up2here 41 Report post Posted November 22, 2012 (edited) So I attended the Halifax Mooseheads game vs. Baie Comeau last night and it was yet another entertaining game of junior hockey. Marty Frk really stood out and even garnered First Star honors. Frk has been really playing well of late and his shot is, by all accounts, already of elite NHL level. What has really impressed me though is the improvement in his skating from last year to now. I think were looking at a potential 40 goal scorer in the NHL if they ever play again. Edited November 22, 2012 by UP2HERE 1 kipwinger reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,524 Report post Posted November 22, 2012 I've read that the kid has a cannon of a shot. How accurate is it? I love players that shoot hard, but shooting hard AND accurate is the real key in the NHL. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
up2here 41 Report post Posted November 22, 2012 (edited) I've read that the kid has a cannon of a shot. How accurate is it? I love players that shoot hard, but shooting hard AND accurate is the real key in the NHL. He loves to shoot and he knows that he has a great one. His accuracy is not something that seems overly concerning from what I've seen. Sure he misses the net sometimes but he also has shown the ability to pick the top corners. He also played the point on the power play last night and is one of the big reasons Halifax's power play is so devastating right now. Edited November 22, 2012 by UP2HERE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rick zombo 3,739 Report post Posted November 22, 2012 And he's been playing on the second line most of the year as a lot of prime minutes are going to MacKinnon and Drouin. So basically he's learning to be a team player, and putting up great numbers as a secondary scorer. But Nestrasil had similar numbers in Jr playing in the Q, and he seems to be going down the path of "bust". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
up2here 41 Report post Posted November 22, 2012 (edited) And he's been playing on the second line most of the year as a lot of prime minutes are going to MacKinnon and Drouin. So basically he's learning to be a team player, and putting up great numbers as a secondary scorer. But Nestrasil had similar numbers in Jr playing in the Q, and he seems to be going down the path of "bust". Scouting isnt an exact science for sure and clearly none of us are professionals but Nestrasil never seemed to have to raw talent taht Frk seems to have. Time will tell I guess. Edited November 22, 2012 by UP2HERE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kronstantinov Report post Posted November 22, 2012 And he's been playing on the second line most of the year as a lot of prime minutes are going to MacKinnon and Drouin. So basically he's learning to be a team player, and putting up great numbers as a secondary scorer. But Nestrasil had similar numbers in Jr playing in the Q, and he seems to be going down the path of "bust". Frk is on a pace to score more than Nestrasil was playing jr. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rick zombo 3,739 Report post Posted November 22, 2012 (edited) Frk is on a pace to score more than Nestrasil was playing jr. I don't usually nerd out about stats, but here's the complete Q stats for both players (as of Frk's stats last week): Frk 10/11 - 62GP-22G-22A-50PTS 11/12 - 34GP-16G-13A - 29PTS 12/13 - 20GP-9G-18A-27PTS PPG AVG = 0.914 http://www.redwingsc...cts/martin-frk/ Nestrasil 08/09 - 66GP-22G-35A-57PTS 09/10 - 50GP-16G-35A-51PTS 10/11 - 58GP-19G-51A-70PTS PPG AVG = 1.02 http://www.redwingsc...drej-nestrasil/ Frk is a goal scorer, Nestrasil was a play maker, but their point totals are almost identical. So, I'm not sure where your numbers are coming from. Edit to add: I'm not saying Frk won't be am elite NHL sniper, but I'm using Nestrasil as an example of how Jr numbers don't always translate into NHL or even AHL success. Edited November 22, 2012 by rick zombo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Axe Report post Posted November 22, 2012 I don't usually nerd out about stats, but here's the complete Q stats for both players (as of Frk's stats last week): Frk 10/11 - 62GP-22G-22A-50PTS 11/12 - 34GP-16G-13A - 29PTS 12/13 - 20GP-9G-18A-27PTS PPG AVG = 0.914 http://www.redwingsc...cts/martin-frk/ Nestrasil 08/09 - 66GP-22G-35A-57PTS 09/10 - 50GP-16G-35A-51PTS 10/11 - 58GP-19G-51A-70PTS PPG AVG = 1.02 http://www.redwingsc...drej-nestrasil/ Frk is a goal scorer, Nestrasil was a play maker, but their point totals are almost identical. So, I'm not sure where your numbers are coming from. Edit to add: I'm not saying Frk won't be am elite NHL sniper, but I'm using Nestrasil as an example of how Jr numbers don't always translate into NHL or even AHL success. Lemieux ripped it up in the QMJHL and that translated right into NHL production. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rick zombo 3,739 Report post Posted November 22, 2012 Lemieux ripped it up in the QMJHL and that translated right into NHL production. Hahahahah. Are you serious? Way to cherry-pick. Lemieux destroyed the Q. As did Crosby. What’s your point? I was comparing two Red Wing 2nd and 3rd round picks in the modern era that put up similar numbers, if only to say that Frk could turn out to be like Nestrasil - averaging less than a point per game in Toledo. Again, I like Frk. I’m going out of my way to see him play soon. And it’s nice to get excited about our draft picks. But I was relatively excited about Nestrasil too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Axe Report post Posted November 22, 2012 (edited) Hahahahah. Are you serious? Way to cherry-pick. Lemieux destroyed the Q. As did Crosby. What’s your point? I was comparing two Red Wing 2nd and 3rd round picks in the modern era that put up similar numbers, if only to say that Frk could turn out to be like Nestrasil - averaging less than a point per game in Toledo. Again, I like Frk. I’m going out of my way to see him play soon. And it’s nice to get excited about our draft picks. But I was relatively excited about Nestrasil too. Lafleur too. That guy was sick in the Q. Edited November 22, 2012 by The Axe Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Echolalia 2,961 Report post Posted November 22, 2012 (edited) Maltby was a 50 goal scorer in juniors! Edit: am I doing this right? Edited November 22, 2012 by Echolalia 3 ogreslayer, Z Winged Dangler and Rick D reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jaymister 71 Report post Posted November 23, 2012 Got to see him play on sportsnet a little while ago. He's got a cannon and scored on the PP from the point. He needs to work harder in the corners howerver. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
