gdt 11/21 GDT: Hurricanes 3 at Red Wings 4

[Cloune 270]

Pasha and Hank

[wingfan1991 221]

Datsyuk what else can you say, the greatest there is.

[Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204]

Datsyuk is a sick man, that was all world.

[DatsyukToZetterberg 128]

Good end to an otherwise terribad second period.

[Yeti 244]

nice kill

[b.shanafan14 733]

Great kill from Pavel. Must help not having Cleary tethered to you.

[canadian wings fan 305]

Pavel Datsyuk you absolute hero!!!

[greenrebellion 415]

I just don't understand how Babs doesn't see what we all see. Cleary destroys every line he's on. Put him on the fourth and give him 2 shifts a period.

[Euro_Twins 4,485]

Why in God's green earth does Quincey have over 16 minutes toi

[Guest Crymson]

I really despise Dan Cleary, and Babcock's inexplicable devotion to him is beginning to seriously perturb me. I understand that Quincey must play, as there are no other defensemen available. But it was clearly unnecessary for Cleary to be on this team to begin with, let alone playing in every game, let alone playing on the first line. It is a !@#$ing travesty. Put ANY FORWARD but Cleary there. LITERALLY ANY OF THEM. Every single one forward on this team would do better than him. This is not an exaggeration, and it makes the issue infuriating.

Edited November 22, 2013 by Crymson

[DatsyukToZetterberg 128]

We have bad goaltending. Let's just face it. If not for Gustavsson, this would still be 2-1. He couldn't even make a save on a borderline 5-6 defenseman not even known for offense.

[datterberg1340 626]

Can someone please go back and find out how many games were decided by Quincey and Cleary screwing up? Not just their +/-, but let's say if we lost by one goal and Cleary or Quincey were -1. I bet most of our games are lost by these clowns.

maybe the two of them have a season-long bet to see who can screw up the most

[pucktividi 472]

We should keep Datsyuk out of training process so he could be used on all 4 lines and as a 7th D-man

Edited November 22, 2013 by pucktividi

[canadian wings fan 305]

I sincerely believe Pavel Datsyuk just earned the Selke trophy on that 1 shift alone. Go Pavs you're the best

[Ekmanc 586]

We have bad goaltending. Let's just face it. If not for Gustavsson, this would still be 2-1. He couldn't even make a save on a borderline 5-6 defenseman not even known for offense.

Don't be ridiculous it went off a stick and it was a shot from a great spot to begin with, not many goalies in the league would've got that one.

[Guest Crymson]

What's really, really bizarre is that despite being on the 1st line, Cleary is last overall in ice time on the team (Lashoff aside). Bertuzzi, who usually averages ~15 minutes, is on pace for less than 13. Cleary's ineptitude makes that line worthless. Is Babcock hypnotized?

Will a correspondent please think during a press conference to ask Babcock why Cleary, despite obviously being the single worst forward on the team, is given chance after chance?

[b.shanafan14 733]

I really despise Dan Cleary, and Babcock's inexplicable devotion to him is beginning to seriously perturb me. I understand that Quincey must play, as there are no other defensemen available. But it was clearly unnecessary for Cleary to be on this team to begin with, let alone playing in every game, let alone playing on the first line. It is a !@#$ing travesty. Put ANY FORWARD but Cleary there. LITERALLY ANY OF THEM. Every single one forward on this team would do better than him. This is not an exaggeration, and it makes the issue infuriating.

Accurate statement is accurate... It makes me feel insane.

[CaliforniaWingsFan 464]

Wow, Nyquist scoring so fast was definitely a high point in the season so far. Forgive me for actually being excited and forgetting that the Wings blow every single lead they have ever had. Still not giving up hope that we can pull this out against one of the worst teams in the league. LGRW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hopefully that flu bug finds Cleary tonight! (Not hoping for him to get hurt just that he decides to retire and never ruin this lineup again.)

[datterberg1340 626]

I really despise Dan Cleary, and Babcock's inexplicable devotion to him is beginning to seriously perturb me. I understand that Quincey must play, as there are no other defensemen available. But it was clearly unnecessary for Cleary to be on this team to begin with, let alone playing in every game, let alone playing on the first line. It is a !@#$ing travesty. Put ANY FORWARD but Cleary there. LITERALLY ANY OF THEM. Every single one forward on this team would do better than him. This is not an exaggeration, and it makes the issue infuriating.

I hate to think that Holland and Babs haven't done anything about the Cleary problem because they want to protect their own pride and egos against the mistake that was re-signing him, but at this point, what other explanation is there?

[RedWang 422]

I'm gonna go out on a limb here, but i think if all of LGW pitches in $44 we can give Bertuzzi enough money to end Dan Cleary's career....i mean cmon he's done it for less!

[rick zombo 3,739]

Man. I’d be soooooooo willing to abort this season for the following:

1. A 1st round pick as high as 14

2. The end of Cleary and Quincey on this team

3. A renewed sense of accountability within this organization,from the Greek Mafia all the way down to the coach

[b.shanafan14 733]

Maybe there are subtlies to Cleary's game that are so subtle only a finely seasoned eye like Babcock can pick them up. Like maybe he looks like the worst forward on the team because he makes ALL of his teammates better. Think about it...

[Guest Crymson]

I hate to think that Holland and Babs haven't done anything about the Cleary problem because they want to protect their own pride and egos against the mistake that was re-signing him, but at this point, what other explanation is there?

That's not it. I think that Babcock is just obsessed with getting Cleary going. Perhaps he views Cleary as having been his own personal project; the latter was on the team by Babcock's decision in 2005-2006 and went on to do very well for five seasons afterward. But the past two-plus seasons have made it apparent that Cleary is ---DONE---. He has been in indisputable decline throughout that period, regardless of the surgeries that were supposed to rejuvenate him.

Whatever the case, it has got to end. I fervently hope that he'll be scratched when Weiss and/or Alfredsson return, and I can't see it happening any other way.

My most immediate hope is that he'll start anywhere but on the first line next period. Even Samuelsson would do better.

Edited November 22, 2013 by Crymson

[Ekmanc 586]

Anyone looking forward to shootouts??

[Sgt. Angry 23]

Any chance that we can just forego the usual scoreless 3rd period, and just go to the inevitable overtime? That way we could all get to bed earlier. If we do have to play the 3rd, can we just let Pav & Z play all 20 minutes?