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Homer needs to be a 4th liner/PP specialist next season..

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#21 lookalive07



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Posted 16 May 2011 - 03:28 PM

Hooray! A Blueadams line thread and we can finally neg again!

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Posted 16 May 2011 - 03:48 PM

someone please tell me why they think bertuzzi adds more to the team than, say, jan mursak?

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Posted 16 May 2011 - 04:06 PM

I agree with the original assessment for the most part, except putting Homer on the fourth line.

I think the combination of Eaves/Helm/Miller (or Mursak, etc.) is far more effective than just throwing Holmstrom in there with them. Keep him on the 2nd/3rd lines and try to go out and get one more top six forward in the offseason via some sort of trade.

Bertuzzi has shown he can be an effective enforcer-type when motivated, but he has been somewhat disappointing as far as a scorer. Let Abdelkader take his role and plug Bertuzzi into games to give other guys a rest.

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Posted 16 May 2011 - 06:40 PM


As far as I know, our season is over?

Why would we have the exact same players we had this season save one spot? I'm assuming Holland will make more changes than that.

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Posted 16 May 2011 - 10:17 PM


As far as I know, our season is over?

Why would we have the exact same players we had this season save one spot? I'm assuming Holland will make more changes than that.

Because for the most part, all the players are already signed for next year.

Mursak in for Modano seems almost certain. The rest of our FAs are at the bottom of the roster, aside from Nick. We'll probably make a few minor changes, but anything major seems highly unlikely.

And our biggest need is defense (backup goalie should be simple). We were 2nd in scoring. 23rd in goals against. Nick (and Rafi) probably won't be around much longer. FA defensemen are much deeper than forwards this year too. If we have the cap space for anything significant, we need to spend it on something to help ease the eventual Nick transition.

We also don't have much in terms of tradeable assets. Flip, maybe Cleary and Abby. Anyone else with value is more valuable than whatever we could get in return. If we move Flip, we probably need a top-6 capable center with speed, solid defense, but better goal scoring. I don't know that we'd be able to put together any package that really provides much improvement.

Our forwards were fine. They'll most likely be fine again next year. The team as a whole was good enough to win a Cup, just didn't play quite well enough to start the SJ series. We have one more year with a very good team that should again be a contender. After that we'll probably need a shakeup, with Homer, Bert, Huds, Rafi, Stu, Kronwall, maybe Nick, plus any temps we get for next year all UFA, Helm and Abby RFA. Then a new CBA to worry about too. That will probably be our big transition year.

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Posted 16 May 2011 - 10:20 PM

I don't understand how some can speculate that Cleary and Filppula should be traded when they were two of the more consistent players in the playoffs.. Every year it's "Cleary is expendable" no matter what the guy does.
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Posted 17 May 2011 - 03:04 PM

Hooray! A Blueadams line thread and we can finally neg again!

Lol, I wonder who that was from? :hehe:

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Posted 18 May 2011 - 08:03 AM

yeah you mine as well get homer a lawn chair and some kool-aid, cuz thats where youll always find him. the ONLY time that its good to plant in front like that is on the PP, its like being short handed out there with him in front.
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Posted 18 May 2011 - 12:22 PM

lookalive07, You just replied to yourself? congrats!

Edited by Pucks, 18 May 2011 - 12:24 PM.

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Posted 18 May 2011 - 12:52 PM

I honestly can't understand how so many members to this forum make posts that are so emotionally based. I'm not saying you have to have the same opinion as I do but I keep reading all kinds of posts/threads that go on these emotional rants about players that have no justification as to the hatred. It seems like so many people on here can't look at players and their play objectively.

Persaonlly I would like to see the Wings step up and get a defensemen and a top six winger if the cap should enable them to do so. I think Bertuzzi is better suited on the 3rd line and when needed he can step up and fill a 2nd line spot.

I'll never understand the blind hatred for Holmstrom and people need to learn how to give credit where credit is due. His puck retrival skills are huge.
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Posted 18 May 2011 - 02:15 PM

lookalive07, You just replied to yourself? congrats!

I was referring to the neg I got. Quoting myself was only so anyone confused could refer to my post to see the neg. However, I can see why it was confusing...I didn't really mention it in the first place.

Edit: looking at my original post, things get even more dicey as I now no longer have a neg. Carry on.

Edited by lookalive07, 18 May 2011 - 02:16 PM.

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Posted 18 May 2011 - 03:17 PM

Holmstrom does not have the toolset to be a 4th line/grinder. He's a scoring line complementary player/specialist.
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Posted 18 May 2011 - 09:58 PM

I think that the OP putting Hudler on the second line, let alone on the team at all, is more of a atrocity than Holmstrom being on Datsyuk's wing... Sure Homer has lost a step or 9, but he is still one of the best at what he does, and he doesn't do it JUST on the power play. Therein lies the problem with putting him on the 4th line, he is not a grinder, and for him to do his job correctly, someone had to get the puck on the net once in awhile. I agree with being a power play specialist, but he still has enough talent to play with the big boys.... other's on this team, do not....

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Posted 20 May 2011 - 05:43 PM

Disagree with the OP.

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