number9 3,297 Report post Posted November 23, 2012 Lafleur too. That guy was sick in the Q. LaFontaine too. That guy was sick in the Q. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kronstantinov Report post Posted November 23, 2012 I don't usually nerd out about stats, but here's the complete Q stats for both players (as of Frk's stats last week): Frk 10/11 - 62GP-22G-22A-50PTS 11/12 - 34GP-16G-13A - 29PTS 12/13 - 20GP-9G-18A-27PTS PPG AVG = 0.914 http://www.redwingsc...cts/martin-frk/ Nestrasil 08/09 - 66GP-22G-35A-57PTS 09/10 - 50GP-16G-35A-51PTS 10/11 - 58GP-19G-51A-70PTS PPG AVG = 1.02 http://www.redwingsc...drej-nestrasil/ Frk is a goal scorer, Nestrasil was a play maker, but their point totals are almost identical. So, I'm not sure where your numbers are coming from. Edit to add: I'm not saying Frk won't be am elite NHL sniper, but I'm using Nestrasil as an example of how Jr numbers don't always translate into NHL or even AHL success. The year he was drafted (09-10), Nestrasil scored at 1.02 PPG. Frk is scoring at a 1.35 PPG clip. Frk is actally 8 months younger than Nestrasil was that year. It doesn't sound like a lot but at that age it usually is. Frk began his QMJHL career out almost 2 years younger. Frk also has some crash and bang to his game whereas Nestrasil never did LaFontaine too. That guy was sick in the Q. He was sick in the NHL which should be changed to the NHL currently the N stands for No instead of National 1 number9 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
up2here 41 Report post Posted November 23, 2012 Mario Lemiuex in his final season with Laval: 70 GP, 133 Goals, 149 Assists, 282 points. A different era obviously but my brain has trouble even comprehending those stats. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kronstantinov Report post Posted November 23, 2012 Mario Lemiuex in his final season with Laval: 70 GP, 133 Goals, 149 Assists, 282 points. A different era obviously but my brain has trouble even comprehending those stats. Mind boggling. Over 4 points a game. The goalie equipment was much smaller then. Still mind boggling Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
up2here 41 Report post Posted November 23, 2012 Hahahahah. Are you serious? Way to cherry-pick. Lemieux destroyed the Q. As did Crosby. What’s your point? I was comparing two Red Wing 2nd and 3rd round picks in the modern era that put up similar numbers, if only to say that Frk could turn out to be like Nestrasil - averaging less than a point per game in Toledo. Again, I like Frk. I’m going out of my way to see him play soon. And it’s nice to get excited about our draft picks. But I was relatively excited about Nestrasil too. I'm actually glad you brough Nestrasil up as I had forgotten about him. Going to keep my eye on him again. As for Frk I'll be attending tonight's Mooseheads game as well. We'll see if he can follow up his effort from the other night. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rick zombo 3,739 Report post Posted November 23, 2012 (edited) I'm actually glad you brough Nestrasil up as I had forgotten about him. Going to keep my eye on him again. As for Frk I'll be attending tonight's Mooseheads game as well. We'll see if he can follow up his effort from the other night. Sweet. Keep us posted. I'm assuming you live in Halifax? I'm currently posted up in Charlottetown. Edited November 23, 2012 by rick zombo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
up2here 41 Report post Posted November 23, 2012 Sweet. Keep us posted. I'm assuming you live in Halifax? I'm currently posted up in Charlottetown. Yes, good ole Halifax. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z Winged Dangler 2,082 Report post Posted November 23, 2012 Sweet. Keep us posted. I'm assuming you live in Halifax? I'm currently posted up in Charlottetown. You military? I gotta drive almost 2 hours up to Brandon to see WHL these days or keep my eyes open for CHL games on Shaw's cable channel. Any teams near Charlettown? Frk looks like he's gonna be a hell of a player. Kinda reminds me a little of Patrick Sharp from what i've seen. Should be at the WJC for sure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rick zombo 3,739 Report post Posted November 23, 2012 You military? I gotta drive almost 2 hours up to Brandon to see WHL these days or keep my eyes open for CHL games on Shaw's cable channel. Any teams near Charlettown? Frk looks like he's gonna be a hell of a player. Kinda reminds me a little of Patrick Sharp from what i've seen. Should be at the WJC for sure. Not military no. "Posted" was probably a poor way for me to put that. But yeah, we have the Prince Edward Island Rocket - part of the Q. Soon to become the PEI Islanders Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Axe Report post Posted November 23, 2012 LaFontaine too. That guy was sick in the Q. Not quite as sick, though Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
number9 3,297 Report post Posted November 23, 2012 Not quite as sick, though Lefebvre not quite as sick, though either Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Axe Report post Posted November 24, 2012 Lefebvre not quite as sick, though either Lemieux was the sickest Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GSBrooks13 204 Report post Posted November 24, 2012 Not military no. "Posted" was probably a poor way for me to put that. But yeah, we have the Prince Edward Island Rocket - part of the Q. Soon to become the PEI Islanders That name change still bugs me, the Prince Edward Island Islanders... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites