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#21 13dangledangle

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Posted 02 July 2014 - 09:02 AM

Why is everyone saying Datsyuk and Zetterberg will leave? ZETTERBERG will NEVER ask for a trade, that is straight up crazy talk. Then Datysuk on the other hand has two years left, he's done after this contract anyway
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#22 Richdg

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Posted 02 July 2014 - 09:12 AM

Why is everyone saying Datsyuk and Zetterberg will leave? ZETTERBERG will NEVER ask for a trade, that is straight up crazy talk. Then Datysuk on the other hand has two years left, he's done after this contract anyway

I doubt either would ask for a trade. retire is what will happen, and with the lack of positive moves to date that day may end up closer than anyone wants. why would either want to keep pushing their aging bodies to play for a team not going anywhere? At some point in time there is no point in doing so. The cost becomes to great.



#23 roboturner

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Posted 02 July 2014 - 02:52 PM

I can see Zeterberg retire after 4 more seasons. His salary drops off from 7 million to 3.5 after 4 seasons and down to 1 million after that. He'll be 38 by then with a bad back.

 

Dats is signed for three more seasons. He'd be 39 going into a new contract.

 

So we have two, maybe three seasons (including next season) to make a run with these guys. Or to convince them that it's worth sticking around on the Wings to compete for a cup here rather than somewhere else.


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#24 number9

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Posted 04 July 2014 - 08:45 PM

The real question is: Would Dats and Z ever protest? No. They aren't short sighted hot heads like most of LGW

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Posted 04 July 2014 - 08:48 PM

The real question is: Would Dats and Z ever protest? No. They aren't short sighted hot heads like most of LGW


Try watching Hank's post game after being eliminated by the Bruins and tell me that's not a player on the verge of wanting out.

Edited by ShanahanMan, 04 July 2014 - 08:48 PM.



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#26 number9

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Posted 04 July 2014 - 08:53 PM

Try watching Hank's post game after being eliminated by the Bruins and tell me that's not a player on the verge of wanting out.


I'll save this post and bring it up for u 3 or 4 years from now when he retires as a wing captain with his jersey in the banners a few years later.

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Posted 04 July 2014 - 09:24 PM

Interesting because I was fearful of the same thing. There is nothing that can force Datsyuk to return to play. Put yourself in his shoes. he is wealthy, his wife and kids live in Russia, he could easily replace the RW's salary by staying there and playing. He clearly was unhappy with the end of the year/direction of the team/etc... he is also 35 and getting beat up. He voiced his displeasure which is COMPLETELY out of charactor for him. If we still are the same team come August first, it would be really hard to get on a plan and come back.

I have mentioned this before. If you wan to force Babcok, Z, and Datsyuk out, could you write a better script to do it? Why would anyone of those 3 want to return/stay long term? Thios is very thin ice Holland is skating on and we the fans could be the ones to pay for his "liking our team".

His ex-wife and oldest daughter live in Russia.  His new wife and newborn daughter live here.  Zetterberg said in the HBO special that he and his wife plan to make the Detroit their home after he retires.  

 

Alexei Kovalev just retired from a Swiss B League.  These guys aren't like us.  They play because they love the game on a completely different level.  I expect them both to play until their bodies are no longer able and continue to be the ultimate professionals they always have been.



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Posted 04 July 2014 - 09:29 PM

His ex-wife and oldest daughter live in Russia.  His new wife and newborn daughter live here.  Zetterberg said in the HBO special that he and his wife plan to make the Detroit their home after he retires.  
 
Alexei Kovalev just retired from a Swiss B League.  These guys aren't like us.  They play because they love the game on a completely different level.  I expect them both to play until their bodies are no longer able and continue to be the ultimate professionals they always have been.


They were taught by Yzerman and Lidstrom and will retire like Yzerman and Lidstrom. Anyone who seriously suspects otherwise is reaching for the wings to tank

#29 roboturner

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Posted 05 July 2014 - 05:29 PM

Nobody thought that Alfie would want to leave the Sens. Nobody thought that Gretzky would waive his no trade clause and leave Edmonton.

 

I'm not saying it would happen here, but it's not out of the realm of possibility.


This might be getting a little heated. Just know I don't hate any of you guys.

 

That doesn't mean that I respect ideas & opinions. Some ideas & opinions are ridiculous.

 

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#30 number9

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Posted 05 July 2014 - 05:44 PM

Nobody thought that Alfie would want to leave the Sens. Nobody thought that Gretzky would waive his no trade clause and leave Edmonton.
 
I'm not saying it would happen here, but it's not out of the realm of possibility.


The Sens are a mess and never got Alfie a cup. Gretzky never wanted to leave, but had to be dealt for financial reasons that Illitch doesn't have. It's not impossible, but it's a stretch.

#31 gcom007

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Posted 05 July 2014 - 06:21 PM

The Sens are a mess and never got Alfie a cup. Gretzky never wanted to leave, but had to be dealt for financial reasons that Illitch doesn't have. It's not impossible, but it's a stretch.

 

I think the Cup is the clear breaking point with certain guys. Gretzky is unique, but career team guys are going to be a lot more unlikely to leave if they've already gotten their Cup. Even if Dats and Z didn't have Cups, it's still really hard to even call it a stretch though, especially with Dats and Z. Dats is a lot more shy than I think people realize which would likely make it harder for him to decide to go to another city and NHL team late in his career, and I think Z is pretty damn content in Detroit. 

 

Bottom line, these guys are too classy to actually "protest" as was originally suggested, and the only thing players like Dats and Z could ever do that comes close is ask for a trade, and it's just next to impossible to imagine.

 

Things may be bad, but like I said earlier, if it gets bad to the point that one of them is seriously trying to get out early, that should be an indicator that things are way, way, way more f***ed up than any of us even realize, and we should not be longing for that day. It's bad enough now...


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Posted 05 July 2014 - 07:25 PM

Try watching Hank's post game after being eliminated by the Bruins and tell me that's not a player on the verge of wanting out.


I did and his interview after. He was upset after losing to Boston in his first game back. He didn't want to talk to anyone. He was much more optimistic about the teams future in the next interview.

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Posted 05 July 2014 - 11:08 PM

Thank u gmcom and ET. I'm a wings fan bc wings don't do the stuff shanyman robo and play r suggesting. U all almost seem excited for them to leave. Shameful.





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