Nev 1,085 Report post Posted February 23, 2012 The way Homer has talked about the Winter Classic, I think he (and Nick) will be back for 1 more season. I think Stuart is as good as gone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MabusIncarnate 5,344 Report post Posted February 23, 2012 Glad to have Bert for another two seasons, great signing! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aussie_Wing 354 Report post Posted February 23, 2012 The way Homer has talked about the Winter Classic, I think he (and Nick) will be back for 1 more season. I think Stuart is as good as gone. Oh gosh, seriously just no. I like the guy, he's been fantastic for us over so many years, but he's done. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
evilzyme 769 Report post Posted February 23, 2012 Oh gosh, seriously just no. I like the guy, he's been fantastic for us over so many years, but he's done. To each his own view, but let it be known... you don't realize how much you miss an element until it's gone. 1 Esquire reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingslogo19 281 Report post Posted February 23, 2012 :thumbup: :thumbup: Super Bert with 2 sticks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Esquire 324 Report post Posted February 23, 2012 As per Bob McKenzie: Todd Bertuzzi's two-year (over 35) extension with DET is $1.975M in Year 1 and $2.175M in Year 2 for an AAV of $2.075M. #TradeCentre #tsn Bertuzzi also has an NTC. #TradeCentre #tsn Of the $1.975M Bertuzzi gets next season, $200K of it is a signing bonus payable this July 1. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hatchet Barry 71 Report post Posted February 23, 2012 According to TSN's Bob McKenzie Todd Bertuzzi's two-year (over 35) extension with DET is $1.975M in Year 1 and a 200K siging bonus payable July 1st $2.175M in Year 2 for an AAV of $2.075M. Also includes a NTC. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dragonballgtz 273 Report post Posted February 23, 2012 I don't like the second year because of our youth in the AHL but this might mean that Holland isn't to impressed with them at this point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buppy 1,720 Report post Posted February 23, 2012 does anyone know if nyquist can play another year in the ahl without being claimed on waivers ?? With this move i cant see the redwings bringing up nyquist as well as tatar( whos out of waivers options as of next year) unless hudler is not coming back or if nquist is starts in the 4th line which i think would be pointless , he needs top 6 opportunities or its just a waste of time Both Nyquist and Tatar are exempt next year. Andersson might be out though. Not sure if it goes by the date of his ELC, or his amatuer tryout contract. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted February 23, 2012 Confirmed: http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/news;_ylt=An8kCA5MVcoqJ2zXa4azy557vLYF?slug=ap-redwings-bertuzzi Super Bert with 2 sticks He's also got an extra wrist and another hand coming out of his left glove. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ogreslayer 1,069 Report post Posted February 23, 2012 (edited) Both Nyquist and Tatar are exempt next year. Andersson might be out though. Not sure if it goes by the date of his ELC, or his amatuer tryout contract. Pretty sure it's based on when they signed their entry level contract. Edit: More detail... Exempt Due to Experience This is the meat and potatoes of determining waiver eligibility. Three key factors determine whether a player is waiver eligible; age, years of experience, and # of games played.. Age is defined as the age of the player when he signs his entry-level contract with an NHL club. This is used to determine the thresholds for the players' waiver eligibility. The thresholds are the number of years from signing a professional contract, and the number of professional games played. Depending on the age as determined above, a player is waiver eligible for a certain number of years from the year in which he signed his first contract, as shown below. Goalies Skaters Age Years Age Years 18 6* 18 5* 19 5* 19 4* 20 4 20 3 21 4 21 3 22 4 22 3 23 3 23 3 24 2 24 2 25+ 1 25+ 1 Edited February 23, 2012 by ogreslayer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IllinoisRedWingsFan 49 Report post Posted February 24, 2012 Not a huge fan of this signing but at least it wasn't Hudler Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Holmstrom96 347 Report post Posted February 24, 2012 Woot! Two more years with the paralyzer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T.Low 1,011 Report post Posted February 24, 2012 You are so right there is more than hockey than production. Like defense, which he doesn't