MasterPavel 115 Report post Posted May 12, 2013 And he went to Ohio State. Screw that whiney ass diving *****. This, Edler or Kassian but other than that nothing else interests me. Sign Stalberg and one of Horton/Clarkson and call it an off-season... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedWingsRox 614 Report post Posted May 12, 2013 I'm with the 'No to Kesler' camp. He is fragile, erratic, arrogant, and a diver. He apparently has a 'beast' mode but it only came out in game 2 ... was pretty silent in game 3 and 4. No thanks. 1 T.Low reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CrimsonFlame 424 Report post Posted May 12, 2013 No thanks on Kesler or the Sedins. Especially Kesler. I never liked him. Like everyone else says though, Kassain would be a nice addition to have but idk what we'd have to offer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z Winged Dangler 2,082 Report post Posted May 12, 2013 Alex Edler would top my list assuming the ginger twins are untouchable. Ballard isn't half bad.. considering how much he sacrifices his body to block shots and plays a physical game. Really would like to see a full season out of our rooks first though before bringing in a ton of D. Edler would be good, but we'd need to send someone back cause of our logjam. Isn't Backman a lot like Edler though? I'd love Kassian, or Raymond to play with Helm and Tootoo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Hockeymom1960 5,107 Report post Posted May 12, 2013 Disturbing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,130 Report post Posted May 12, 2013 Well, I have beaten this drum for a long time now. Franzen for Burrows... 1. Franzen - He would re-ignite his career by playing with his countrymen The Sedins. Sammy went there and scored 35 goals playing with them, Franzen quite possibly could top 40 goals on that line. Plus with Franzen's playoff history, this could also intrigue Vancouver into taking on that "Serious Contract." Franzen will NEVER hit 40 goals here, he may never see 30 again here...this is a no-brainer for Vancouver. 2. Burrows - Its already been said that he is a feisty forward that works hard for the puck and has been very comparable to Franzen in the regular season. The hope would be that his feistiness would be a bigger asset to this team than Franzen. We are definitely in need of feistier forwards that fight for their space on the ice, and its well documented that Franzen lacks that most nights on this team. Burrows on the top line with Hank and Pav would be something that our team could use and yes, he could top 30 goals again possibly 40 here. His cap is a bit more than Franzen's but with other moves Holland should make, it would make it easier to take. This trade is a win-win for both teams. It may not happen one for one, but Holland would be stupid to not make this deal if it presented itself, as would Vancouver. I would think that The Sedin's, Kesler & Edler are the untouchables there. Not that I would want any of them BTW... Edler would be good, but we'd need to send someone back cause of our logjam. Isn't Backman a lot like Edler though? I'd love Kassian, or Raymond to play with Helm and Tootoo. While those are two good ideas, our needs are to find top 6 talent to take care of our obvious scoring problems up there. I think that our bottom 6 is in very good shape for years to come... As is our D. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Number19 159 Report post Posted May 12, 2013 Edler only, if we can get him without trading any top pieces (Danny D, Nyquist, Tatar, etc) so unlikely. I don't know enough about Kassian to feel one way or another. Kesler and Burrows are Getzlaf and Perry-lite, no thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z Winged Dangler 2,082 Report post Posted May 12, 2013 (edited) kesler looks a shadow of himself lately. The only way you can identify Kesler's shadow, is that it dives too. Well, I have beaten this drum for a long time now. Franzen for Burrows... 1. Franzen - He would re-ignite his career by playing with his countrymen The Sedins. Sammy went there and scored 35 goals playing with them, Franzen quite possibly could top 40 goals on that line. Plus with Franzen's playoff history, this could also intrigue Vancouver into taking on that "Serious Contract." Franzen will NEVER hit 40 goals here, he may never see 30 again here...this is a no-brainer for Vancouver. 2. Burrows - Its already been said that he is a feisty forward that works hard for the puck and has been very comparable to Franzen in the regular season. The hope would be that his feistiness would be a bigger asset to this team than Franzen. We are definitely in need of feistier forwards that fight for their space on the ice, and its well documented that Franzen lacks that most nights on this team. Burrows on the top line with Hank and Pav would be something that our team could use and yes, he could top 30 goals again possibly 40 here. His cap is a bit more than Franzen's but with other moves Holland should make, it would make it easier to take. This trade is a win-win for both teams. It may not happen one for one, but Holland would be stupid to not make this deal if it presented itself, as would Vancouver. I would think that The Sedin's, Kesler & Edler are the untouchables there. Not that I would want any of them BTW... While those are two good ideas, our needs are to find top 6 talent to take care of our obvious scoring problems up there. I think that our bottom 6 is in very good shape for years to come... As is our D. Agreed, so we don't require any Cansucks players. I'd rather wait it out to try and get Clarkson or Ryder. I almost spit my drink on my laptop. You know when teams have something in the tunnel for inspiration that they all touch on the way out for good luck.....? I guess that is the Canucks good luck charm. Too bad it led to a sweep on the bad end. Edited May 12, 2013 by Z Winged Dangler Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PuckY18 13 Report post Posted May 12, 2013 (edited) Gillis and the nuck's are hoping Kassian is going to be a force in a few years- ideally a top six forward, and they tried him a couple times this year with the Sedins. It was the year after their cup run when MG decided he needed his own version of Milan Lucic. Edited May 12, 2013 by PuckY18 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeymom1960 5,107 Report post Posted May 12, 2013 The only way you can identify Kesler's shadow, is that it dives too. Agreed, so we don't require any Cansucks players. I'd rather wait it out to try and get Clarkson or Ryder. I almost spit my drink on my laptop. You know when teams have something in the tunnel for inspiration that they all touch on the way out for good luck.....? I guess that is the Canucks good luck charm. Too bad it led to a sweep on the bad end. OMG this is hilarious. I didn't even think about that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted May 12, 2013 Kassian please. Would give us an added dimension on the 4th line. And he's only 22. Canucks fans appear to consider him untouchable in much the same way that we consider Helm to be so. Wouldn't be a trade but Roy would be nice. He's small which is a major downside, but he's also a pure sniper He has scored more than 30 goals once in his career, and that was long ago. He's not a pure sniper. