kipwinger 8,582 Report post Posted March 1, 2012 (edited) Ok, I'm confused. Doesn't part of the new enforcement deal with hitting guys when they're in vulnerable positions or no? Note: Nevermind, the vulnerable position stuff was added to rule 48 on boarding. As he wasn't boarded this isn't an issue and the hit is ok. Edited March 1, 2012 by kipwinger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rrasco 1,312 Report post Posted March 1, 2012 Ok, I'm confused. Doesn't part of the new enforcement deal with hitting guys when they're in vulnerable positions or no? Yeah, but not if the player puts themselves in a vulnerable position immediately prior. It's also not just free reign on players to put themselves in vulnerable positions and be protected. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redwingfan19 293 Report post Posted March 1, 2012 Brendan Shanahan @NHLShanahan Reply Retweet Favorite · Open ...although it appears that the chin is grazed by the side of Nystrom's arm, the right chest and shoulder of Letang remain the PPOC. No SD. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rrasco 1,312 Report post Posted March 1, 2012 Good call. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bring Back The Bruise Bros 1,029 Report post Posted March 1, 2012 It was a good hit. Just because Letang doesn't get up right away, doesn't mean it is susension worthy. Also, just because the head is grazed doesn't warrant a suspension either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingslogo19 281 Report post Posted March 1, 2012 Right call on not giving Nystrom any games for that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted March 1, 2012 Brendan Shanahan @NHLShanahan Reply Retweet Favorite · Open ...although it appears that the chin is grazed by the side of Nystrom's arm, the right chest and shoulder of Letang remain the PPOC. No SD. Makes sense. Honestly watching it full speed it looked like a textbook headshot. Then on the replay you can see it's not and that Letang put himself in a vulnerable position. Just shows how hard it is for refs to catch this stuff in the game. Good on them for not tossing Nystrom for the hit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bring Back The Bruise Bros 1,029 Report post Posted March 1, 2012 Was he penalized at all on the play? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ilmickeyli 40 Report post Posted March 1, 2012 Was he penalized at all on the play? 2 min roughing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,582 Report post Posted March 1, 2012 2 min roughing Roughing is the league's catch all penalty for "being to rough with the other boys". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted March 2, 2012 I think the game has gotten so fast that many players on the ice may not see what actually took place, and when in doubt, or if they feel a teammate was taken advantage of it's the mentality of - "shoot 1st and ask questions later". My memory is far from perfect, but what I do recall is that certain players like Gretzky, and our very own Stevie Y were deemed "untouchable", and if any opponent got a little too rough with them - well here's Mr. Probert, or Mr. McSorley...Heck - I can remember Gallant beating the snot outta Chelios back in the old Chicago Stadium because Cheli roughed up a very young guy by the name of Sergei Fedorov. In those days I think intimidation played more of a role than it does in todays game, and when a teammate takes exception in todays game - it gets alot more attention. That's how I remember it too. There were the stars that if you took a run at, you'd likely be answering to someone like Probie or Semenko. But now it's like every good hard hit results in teammates mugging the guy who threw the hit. I looked back at some old hockey vids on youtube, and there were a lot of huge hits--some of them even looked dirty--and the play kept going. Obviously that's a small sample, but it confirmed how I remembered it. Big hits would make the games chippier overall. But they didn't immediately result in having to drop the gloves and fight just because you checked someone, like so often happens now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jaymister 71 Report post Posted March 2, 2012 It didn't look to me like he targeted the head, rather Letang leaning forward caused the collision with the head. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jollymania 162 Report post Posted March 2, 2012 just an utter disgrace of a call, he avoided as much head contact as possible and it even looks like is bicep goes backwards when it hits letang, as if he didn't even hit him at all with it, only grazed him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edicius 3,269 Report post Posted March 2, 2012 This is one of those hits where the onus is all on the hittee instead of the hitter. Letang had his head down and...well, we all saw what happened. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jollymania 162 Report post Posted March 3, 2012 This is one of those hits where the onus is all on the hittee instead of the hitter. Letang had his head down and...well, we all saw what happened. and nystrom methodically had his arm glued to his side and barely even hit letang in the head. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Majsheppard 203 Report post Posted March 3, 2012 Exactly the same situation as the Smith suspension. If you are going to protect them... okay, but the hitter shouldn't be blamed when you put your head out there to get hit. Just saying, Smith got the book thrown at him... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites