Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted March 24, 2011 So you would rather have Hudler's talents wasted on the fourh line and have Holmstrom bring down Datsyuk and Franzen? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
under_par_00 45 Report post Posted March 24, 2011 Jiri was the best player on the ice against the Canucks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nyquistfan14 489 Report post Posted March 24, 2011 Jiri was the best player on the ice against the Canucks. I second that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doc Holliday 1,888 Report post Posted March 24, 2011 Are we going to say Holmstrom is a better option at even strength? Honestly? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted March 25, 2011 Are we going to say Holmstrom is a better option at even strength? Honestly? Hating Hudler is what the cool kids do, Doc. They'd rather see Miller and Draper as top six wingers than Hudler. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
under_par_00 45 Report post Posted March 25, 2011 Didn't Hudler look real good playing on Zetterberg's wing last game? I think that is a combination that Babcock does not use nearly enough (in fact, I don't think he has ever used it before for longer than a game). They compliment each other well, and Hudler is like a Datsyuk-lite out there with his playmaking abilities. The return of 40G Z? I absolutely love these combinations: Franzen - Datsyuk - Bertuzzi Hudler - Zetterberg - Cleary Modano - Filppula - Abdelkader Draper - Helm - Eaves/Miller Why can't it stick like this? Why (once healthy) are we going to see a line of Cleary - Zetterberg - Bertuzzi? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Broken 16 381 Report post Posted March 25, 2011 So you would rather have Hudler's talents wasted on the fourh line and have Holmstrom bring down Datsyuk and Franzen? Do you mean... ninety-sux? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nyquistfan14 489 Report post Posted March 25, 2011 Didn't Hudler look real good playing on Zetterberg's wing last game? I think that is a combination that Babcock does not use nearly enough (in fact, I don't think he has ever used it before for longer than a game). They compliment each other well, and Hudler is like a Datsyuk-lite out there with his playmaking abilities. The return of 40G Z? I absolutely love these combinations: Franzen - Datsyuk - Bertuzzi Hudler - Zetterberg - Cleary Modano - Filppula - Abdelkader Draper - Helm - Eaves/Miller Why can't it stick like this? Why (once healthy) are we going to see a line of Cleary - Zetterberg - Bertuzzi? I like the looks of these lines. As i recall Datsyuk played with Bert for a good stretch last year and they had very good chemistry. But we all know that Homer will not be a healthy scratch. Hopefully he is on the 4th lines because that third line with Abby is so much better. Hopefully Homer gets 4th line minutes and is fresh and affective for the powerplay. Does anybody else feel that with Homer's even strength drawbacks that it would be more benificial for the team to have him as a health bomb and have Cleary park his rear end in front of the net? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HankthaTank 1,100 Report post Posted March 25, 2011 Hudler is like a Datsyuk-lite out there with his playmaking abilities. Hmmm, that is a large overstatement. I realize the "lite" part implies he is quite less than him but I would give Flips the "Datsyuk-lite" tag. Hudler is a talented playmaker, no doubt. Just thinking the Datsyuk part to this is overdone considering he has little to no Datsyuk type ability. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
under_par_00 45 Report post Posted March 25, 2011 Hmmm, that is a large overstatement. I realize the "lite" part implies he is quite less than him but I would give Flips the "Datsyuk-lite" tag. Hudler is a talented playmaker, no doubt. Just thinking the Datsyuk part to this is overdone considering he has little to no Datsyuk type ability. The way I see it would be like this: Hudler is Datsyuk-lite as far as passing is concerned. Filppula is Datsyuk-lite as far as dangling is concerned. Filp can dangle, but he does not have the vision, accurate pass, or saucer that Hudler has. Hudler's passing is sublime out there, I suggest you watch him in the neutral and offensive zone more closely. He is always finding the open man, leading through pass, or perfect saucer through the lanes. Filp can dangle, hang onto the puck, and fly with his skating ability. His passing is OK, and offensive vision is OK, but no where near the level of Hudler. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HankthaTank 1,100 Report post Posted March 25, 2011 The way I see it would be like this: Hudler is Datsyuk-lite as far as passing is concerned. Filppula is Datsyuk-lite as far as dangling is concerned. Filp can dangle, but he does not have the vision, accurate pass, or saucer that Hudler has. Hudler's passing is sublime out there, I suggest you watch him in the neutral and offensive zone more closely. He is always finding the open man, leading through pass, or perfect saucer through the lanes. Filp can dangle, hang onto the puck, and fly with his skating ability. His passing is OK, and offensive vision is OK, but no where near the level of Hudler. I have watched and I would give him a definite for his passing ability. Prime example would be the goal in Tampa where he threaded a spectacular saucer pass which is in this thread somewhere. I will not take a single thing away from Jiri's ability to pass the puck, that I will give you. Val's overall game really is closer to a "Pav-lite" imo, but that's what we are here for. To shell out our own uneducated opinions Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