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ben_usmc 253 Report post Posted May 12, 2013 I don't get all the kesler love. It seems like he makes an ass of himself every time we play the 'nucks. I remember him saying something to the tune of kronwall should have to fight if he's going to be throwing big hits. Keep in mind, he even said that the hit wasn't dirty, but kronwall should answer for it anyway. Plus, kesler said he was an avalanche fan, living in livonia. We all remember those kids from school, they were little d-bags. Yeah Kesler has always come off as a ****** on the ice and not someone I hope the Wings go after. Just water cooler talk but I've heard he was a dick IRL as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BuckeyeWingsfan80 209 Report post Posted May 12, 2013 Kassian, Bert AND tootoo? Damn If Bert is on this roster next year Holland seriously needs to go. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T.Low 1,011 Report post Posted May 12, 2013 (edited) I don't get all the kesler love. It seems like he makes an ass of himself every time we play the 'nucks. I remember him saying something to the tune of kronwall should have to fight if he's going to be throwing big hits. Keep in mind, he even said that the hit wasn't dirty, but kronwall should answer for it anyway. Plus, kesler said he was an avalanche fan, living in livonia. We all remember those kids from school, they were little d-bags. Thank You, Thank You, Thank You. That team has no character, including him. He was cleared by the doctors to play along time ago but seemed to save himself for the playoffs and everyone was wondering why he wasn't playing. When asked about it, he'd always give bulls***, condescending replies that made no sense. The Vancouver media is ready to let Edler go. I do not want him as a Wing. He is a puck moving Dman that doesn't seem too concerned about exactly which team on the ice he is moving the puck to. Very inconsistant, hasn't seemed to improve over the last few years. Bieksa is a strong physical presence that is not smart enough to know what to do with himself. He has a bad attitude, blames everyone except the man in the mirror. No thank you. Kassian has potential...but we'd better get him before they ruin him. I think we all realize the Sedins have no place on this team for many reasons, including the camparison of (Dats Vs Perry) and (Sedin Vs Marchand--which is exactly the moment when the Canucks "Jumped the Shark"--pathetic--we want a leader, not a hockey glove eater) Edited May 12, 2013 by T.Low Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Playmaker Report post Posted May 12, 2013 The cleaning house thing is always a fan reaction to a poor season, but rare on the management side. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sabaton617 28 Report post Posted May 12, 2013 The cleaning house thing is always a fan reaction to a poor season, but rare on the management side. I did hear someone from Canucks management say they need to change their team and make it more physical. He said the NHL game has become more physical and the Canucks need to likewise change. I believe he said this on the NHL Network after the Canucks were eliminated. Your guess as good as mine if anything will result from these comments or what it means for the Wings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hooon 1,089 Report post Posted May 12, 2013 If were trading Dats we better be getting AT LEAST two Sedins in return. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bring Back The Bruise Bros 1,029 Report post Posted May 14, 2013 I'd be down with acquiring Kassian. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ally 448 Report post Posted May 14, 2013 (edited) The idea of trading Datsyuk for any of those plugs is just absolute nonsense. Stop it, seriously. Kassian or Edler...even Bieksa wouldn't be bad to have but the asking price for any of them would be absurd and I just don't want them bad enough that I'd want to give anyone good up for them. Burrows bites, we don't have room for the Sedins and their declining production, and the thought of Kesler diving around the ice in a Wings jersey makes me feel physically ill. Edited May 14, 2013 by Ally 1 Z Winged Dangler reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DeGraa55 Report post Posted May 14, 2013 We need toughness as well. How would we get that from them? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z Winged Dangler 2,082 Report post Posted May 14, 2013 The idea of trading Datsyuk for any of those plugs is just absolute nonsense. Stop it, seriously. Kaddish or Edler...even Bieksa wouldn't be bad to have but the asking price for any of them would be absurd and I just don't want them bad enough that I'd want to give anyone good up for them. Burrows bites, we don't have room for the Sedins and their declining production, and the thought of Kesler diving around the ice in a Wings jersey makes me feel physically ill. Apparently I'm only allowed to like this post once.... 1 Ally reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T.Low 1,011 Report post Posted May 22, 2013 On HFBoards/Canucks, one poster responded to today's Allain Vineualt (sp?) firing by stating, "I'm so happy I could riot". Classic. 1 canadian wings fan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
St. Michael (the Red Wing) 422 Report post Posted May 22, 2013 Alain Vigneault is out. I'm not surprised. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest mjtm77 Report post Posted May 22, 2013 that's too bad. he was a good coach but I am not surprised at all Share this post Link to post Share on other sites