play. He actually is a much worse player than his offensive numbers let on. I am not a fan of Bertuzzi in any way shape or form. I don't mind him as a depth player... but when you already see us in a number crunch of how many people we can have on our team. I don't like him being the first one added. I want to say many have cited how he plays with Pavel and they expect more of him. Some have said it is unfair. I would like to go the opposite direction... Instead of saying how much more production you expect out of Bert when playing with Pavel, what about saying how much more production Pavel could get with a better finisher. Pavel is a player who makes people better by giving space on the ice and making strong passes. Bert is slow and not really a sniper. He can go to the net pretty hard, but slowly. When there is extra space on the ice, you need someone who can quickly move from gap to gap, or find the soft spot and rip a shot. Need I remind you how Brett and Pav played together??? I think Bert would play much better on a heavy line where the puck is cycled along the boards and players crash the net hard. I always like him and Cleary together and think Helm or abs would be a great third on that line. Fact is he is an anchor to the top two lines, and is part of the reason IMO that Zetter's production is lacking. Franzen and Bert are too much alike for us to have them both in the top six. He should be the guy last in line that Holland goes to and say, we will give you a one year for x dollars if you make the team. He shouldn't be taking a roster spot and contract right off the bat. This contract wouldn't bother me as much if it was the last signing of next year's off season and he was a bit cheaper. Not much, but like 200k would have made a bunch of difference in 2013-14. This money should be going to Helm and Abs, not Bert. Holland clearly wants to make him the new Homer. Holland is pissing me off this month. I happen to run into Mike and Marion Illitch at the Fox Theatre and I told them all about this post and about how much more hockey savy you have than Kenny Holland, Jim Nil, and Mike Babcock. Dude, they so want to hook up with you. They will be at the Little Ceasers at 7447 Gratiot Ave tomorrow morning and want to take you to the Machus Red Fox for brunch to talk about your ideas. 1 Frozen-Man reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T.Low 1,011 Report post Posted February 24, 2012 (edited) I like this signing. I think the raise is due to the fact that he has worked out better than anyone first thought. He would get more now on the open market because of showcasing himself in Detroit for the last two years. While Nyquist and Tatar need some ice time, they are 5'10 185. Bertuzzi is 6'3", 220, has awesome hands, is an excellent passer, has leanred to play D and Babcock says he is now a great shut down guy, and he has ragdolled Dion Phanueff, Shane Patatos OBrien, and many others. When Maxim Lapierre is runnin around taking indecent liberties with Red WIngs players, is Nyquist going to skate right up to Vancouver's bench and tell him to cool his f***in jets? No, but Bert has that sort of respect from every team in the league, and nobody wants to tangle with him. They know that f*****'s dangerously strong. He's got a great edge to his game. Pavs, Franzen, and Bert is an awesome line. How many guys can pass and make plays like him, win shootouts like him, and protect teammates like him? He may be half the beast he used to be, but he is still a very effective player, and still a HUGE presence that teams need to decide what to do with. Edited February 24, 2012 by T.Low 2 Nev and Uncle Danny reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Hatethedrake! Report post Posted February 25, 2012 (edited) CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR FORWARDS Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Johan Franzen ($3.954m) Valtteri Filppula ($3.000m) / Zach Parise ($6.000m) / Todd Bertuzzi ($2.075m) Daniel Cleary ($2.800m) / Darren Helm ($1.250m) / Justin Abdelkader ($1.250m) Gustav Nyquist ($0.875m) / Drew Miller ($0.837m) / Jan Mursak ($0.550m) Tomas Tatar ($0.840m) DEFENSEMEN Nicklas Lidstrom ($6.200m) / Ian White ($2.875m) Ryan Suter ($6.000m) / Niklas Kronwall ($4.750m) Kyle Quincey ($3.500m) / Brendan Smith ($0.875m) Jakub Kindl ($0.883m) GOALTENDERS Jimmy Howard ($2.250m) / Joey MacDonald ($0.550m) CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter) (these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion) SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $64,098,711; BONUSES: $247,500 CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $201,289 Edited February 26, 2012 by Hatethedrake! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites