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#361 dirtydangles

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 09:47 AM

But there could be the fear that he'll play for a year under contract, and if he doesn't like it then he bolts to the KHL where he doesn't have to work as hard, and the Wings (or whoever signed him) lose him for nothing.

True but its not like we are giving assets to acquire him. If he bolts he bolts and we dont have to get rid of his contract or pay him if it doesnt work.

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 09:52 AM

I really thought by now that he would have bolted to the khl.
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Posted 16 July 2012 - 10:30 AM

True but its not like we are giving assets to acquire him. If he bolts he bolts and we dont have to get rid of his contract or pay him if it doesnt work.

Agreed.

I just meant that you think you've got a player locked up for a certain number of years and then suddenly there's a hole in your lineup that you could've tried to fill some other way.

Like when Hudler took the Wings to arbitration that commits him to signing with the Wings so I'm guessing Holland was counting on him being in the lineup. Then suddenly he bolted to the KHL and you're short a player and free agency options are limited.

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 01:53 PM

Kenny may be playing a game of Poker here. He knows that Semin has a bad reputation which is essentially why he has not signed with a team yet. Why pay him what he is asking when if you wait a little bit, the price may go down? Who knows. I think Semin would be great here. Signing a 40 goal scorer and giving up no assets is a risk worth taking IMO.
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Posted 16 July 2012 - 04:24 PM

Kenny may be playing a game of Poker here. He knows that Semin has a bad reputation which is essentially why he has not signed with a team yet. Why pay him what he is asking when if you wait a little bit, the price may go down? Who knows. I think Semin would be great here. Signing a 40 goal scorer and giving up no assets is a risk worth taking IMO.


This is true, but the very opposite might possibly happen as well. Once Doan figures out his situation then Semin is the only free agent game in town. Chances are he could cost much less before Doan's decision, and much more afterward. Hard to tell how this is going to shake out.

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 04:48 PM

Doesn't it seem like all GMs are waiting until after these CBA negotiations to make any more signings?

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 04:58 PM

Doesn't it seem like all GMs are waiting until after these CBA negotiations to make any more signings?


There have been no signings in well over a week, so yes... it seems they are. I suspect that Semin is waiting to see if a lockout will occur, and will play in the KHL should one occur.

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 06:21 PM

I just want him to sign somewhere so that all this speculation ends haha

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Posted 17 July 2012 - 08:31 AM

I just want him to sign somewhere so that all this speculation ends haha



Detroit please ;) I wouldn't mind a 4 year deal, between 5-6 mill a year. I really think he's worth the gamble. He would be without a doubt our elite goal scorer.
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Posted 17 July 2012 - 08:44 AM

I think it is really simple:

1. Sign a year deal and proof your worth

or $ign in the KHL

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Posted 17 July 2012 - 10:13 AM

Detroit please ;) I wouldn't mind a 4 year deal, between 5-6 mill a year. I really think he's worth the gamble. He would be without a doubt our elite goal scorer.

I am leaning towards the khl now for Semin unfortunately or fortunately which ever way you look at it.

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Posted 17 July 2012 - 10:27 AM

I am leaning towards the khl now for Semin unfortunately or fortunately which ever way you look at it.

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Back on topic I wouldn't be surprised to see him sign in the khl either but I hope he comes here:)
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Posted 17 July 2012 - 11:00 AM

Oh dear Im being tracked Auntie D on the interwebs, Ill be there!

Back on topic I wouldn't be surprised to see him sign in the khl either but I hope he comes here:)


It does seem like if Kenny hasn't signed him yet, it is getting less likely he will. Even with the unstable CBA situation, signing Semin still seems like a complete no brainer to me. Wings still have a mountain of cap space, even if the cap drops fairly significantly. With a one year deal, there's very very low risk involved, but I'm not an NHL gm and in Kenneth, I still trust.


I'm willing to accept that the defense will not be as good as it was last year, but only if the Wings improve in other areas.

I DO think that our goaltending situation is the best it has been in years, especially if Jimmy stays healthy.

And I'm in the minority that actually believes our forward group improved somewhat (Sammy>Hudler, Tootoo>Holmstrom), but so far not enough to negate the deficits on defense, which is why we need that an impact scorer like Semin (or Doan, or both ;)).
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Posted 17 July 2012 - 12:45 PM

I jut don't know what Kenny is waiting for....Doan? Semin? He is in on the Nash trade talk, waiting for that? I wish we as fans knew more! I still think this team needs that top scorer not named Franzine. Semin or Nash would be that sniper. Ryan would too, Doan would be a 20-30 goal grinding forward. Semin would definitely top 40 with Datsyuk as would Nash (or possibly 50)

If somehow Kenny could trade for Nash AND sign Semin, we're in! (Ilke Doan and Ryan as well, or hell any combo! I just hate the wait!) Each day that goes by seems like Holland isn't going to do anything else....ugh!

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Posted 17 July 2012 - 01:15 PM

With the current state of the CBA, I'd be surprised to see anybody sign right now. Are the owners going to seriously push for this new cap? If so, the Wings are barely over it and wouldn't want it to go any higher.

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Posted 17 July 2012 - 01:52 PM

Doan and Nash would be awesome. Better than any combination with Semin.

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Posted 17 July 2012 - 03:49 PM

Doan and Nash would be awesome. Better than any combination with Semin.

Agreed.

However it'll be a cold day in hell before we see Nash wearing a Red Wings jersey...No way will Holland want to give up any of his "pets" to land a guy like Nash.

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Posted 17 July 2012 - 03:53 PM

Right now I am thinking Kenny trades Nyquist for Bouwmeester. Sign Semin. We would look much better than we do now IMO...


CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTER
My Custom Lineup
FORWARDS
Valtteri Filppula ($3.000m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Alexander Semin ($4.500m)
Mikael Samuelsson ($3.000m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Johan Franzen ($3.955m)
Danny Cleary ($2.800m) / Darren Helm ($2.125m) / Todd Bertuzzi ($2.075m)
Patrick Eaves ($1.200m) / Justin Abdelkader ($1.800m) / Jordin Tootoo ($1.900m)
Drew Miller ($0.838m) / Damien Brunner ($1.350m)
DEFENSEMEN
Jay Bouwmeester ($6.680m) / Ian White ($2.875m)
Niklas Kronwall ($4.750m) / Jonathan Ericsson ($3.250m)
Brendan Smith ($0.875m) / Kyle Quincey ($3.250m)
Jakub Kindl ($0.883m)
GOALTENDERS
Jimmy Howard ($2.250m)
Jonas Gustavsson ($1.500m)
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(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $70,200,000; CAP PAYROLL: $67,638,712; BONUSES: $425,000
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $2,561,288

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Posted 17 July 2012 - 04:17 PM

KHL or Pens.
Can´t believe he will sign with us, though i´d like to see him play on a line with Dats!

Pens will offer him the money. They´ve tried it Parise too!

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Posted 17 July 2012 - 04:46 PM

It would be nice if he signed here... The man can put up points under the right environment... Wings should take a chance...
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