under_par_00 45 Report post Posted March 25, 2011 Overall game, yes Filppula would be a better comparison for Datsyuk. Offensively, I (and we) think Hudler is a better comparison. Either way I think the combination of Hudler and Zetterberg together would look great out there. Zetterberg wouldn't have to do all the creative work offensively that he does when he is on a line with people like Cleary and Bertuzzi. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nyquistfan14 489 Report post Posted March 27, 2011 Great game Huds Babs leave him with z and cleary it works Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mabuhay Red Wings 177 Report post Posted March 27, 2011 Had to work and so I didn't get to watch the game. So Hudler is on a line with Zetterberg and Cleary? Doesn't look like it as Hudler only played almost 11 minutes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nyquistfan14 489 Report post Posted March 27, 2011 Had to work and so I didn't get to watch the game. So Hudler is on a line with Zetterberg and Cleary? Doesn't look like it as Hudler only played almost 11 minutes. He started the game with Abby and Miller. Had an assist on Z's powerplay goal. I believe midway through the 2nd (or around that time) he and Bert switched places. He was great tonight not only on the stat sheet, but he was working very hard, backchecking, creating turnovers, getting pucks out of the zone at key times, etc. Very very solid game for Jiri tonight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
under_par_00 45 Report post Posted March 27, 2011 Long live the Zetterberg - Hudler connection! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted March 27, 2011 Long live the Zetterberg - Hudler connection! Dear Babs, you've found gold... STOP MESSING WITH IT... Cleary and Hudler work very well together and both need to be with a top line center to be most effective, so its pretty simple, keep them together and with Pav or Hank, and they will both produce... I also like Bert with Franzen, and Fil and Modano seem to have found some good chemistry as well, so... there's that... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
under_par_00 45 Report post Posted March 27, 2011 Dear Babs, you've found gold... STOP MESSING WITH IT... Cleary and Hudler work very well together and both need to be with a top line center to be most effective, so its pretty simple, keep them together and with Pav or Hank, and they will both produce... I also like Bert with Franzen, and Fil and Modano seem to have found some good chemistry as well, so... there's that... Modano looks great on Fil's wing as long as he stops taking wristers from the blue line. That is the perfect 3rd line behind Dats/Franzen/Bert and Huds/Z/Cleary Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dragonballgtz 273 Report post Posted March 27, 2011 Dear Babs, you've found gold... STOP MESSING WITH IT... Cleary and Hudler work very well together and both need to be with a top line center to be most effective, so its pretty simple, keep them together and with Pav or Hank, and they will both produce... I also like Bert with Franzen, and Fil and Modano seem to have found some good chemistry as well, so... there's that... I disagree with the Flip and Mo line. Modano can give Flip the puck right on the tape when he is covered but Flip cannot give Mo the puck when he is covered. Usually Flips passes to him are in his skates and something I noticed (well IMO at least) is that Mo has a hard time while is in stride going skate to stick. Personally I would put Mo on a line with Z or Mule since they are more of a sniper which Mo can be the setup man. Mo has made some good "veteran plays" in the last few games that needed someone with a better finishing touch to work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted March 27, 2011 His speed isnt a big problem anymore, he has great vision, and actually a laser beam of a slapper. He might be lazy and sucks, but I'm not Hudler hater anymore 1 T.Low reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HankthaTank 1,100 Report post Posted March 28, 2011 A freakin' snipe Happy! Hank's passes just make players shoot harder don't they? (jk eva) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted March 31, 2011 -4 against St. Louis. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mabuhay Red Wings 177 Report post Posted March 31, 2011 -4 against St. Louis. So that's why he gets bumped to the 4th line for periods of time eh? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buppy 1,720 Report post Posted March 31, 2011 -4 against St. Louis. Brutal game for that line tonight. Really didn't even have any decent scoring chances 5v5, and hideous defensively. Hopefully it pisses them off and they all score hatties next game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted April 25, 2011 I approve of his play so far in the postseason. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
