year. He has good positioning but he needs to play with a really good defenseman or he's going to be exposed. He can't carry a pairing yet. But he hasn't left Chara or Wideman out to dry. IMO, he's a future #4 defenseman that can play on a team's top PP unit, blasting shots from the point. I don't think he'll ever be a good PMD, but he should be a good physical #4." Agreed... the only problem is, that someone else might sign him for even more than we can afford... I don't think he'll be back in Boston one way or another, but at the same token, I don't think our odds are very good either, but I'd LOVE to see him here... I'd even go as far as to seeing Kenny make a minor move to open up space for him... just to free up like 500k so we could offer him in the 2m range... I really think he has potential to be a great d-man and would be a good addition to the second PP unit... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robb himself 143 Report post Posted June 22, 2010 (edited) I would take him in a heartbeat for a multi year deal at around 1.5-2 mill area... Kenny...let lils and meech walk and get this guy signed! be about it... Edited June 22, 2010 by robb himself Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
